2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

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    2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    The GM order guide shows a 2018 Buick LaCrosse with what appears to be an upgrade of the old LaCrosse hybrid system. It it very different from the current GM hybrid setups (50kW+) found in the Volt and Malibu. Also for the first time, it will be available in three model styles, Preferred, Essence and Premium.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    In a piece here at GMI, we recently read about GM's efforts to build retail sales of the LaCrosse at the expense of fleet sales. This new option offering may be an indication that a reversal of that effort is planned with the assumably, less expensive, and higher MPG hybrid model.

    However, if you are indeed shopping for a hybrid model, the current Malibu hybrid would seem to be a much better buy. Why is Buick doing this?



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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    Quote Originally Posted by Perian View Post
    In a piece here at GMI, we recently read about GM's efforts to build retail sales of the LaCrosse at the expense of fleet sales. This new option offering may be an indication that a reversal of that effort is planned with the assumably, less expensive, and higher MPG hybrid model.

    However, if you are indeed shopping for a hybrid model, the current Malibu hybrid would seem to be a much better buy. Why is Buick doing this?



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    Considering the Lacrosse starts at 32k, didn't think this is a retail cost cutting move. Smells like a move for fuel economy and CAFE. It's hard to say where this will fit because the Chinese hybrid is only a 1.5KWh battery.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    Quote Originally Posted by Perian View Post
    In a piece here at GMI, we recently read about GM's efforts to build retail sales of the LaCrosse at the expense of fleet sales. This new option offering may be an indication that a reversal of that effort is planned with the assumably, less expensive, and higher MPG hybrid model.

    However, if you are indeed shopping for a hybrid model, the current Malibu hybrid would seem to be a much better buy. Why is Buick doing this?



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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    I am a fan of the new Lacrosse so it is unfortunate that it isn't selling too well. I will need to take one for a test drive to see if there is something else off.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

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    Considering the Lacrosse starts at 32k, didn't think this is a retail cost cutting move. Smells like a move for fuel economy and CAFE. It's hard to say where this will fit because the Chinese hybrid is only a 1.5KWh battery.
    Sounds interesting.

    The hybrid Accord is about the same as the Chinese hybrid. My guess is this is just a straight up plug-in; system sounds similar to what's in the CT6.

    20kW battery vs 18.4kW mated to 2.5L vs 2.0T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    Sounds interesting.

    The hybrid Accord is about the same as the Chinese hybrid. My guess is this is just a straight up plug-in; system sounds similar to what's in the CT6.

    20kW battery vs 18.4kW mated to 2.5L vs 2.0T.
    I'm a bit disappointed that it's not offered with AWD. AWD would make it pretty fun. 340 days of supply is not good. I think it would help if Buick actually advertised the car.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    Quote Originally Posted by wallus13 View Post
    I am a fan of the new Lacrosse so it is unfortunate that it isn't selling too well. I will need to take one for a test drive to see if there is something else off.
    Have already done some light legwork with this..... need to do more though. Anyway, so far, seems about 80 % or so of the Sales Volume decline is / was basically unavoidable.

    The other eh, 20 % or so is 'explainable' via the changes in where they are tryin' to take the Car.

    Which is not to say that 20 % is fully excusable etc...... far from it in fact.

    However.... the Production schedules and increases just previous are quite another thing to consider and try to understand.

    As many others have already said CAFE considerations and related are in it all somewhere but clearly, that ain't the only thing.

    Because it is not what you build per se..... it's what you sell or better said, Register.


    What the Market is actually doing has clearly 'upset' all CAFE / Fleet forecasts for all, which as usual means more swing with it and with less margin to begin with ( essentially ) for GM, Ford, and FCAUS.


    I'm kinda' beginning to wonder if Supplier Commitments and or 'Considerations'...... have more than a normal impact with this.

    Also the same for some typical Machiavellian Bankster advice and BS -


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    Anyway..... seems in the usual way..... too damn much 'uninspired' 'Marketing consideration' being given for Chevrolet below, and Cadillac above.


    So quicker fixes include ..... Price...... and then getting something better plus Inventory..... for the Middle Game / Middle Builds.... which are shockingly sparse.

    This extra Hybrid stuff ..... well, can't hurt I suppose.... but that's not the same as sayin' it's gonna' help and in a big way.

    It could - Fusion would be fully under water without the 'electrified' sales volumes but remember what that means in terms of Fleets etc etc.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    I'm a bit disappointed that it's not offered with AWD. AWD would make it pretty fun. 340 days of supply is not good. I think it would help if Buick actually advertised the car.
    Maybe. It's not a bad-looking car, but I've yet to sit in one and see if there's anything there to really dissuade people from it.

    Looking on the bright side, this is 2014-Cadillac levels of ****ed up. They'll probably be giving them away in a few months if you want one.

    Advertising always helps. I seriously don't understand how there's a Giulia commercial at least once every hour on every channel I watch and next to no Cadillac (or Buick) commercials, when Alfa sells triple digits per month IF that.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    I like that they are doing a hybrid for those who want a Buick and hybrid and might buy it, This is probably to help with GM's CAFE numbers like it has already been mentioned.

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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Accardi View Post
    Buick is also sitting on 340-days supply of LaCrosse...
    Good point, let's just skip 2018 and make it a 2019 at this point...............


    Quote Originally Posted by AMERICA 123 View Post
    Have already done some light legwork with this..... need to do more though. Anyway, so far, seems about 80 % or so of the Sales Volume decline is / was basically unavoidable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    Sounds interesting.

    The hybrid Accord is about the same as the Chinese hybrid. My guess is this is just a straight up plug-in; system sounds similar to what's in the CT6.

    20kW battery vs 18.4kW mated to 2.5L vs 2.0T.
    So we're talking a Voltec LaCrosse? I actually like the sound of that. 20 kWh pack should be good for 50 miles.

    That's a pretty significant battery, was the LaCrosse designed for this from the beginning? Or will it eat 1/2 the trunk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by briandors View Post
    So we're talking a Voltec LaCrosse? I actually like the sound of that. 20 kWh pack should be good for 50 miles.

    That's a pretty significant battery, was the LaCrosse designed for this from the beginning? Or will it eat 1/2 the trunk?
    Disregard this post. I was way out in left field. This won't be EREV, this is just a 20 kW motor to assist.
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    Re: 2018 Buick LaCrosse To Offer Light Duty Hybrid Model Option In 3 Trims

    20 kW != 20 kWh

    The previous eAssist system was around 11 kW, so a "20 kW continuous" mild hybrid would be a significant improvement.

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