2010 Equinox: Chevrolet's New Edge?

[M_RABID]

Originally Posted by Rocket 88

Awesome News!!!

The Japanese are eating our lunch and GM brilliantly targets the FORD EDGE!
Do the dinosaurs at the Ren Center think its the 50's?

Consumers are looking for smaller and more fuel efficient choices and GM produces a larger Equinox!

Just because the new Vue is overweight and GM has a bunch of fatties in the lineup is no reason to think the Equinox won't be a featherweight... although does anyone know any reason to think differently????

Rocket- read the thread on the new GM little-utes. Stop the doom-n-gloom.

Nothing wrong with a little larger Equinox if it's going to be pushing 27+mpg. An optional 3rd row of seating, even if it is almost unusable, will also sell many more vehicles. The current Nox/Torrent is awful inside, and they ride like crap. People comming inside the dealerships are looking for a fuel efficient suv/crossover package. SIZE DOES NOT MATTER! Actually, the more stuff/people you can shove in, the better. We need this to be the next volume crossover (we miss the Rendezvous)!

[Eric77TA]

Originally Posted by Astra RL

Why is this getting bigger the nox is 188.8" while the 3 row Captiva is 182.5", how do they do it. I thought the two would merge maybe they will merge as two products.

I'm not sure why they couldn't do it, either? I think (correct me if I'm wrong) the Captiva is on Theta 1.5 like the new Vue, while the Equinox is on Theta II, but I don't know why the current Captiva could get three rows in that length and not the 'nox.

[USA1Fan]

Why does a recent news posting on the new 'nox over on Edmunds indicate the the upcoming vehicle is on the same platform as the Malibu and Aura (not sure whether they mean the current Ep I or the upcoming Ep II)?

[nsap]

Originally Posted by USA1Fan

Why does a recent news posting on the new 'nox over on Edmunds indicate the the upcoming vehicle is on the same platform as the Malibu and Aura (not sure whether they mean the current Ep I or the upcoming Ep II)?

Because they are incorrect. Epsilon in its current form cannot even spawn crossovers.

[big swede]

Originally Posted by Vetterider23

Not 100% sure you are correct on this part. I am pretty sure engineers can dial down horsepower in favor of fuel economy...etc...Of course I agree with the fact that you should start with an efficient engine.

Bob Lutz himself was asked this very same question because so many people think it's that easy. If you search on this site you might find the interview. You cannot "dial" down hp in favor of fuel economy.

[Extreme4x4]

Originally Posted by djo165

Size has EVERYTHING to do with it!!!

Live and drive every day in a crowded city? A few inches plus or minus in length or width of a vehicle makes a big difference in lane changes, maneuverability, and parking. It also can make a difference in the driver's perception of the vehicle, much in the same way that vehicle mass does.

The CR-V and Escape are very comparable. Sure, the Honda is lighter, probably more nimble, and maybe not as "rugged." But we're talking FWD/AWD small CUVs here, not Hummers, Jeeps, or Land Rovers.

Actually, the 4cyl Escape is lighter than the CRV. Yes, the 6cyl is heavier than the 4cyl CRV.

Other than that, I agree completely.

My Tribute was great fun around town. It was nimble and easy to drive. I could park anywhere I wanted. Now I am driving this Superduty, which I love on the road. Parking lots are another story, however. LOL

[SS3]

Oh, and the Escape gets horrible horrible gas milage. City driving, my gf is lucky to get more then 15mpg. Even when we took it down to DC, we were pushing to get 20mpg.

Then you are driving with a lead foot OR the Escape needs a tune up.

And it's kind of neat how, when confronted with facts, you move off of your original contention that the Escape is much larger than the others. Smoooth.

(BTW - I am a GM buyer, haven't ever owned a Ford)

[jry]

Originally Posted by SS3

Then you are driving with a lead foot OR the Escape needs a tune up.

And it's kind of neat how, when confronted with facts, you move off of your original contention that the Escape is much larger than the others. Smoooth.

(BTW - I am a GM buyer, haven't ever owned a Ford)

I was a GM only guy for years. I cannot wait to pick up my Wife's 09, Escape Hybrid.

[blank disk]

sorry, but I have to knock the 'nox.
Styling rates very low in my eyes.

[nsap]

Originally Posted by blank disk

sorry, but I have to knock the 'nox.
Styling rates very low in my eyes.

You can tell all of that from one low-quality 400 pixel image? Damn you're good.

Remember what we talked about....

[member12]

Originally Posted by nsap

You can tell all of that from one low-quality 400 pixel image? Damn you're good.

Remember what we talked about....

NASP....what kind of problems did your Equinox have?
Wasn't it bought back by GM?


Pretty much everyone I know with an Equinox, Torrent or previous generation Vue ended up having major reliability problems....and I was sure that yours had issues, too.

GM needs to address that even more than they need to address the "initial quality".

[SierraGS]

Initial information is encouraging and like the fact they are offering a 2.3L I-4 as a base and over 200 HP sounds great, any torque numbers?

Also hope they keep the adjustable/reclining 2nd row but think at least one model needs a 3rd row option - maybe a feature to make it "different" than the others.

Hopefully GM will make one of the models more "off-road ready" than the current ones - not looking to do the Rubicon Trail in one but but better than just unpaved or snow covered road capable. GM could offer an air adjustable suspension to give better ground clearance and a sub frame like Suzuki did with the Grand Vitara.

[MechEng]

Originally Posted by 2648562

Thanks, I learned something new today! I always thought Ramos Arizpe, Mexico was in Mexico.

It is in Mexico. But the Equinox and Torrent are not made there. Only the Vue is.

The Nox and Torrent are made at the CAMI plant in Ingersoll, Ontario.

On another note the current theta twins reliability problems seemed to stem from the Chinese made 3.4L V6.

The new Nox and Terrain will not use this engine. Plus will probably have a 6 speed auto.

[Equinox]

Originally Posted by Eric77TA

I'm not sure why they couldn't do it, either? I think (correct me if I'm wrong) the Captiva is on Theta 1.5 like the new Vue, while the Equinox is on Theta II, but I don't know why the current Captiva could get three rows in that length and not the 'nox.

It's in the design...roof lines don't allow for a thrid row in the Equinox...old or new.

[Equinox]

Originally Posted by MechEng

It is in Mexico. But the Equinox and Torrent are not made there. Only the Vue is.

The Nox and Torrent are made at the CAMI plant in Ingersoll, Ontario.

On another note the current theta twins reliability problems seemed to stem from the Chinese made 3.4L V6.

The new Nox and Terrain will not use this engine. Plus will probably have a 6 speed auto.

I heard the 4 cylinder may come from either Tonawanda NY or St. Catherines in Ontario Canada