Let The Awards Continue!

[ZHDesign57]

I'm stunned. GM has got their mojo back, I'm thrilled...Can't wait to see what the future holds. But what I'm really worried about is where they are getting beat. I got into an argument about Corvette v. Viper today. Once I told the guy that I barely see what they are doing to make a viper better when they come out with a new one, and that a 650+ HP Corvette was coming he shut it and tried to start talking about a Charger. Well of course I responded that the Pontiac G8 had that covered. But still one point in this argument stood out, the point where the guy said "Well corvette just copied off the viper" made me realize that this guy really wasn't worth arguing to anyways. Pure Ignorance,...Ahem, but Hopefully the ZR-1 and Camaro will shut the Viper-bloaters and Mustang-mouths up.
And Next time I need to make sure I'm arguing with a "Car Guy".

[drew630]

Originally Posted by EllwynX

Actually, depending on where you're from it is. It's an accent thing.

I often say them the same way, it all depends on the sentence I guess. I never thought about it 'til now. Just like this sentence-

Can what you can.

In each instance most people would pronounce 'can' differently.

The accent I just can't get over is when someone insists 'Harry' and 'Hairy' are pronounced the same! LOL

I meant spelling wise.... Saying When and Win sound the exact same to me.

[MelvinJ]

Originally Posted by ponchoman49

The Vibe up untill 2008 had lower cladding and bodyside moldings so your statement has me puzzled. The Matrix was as plain as a pancake but you say the Vibe is better looking.

Well, good point. Everything is body color on our Vibe, so the cladding on the bottom doesn't stand out to me at all, but I just checked, and yes there is a plastic panel down low, but above the rockers. I guess I was thinking more of rocker extensions (the type that hang lower than the regular rockers), which I don't like on anything.

The Matrix's problems to me aren't that it's plain, but it's shape is softened in places compared to the crisper Vibe, and the front end is typical Toyota-bad. I prefer the original Vibe front end to the 2005 update, but they are both way better than the Matrix front end.
YMMV.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by ZHDesign57

I'm stunned. GM has got their mojo back, I'm thrilled...Can't wait to see what the future holds. But what I'm really worried about is where they are getting beat. I got into an argument about Corvette v. Viper today. Once I told the guy that I barely see what they are doing to make a viper better when they come out with a new one, and that a 650+ HP Corvette was coming he shut it and tried to start talking about a Charger. Well of course I responded that the Pontiac G8 had that covered. But still one point in this argument stood out, the point where the guy said "Well corvette just copied off the viper" made me realize that this guy really wasn't worth arguing to anyways. Pure Ignorance,...Ahem, but Hopefully the ZR-1 and Camaro will shut the Viper-bloaters and Mustang-mouths up.
And Next time I need to make sure I'm arguing with a "Car Guy".

Come on man. The current Chevy Corvette Z06 can still beat the new Dodge Viper. It really doesn't matter what that guy you were having an argument with tried to say. The Chevy Corvette Z06 is the best bang for the buck super car on the market. By the way, the Z06 can run from 0-60 in less than 3.7 seconds. I've seen and read about it being done quite a few times. The Z06 is capable of sprinting from 0-60 in under 3.5 seconds. It all depends on how you operate the clutch. I can't wait till the new Chevy Camaro and the new Corvette ZR1 hit the market. GM's really going to have a good time with Dodge, Ford, and a few others.

[EllwynX]

Originally Posted by CharlotteFirebird

Don't forget the ground effects of the Toyota Corolla and (some of) the Camry, especially the former. Talk about ugly...

Actually, the only Camry and Corolla I find attractive are those with the GFX.

[1969CamaroSS350]

I wish they picked the best car for each class, that way mid-size buyers could look at the Ten Best and say well the Malibu is here but the Accord isn't.

[MBHockey13]

Originally Posted by Buick61

As I said in the other, similar, thread:

That's all good news.

But lets wait until the newness wears off and see if the Malibu makes it on the list next year.

I would be surprised if it did.

GM has a mid-sized family sedan make the TEN BEST LIST - meaning, not just ten best sedans - ten best of ALL cars from ALL companies in Car & Driver of all things - and this guy wants to be pessimistic about what MAY or MAY NOT happen next year.

[Hoosier Red]

Originally Posted by MBHockey13

GM has a mid-sized family sedan make the TEN BEST LIST - meaning, not just ten best sedans - ten best of ALL cars from ALL companies in Car & Driver of all things - and this guy wants to be pessimistic about what MAY or MAY NOT happen next year.

Agreed......allow us to savor it just a bit. Here's my dream - to see those three plus a GM compact on the list.

[FierySolstice]

That's great news! Both the CTS and Malibu are amazing cars. What about the G8? Was that a contender to be part of the 10 best? From all what I read in the press, they like it, so how come that's not on the list?

[steveRB]

I love GM's new products. I am a content Honda Accord owner but my next car will be from GM.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by steveRB

I love GM's new products. I am a content Honda Accord owner but my next car will be from GM.

Welcome to GMI. Hope your next car is a GM vehicle. The new Chevy Malibu is a great value.

[greenhornet]

I see a great deal of anti Japanese sentiment here and frankly, I'm delighted. Now if someone would condense this book into a readable size and challange the great mass of American consumers to read it, I think we might see the Japan, inc. steam engine slow to a managable speed.

[andy82471]

Originally Posted by Gm786

Well this is awesome news! Lately GM has been racking up a lot of awards and we can only hope that they keep on coming. I'm sure that these awards will definitely help GM gain more sales. After all the new Chevy Malibu and the new Cadillac CTS are definitely world class cars in their respective segments.

The new Malibu and the CTS is certainly a great improvement over their predecessors, but calling them world class in their segment is stretching the truth.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by andy82471

The new Malibu and the CTS is certainly a great improvement over their predecessors, but calling them world class in their segment is stretching the truth.

Actually, I wouldn't say that the new Cadillac CTS isn't world class in it's segment. The new CTS is a great mid size luxury sedan from GM although it could use some very small improvements in some areas but apart from that I think the CTS has leapfrogged the other cars in its segment in terms of luxury, design, overall performance, and value. The new Chevy Malibu on the other hand may not be world class but it's surely is a solid contender that puts the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry which are the Malibu's main competitors to shame in terms of exterior design, interior design, and overall luxury. I certainly don't think that saying that the new CTS is a world class luxury car in it's respected segment is stretching the truth at all but I admit that I was a bit off to say that about the new Chevy Malibu although it's a solid family sedan from GM.

[robb4964]

Originally Posted by Buick61

As I said in the other, similar, thread:

That's all good news.

But lets wait until the newness wears off and see if the Malibu makes it on the list next year.

I would be surprised if it did.

Me to. Its amazing how a magazine will publish and praise a car then the following year dog all the same features that it praised.