Price Gouging?

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by New Guy

Also your Toys R Us wii example is flawed since some of those good people who waited in line also sold those 250.00 systems on Ebay for 1000.00... What did the media say about them? Absolutely nothing...

Except maybe wishing they were one of the 10 people that had one to sell on Ebay at a 300% premium.

Ahh where's the humanity? Did you send a letter to Toys R Us to complain that you were not one of the 10 people out of 1000, that waited in line for 24 hours during a wii roll out ,who actually got one for 250.00?

Did the anyone pay a premium for wii at Toys R Us?

Not unless the consumer's time is worth absolutley nothing.

What kind of premium did the consumer, who stood out in front of Toys R Us in 30 degrees, for 8 hours, and did not get a wii pay?

Free market system... It's a bummer for "the special people" who think they shouldn't ever pay a premium for a product that is in demand.

You've totally misinterpreted my posts, and in fact clearly don't even understand them.

The point about the Wii I was making is REGARDLESS of demand price was held constant. MSRP was charged and every customer paid the same price, regardless of where they went who they where or how long they waited (some people didn't even wait!)

Secondly, we DO NOT HAVE a free market system, so saying "That is the free market system" is about as relevant as saying "The sky is blue." The point is that I don't think I am special, quite the opposite I think that regardless of how much something is wanted that it should be the same price from place to place at a particular time, especially when that price is being advertised to the customer.

Frankly you are nothing but a greedy *******, who thinks he is 100% justified in what he does. Karma man, it is a bitch, and one day you are going to be on the receiving end of some **** because of you attitude.

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by New Guy

If you don't want to buy a Pontiac then don't buy it....

I haven't, and I won't, as will hordes of other people. Which means eventually Pontiac fails as a whole.

So when GM can't sell anymore Pontiac's who are they going to blame? Not the customer who didn't buy the product, rather the dealers who are so short sighted that they'd rather make a quick buck sticking it up someones ass than make a effort to maintain and nurture a customer base.

Silly me for thinking that car salesman/dealerships would actually like to have a better reputation than pond scum.

People like you are EXACTLY what is wrong with this world.

[New Guy]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

You've totally misinterpreted my posts, and in fact clearly don't even understand them.

The point about the Wii I was making is REGARDLESS of demand price was held constant. MSRP was charged and every customer paid the same price, regardless of where they went who they where or how long they waited (some people didn't even wait!)

Secondly, we DO NOT HAVE a free market system, so saying "That is the free market system" is about as relevant as saying "The sky is blue." The point is that I don't think I am special, quite the opposite I think that regardless of how much something is wanted that it should be the same price from place to place at a particular time, especially when that price is being advertised to the customer.

Frankly you are nothing but a greedy *******, who thinks he is 100% justified in what he does. Karma man, it is a bitch, and one day you are going to be on the receiving end of some **** because of you attitude.

Man.... Talk about attitude! Karma? Greed? Please....

You never heard of supply and demand and the free market system and you want to espouse economics? Get a freakin education.

You want the same price from place to place? Try that with a GALLON of GAS moron.

Why is gas 4.05 in Chicago and 3.60 in Indiana? I don't know? Maybe you get a "Special rate."

In fact....

Because you are soooo special you probably pay the same "Flat rate Nationally" because the "Free Market System" doesn't exist on your imaginary world that dikheads like you live in.

You are just another idiot who lives in dreamland. Stick a base GT G8 up your ass for all I care....

Just don't come online and expect all of us here to eat the shiat you preach pal.

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

I haven't, and I won't, as will hordes of other people. Which means eventually Pontiac fails as a whole.

Unless I missed something...because Pontiac allows the G8 to be sold above MSRP, you won't buy a Pontiac? And Ford (GT, Shelby), Dodge (Viper), Chrysler (PT Cruiser), Buick (GNX), and nearly every other brand that has had a popular model? So this narrows your choices to Hyundai, Kia, and Suzuki?

[New Guy]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

I haven't, and I won't, as will hordes of other people. Which means eventually Pontiac fails as a whole.

So when GM can't sell anymore Pontiac's who are they going to blame? Not the customer who didn't buy the product, rather the dealers who are so short sighted that they'd rather make a quick buck sticking it up someones ass than make a effort to maintain and nurture a customer base.

Silly me for thinking that car salesman/dealerships would actually like to have a better reputation than pond scum.

People like you are EXACTLY what is wrong with this world.

When is Pontiac failing because I would like to short some stock.... Oh, wait! This is coming from your imaginary world. My Bad....

A customer base made up of people like you is not a customer base..

What do you do for a living? I bet that paycheck is paid for with Loses...

Profit? No couldn't do that. Profits don't exist in your world....

So you must steal or deal crack for a living... Right?

p.s. I am not a Car Dealer.... Nice try though....

Now go back to that place you call home.... Dreamland....

[New Guy]

Originally Posted by Hudson

Unless I missed something...because Pontiac allows the G8 to be sold above MSRP, you won't buy a Pontiac? And Ford (GT, Shelby), Dodge (Viper), Chrysler (PT Cruiser), Buick (GNX), and nearly every other brand that has had a popular model? So this narrows your choices to Hyundai, Kia, and Suzuki?

Hudson,

Obviously this guy trolls this site with a limited brain cell count. In one hour I learned that there is no such thing as a free market system and profits are Baaad.....

Just ignore the fool....


He's a "You a took me out of context" poster....

He Must be a polititian or something...

[Generous Motors]

I think both sides are missing the point here. Yes the dealers have every right to mark up the vehicle, the question is should they.

I worked at a dealer for years and no the dealers don't make alot on new vehicles, but most more than make it up on trade ins and used vehicles. Be honest salepeople you don't low ball and hide what you are paying for a trade in just because the customer is hot for whatever vehicle you are dealing on, that is your choice and the customers.

BUT are you in the dealerships willing to kill the goose to get a few fast bucks, everytime you pull the over MSRP on regular models (not special or limited models) like the G8 you confirm the precieved dealer experience of the general buying public, is it worth it to put yourself out of the market tomorrow for a few bucks today?

[O_Z]

There is no Free Market in this country
Try to change price of gas more than once per day

[BryceStrong]

I just looked at the Z06 we got in and was surprised to find no addendum. There's usually a $20,000 DMA added to those that the owner is adamant about. I know that some of you will start screaming murder, but it's a good example of the market adjusting itself. Thought I'd share...!