2010 Equinox: Chevrolet's New Edge?

[ausrutherford]

Originally Posted by 1487

Th edge was the top selling V6 crossover last year. You target the sales leaders. The Vue is more the size of the CR-V and Rav4. GM needs a competent 5 passenger crossover and the Equinox should be that.

The problem with that is the Edge is a mid size crossover and the Vue is a compact crossover. Gm only has one compact and that is sad. Ford has 3, Chry has none. Honda has 2. Bring over that Chevy sold over seas.

[377Z]

Any word if the 4 cylinder model will have available AWD, and if the AWD system will be capable of transferring more than 30% of the torque to the rear axle?

Since the Vue is supposed to do a 50/50 torque split, I presume Theta II will as well. I hate the fact that the 4 cyl Vue is FWD only, though it could be due to the implications of trying to move Vue's heroic mass with 169HP thru an AWD system.

[2648562]

Hmmn, Canada or Mexico? Canada or Mexico? I'll take the Edge. GM can fail all they want with these. I don't care.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by ausrutherford

The problem with that is the Edge is a mid size crossover and the Vue is a compact crossover. Gm only has one compact and that is sad. Ford has 3, Chry has none. Honda has 2. Bring over that Chevy sold over seas.

Right. I have no problem with the Equinox growing a little (as long as it keeps the weight down) but now they need something to fill the slot below it. If they're targeting the Edge with the nox, then what goes against the Escape? They need another smaller crossover.

[zeobandit]

The info on the 'Nox sounds good, but GM really needs to get the Cruze and Beat on US streets, like NOW.

[rsinsel]

Originally Posted by ByTheLake

GM's targets should always be customer needs and desires, never another vehicle. When a company focuses on its competition rather than the customer, it misses the mark.

By targeting the vehicles customers are currently buying are they not targeting the customers themselves. I don't think going after a Honda audience is a bad thing.

[JT87]

Originally Posted by 2648562

Hmmn, Canada or Mexico? Canada or Mexico? I'll take the Edge. GM can fail all they want with these. I don't care.

Mexico? I didn't realize Ontario was in Mexico! (the Edge, Equinox, and GMC/Pontiac Theta are all built in Ontario)


Back to the original topic.
Yes on the 3.0, yes on the 3.6, yes on a DI 4 cylinder (I wasn't sure of the displacement), yes on the 3rd row option (think RAV4's third row seat). 6 speeds all around (I heard the possibility of a manual as well?). I was told the Chevy looks 'ok' and the GMC looks 'funky,' so we'll see where that takes us.

[ausrutherford]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

Right. I have no problem with the Equinox growing a little (as long as it keeps the weight down) but now they need something to fill the slot below it.

Right because the current Equinox is not compact or mid size, its somewhere in between ands thats probably why the sales have gone down because people look for compact and mid size,not a crossover in between. I mean people that are looking for a compact will not get it because it is too big. People looking for a mid size think it is too small.

[Ambalanche]

So now Chevrolet will have two midsize crossovers. One large, Traverse, one medium, Equinox. What will go against the CRV and Rav4 and to a lesser extent, Sportage? That's where the market is going in my opinion.

How about a 35 MPG small crossover?

[SS3]

Originally Posted by Ambalanche

So now Chevrolet will have two midsize crossovers. One large, Traverse, one medium, Equinox. What will go against the CRV and Rav4 and to a lesser extent, Sportage? That's where the market is going in my opinion.

How about a 35 MPG small crossover?

EXACTLY ! Don't go bigger, go smaller. The 2009 Ford Escape is going to get super mileage with it's new 4-cylinder and 6-speed automatic. It will give CRV and RAV4 a good battle (it's the number one selling vehicle in its class in Canada). Where is Chevy (GM)?

[ausrutherford]

Originally Posted by Ambalanche

So now Chevrolet will have two midsize crossovers. One large, Traverse, one medium, Equinox. What will go against the CRV and Rav4 and to a lesser extent, Sportage? That's where the market is going in my opinion.

How about a 35 MPG small crossover?

The traverse is a full size crossover.

[regfootball]

GM won't be able to match the smoothness and comfort of the Edge, I'm thinking. They're not capable, espcially with a hand me down platform like the theta.

[CmicasatheGreat]

Originally Posted by Joevette

why would a 3.0l produce 270hp but the 3.6 only put out 280? kind of redundant if that were true

Because the 3.6L is actually capable of MORE as we kno from the CTS at 304HP... and I am told it can really hit the 330HP mark with some tuning.

Is this the same 3.0L that will be Turboed to 420HP that Docray was talking about?

[TriShield]

So GM is targeting an SUV whose sales are now tanking due to fuel prices with their own SUV foil in a market that does not want more SUVs.

Brilliant!

Rick should have announced yesterday that they were killing these new SUV programs, that they were pruning all the SUVs and trucks that cannabalize each other like the Outlook and most GMCs, and that they would sell the Beat, Cruze and prioritize more small cars for America.

But he didn't. Is there any doubt left?

[wescoent]

Agreed with everyone on the "smaller, not bigger" point.

The Edge is an overengineered pig, and is NOT a good target.

Equinox should shrink and take on the Honda CRV with a 200hp I4, and a less-emphasized optional V6 for those who want it.

The Escape is going to be remaining small when it morphs into the Kuga in the near future, and GM will be left without any competitor for it.