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Old 09-24-2007, 11:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: UAW Strikes GM!

I wonder if the strike threat, and them following through scared GM.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:40 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: UAW Strikes GM!

If the strike lasts less than 3 days then it is merely a blip on the radar.

GM can afford that much. But it does place them in a situation where they have to agree to some of the Unions demands.

It would be wise for both sides to continue bargaining non-stop until an agreement is reached.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:40 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: UAW Strikes Against GM!

Does the UAW recognize that the automotive market is a global market, and that UAW wages and benefits must be globally competitive or the jobs will continue to fade away? Of course not.

The 1950s and 1960s are over. GM, Ford, and Chrysler will do what it takes to survive, and if that means more assembly overseas, so be it. Remember, GM is owned by its stock holders, not its employees. The employees should be grateful for the opportunity to earn a living for GM.

GM management has the responsibility to ensure that it's doing what it can to keep the company alive for the stock holders. If the UAW prices itself out of existence, blame short-sighted UAW leadership, not the auto company management.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:41 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I bet the corks are popping in Tokyo right about now. Not because GM is not producing vehicles, but because the probability that the UAW will organize a Japanese factory in the U.S. just dropped by 99.9%. Factory workers down south will see this and say "thanks, but no thanks".
not really - read Friday articles how GM is the best position from all Big3 to simply move all production out of US into Canade, Mexico, South America, Korea and China - a redical move like this would sufddenly turn the tables on the manufacturing costs and make GM cars cheaprto build than Japanese cars.

I think this is a unique opportunity for GM.

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Old 09-24-2007, 11:42 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: UAW Strikes Against GM!

NO settlement as of yet... Man this stuff changes fast...!!
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:45 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Strike Is On

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"We did everything possible to negotiate a new contract, including an unprecedented agreement to stay at the bargaining table nine days past the expiration of the previous agreement."
Apparently you didn't. I bet Toyota is snickering into it's cupped hands right about now....way to go UAW, greedy sonsabitches. What ever happened to self-sacrifice? To personal responsibility? Don't cave Big Three, don't cave. Someone has to finally stand up to these Gimmes.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:46 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: UAW Strikes Against GM!

I totally and completely don't care if they they never get paid again now.

They are automatically wrong now in my eyes.

I would have liked a concession by them with an agreement with GM that the money saved would be spent on product and product only. Not executive bonuses, not acquiring another company, and not hiring more executive positions.

I think GM can hold out for a couple of months. Those members can't.

I guess now they go on strike everytime they need to renegotiate their contract. They had this stupid woman on the TV today with gold teeth and a neck chain saying that it's hard to raise a family with labor pay, and GM wants them to cut.

Don't cut their pay. Cut the jobs bank!
The UAW needs to let them RIF those people that don't work. Hell, with the money they save they should give the existing workers bonuses. And give them another bonus if their product gets an above average reliability rating in CR.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: UAW Strikes Against GM!

The fact that there apparently will still be a job bank should be enough to let the UAW walk away from the table and hope they never come back.

GM's stock is down on the news.

Here's a concept for job security, how about a realistic pay/benefits package that ensures GM is still in business to negotiate a new contract 4 years from now?

Makes me want to buy another transplant (or an imported G8).

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Old 09-24-2007, 11:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
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12:15 Est time PRESS CONFERENCE to ANNOUNCE A DEAL HAS BEEN MADE....!!! That was a long strike..!




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not really - read Friday articles how GM is the best position from all Big3 to simply move all production out of US into Canade, Mexico, South America, Korea and China - a redical move like this would sufddenly turn the tables on the manufacturing costs and make GM cars cheaprto build than Japanese cars.

I think this is a unique opportunity for GM.

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Whether or not GM can move production out of the country, I am sure the Japanese are glad that their American factories will not be organized any time soon.
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Re: Strike Is On

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not really - read Friday articles how GM is the best position from all Big3 to simply move all production out of US into Canade, Mexico, South America, Korea and China - a redical move like this would sufddenly turn the tables on the manufacturing costs and make GM cars cheaprto build than Japanese cars.

I think this is a unique opportunity for GM.

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Great post: the question I have is whether Ford or Chrysler will agree to whatever GM and the union negotiate.

While GM may be in the best position to move production, it seems to me that Chrysler is in the best position to simply adopt the contract manufacturing model and outsource everything save the marketing and distribution.
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we have a deal
I take it you're a UAW member?
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united we stand divided we fall, its on now
United we stand? You mean that united arm of the company that happens to build the car...and to the hell with product quality and everything else. The sad part is that the UAW considers itself seperate from the company.

United we stand? The Japanese competition is having a party RIGHT NOW. Why don't you wave that flag?
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For real??? You have a link?
No man sorry im watching the news (detroit news) stuff is changing minute by minute.. yu can goto clickondetroit.com for updates...
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Re: UAW Strikes Against GM!

These people are so narrow minded that they can't realize what type of damage it will do not only to their work, but to those who employ them. I am hopeful of an agreement that will benefit everyone, but know that even with that, many will still feel that they have been forgotten. Don't make yourselves out as the victim, UAW, when you victimize those who believe in your hooey!
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