2009 Astra = 2008 Astra?

**nsap** · 05-29-2008, 09:53 PM

2009 Astra = 2008 Astra
GM's 2009 Order Guide & Fleet Guide are both showing no changes to ASTRA
www.gminsidenews.com

We at GMI have been searching high and low for any tid-bit of details on the 2009 Saturn Astra. The car launched in the 2008 model-year with very few options and an engine that barely meets segment standards. Although the car has many good qualities, many within the Saturn fanfare were wishing for the addition of some of the buffet of options that are offered on the European-spec Astra. GM has finally put the 2009 Astra up on the Online Order Guide, as well as the 2009 GM Fleet Guide; both showing no changes at all to the 2009 model Astra.

PA Dweller · 05-29-2008, 09:55 PM

Wow thats lame.

genjy · 05-29-2008, 10:01 PM

It's time to cue to magic word we know so well:

Stopgap

dindak · 05-29-2008, 10:08 PM

Why is this car not made in Spring Hill? GM must be spending a fortune on shipping and the Euro / dollar exchange must be killing them. GM must be doing all they can to cut costs.

That said, car makers usually don't do much from year 1 to year 2 and this car was late for an 08 anyway. No big deal.

vsd · 05-29-2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genjy

It's time to cue to magic word we know so well:

Stopgap

Probably followed by another one we have become well acquainted with:

Incentives

CadiEldo67 · 05-29-2008, 10:11 PM

Isn't the Astra due for a redesign around 2010 anyways? What is 2 more years in the automotive world? The Camaro might be out and about by then.

Olds88 · 05-29-2008, 10:27 PM

Is there a reason Astra doesn't have the superior in every way 2.2L Cobalt XFE drivetrain? 36mpg in a Euro package is bound to sell.

FenwickHockey65 · 05-29-2008, 10:33 PM

Why GM?!?!? WHY?!?! Does it take that much effort to just throw in a few option packages?!?

coaster.n3rd · 05-29-2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genjy

It's time to cue to magic word we know so well:

Stopgap

Correct. The attitude from the dealer reps has changed over the last two months. At first it was "we will sell about 35,000 this year" to "Its' a stop gap, we will sell about 15,000 and we are not touching it"

Oh well... I'm more than making up for the Ion with 4 cyl Aura's. I'm out of those.

DuSpinnst · 05-29-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coaster.n3rd

Correct. The attitude from the dealer reps has changed over the last two months. At first it was "we will sell about 35,000 this year" to "Its' a stop gap, we will sell about 15,000 and we are not touching it"

Oh well... I'm more than making up for the Ion with 4 cyl Aura's. I'm out of those.

Dude, that is lame. Good news on the Aura though.

Aprime · 05-29-2008, 11:09 PM

Divert stock to Canada, ffs.

The car would be selling well here if it weren't for the low availability.

3-doors are a rarity and so are manuals, and orders take 3 months to arrive.

Other than that I'm pretty please with the car and I'll be replacing my 07 Wave with an 08 Astra within the end of June.

3-door and it's even possible it will be in a custom color, 4 dealers are fighting for a sale (one's a regular GM dealer that doesn't want to lose me as a customer, so).

vandy0419 · 05-29-2008, 11:22 PM

I haven't been so damn disappointed in Saturn as I am now.

goblue · 05-29-2008, 11:26 PM

$4 gas and GM misses the opportunity to improve their best weapon against it. How about a diesel? Instead we can't even get a competitive 4 cylinder - even though GM has what, 5 that would be an improvement?

ronald mcretard · 05-29-2008, 11:40 PM

ridiculous. i guess i'll be hanging onto my car for a little while longer...

chickenkicker · 05-29-2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goblue

$4 gas and GM misses the opportunity to improve their best weapon against it. How about a diesel? Instead we can't even get a competitive 4 cylinder - even though GM has what, 5 that would be an improvement?

I really don't see why they can't throw in a better 4cyl, the only reason I can think of is that it would take so much time to get it certified, etc. that they couldn't get it out in time for the 09my. Tho if that's the case they should have started working on it earlier imo. As for a Diesel, when regular gas here is $3.87 a gallon and Diesel is $5.29 a gallon a diesel car really isn't as appealing to me as it used to be when it costs $1.42 more per gallon to fill it up (and probably more soon the price of diesel has been rising at a much faster rate than gas around here, 6 months ago diesel was only 90cents to a dollar more than regular).

05-29-2008, 09:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
nsap Administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Drives: 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP 2009 Ford Focus SEL Posts: 15,018	2009 Astra = 2008 Astra? 2009 Astra = 2008 Astra GM's 2009 Order Guide & Fleet Guide are both showing no changes to ASTRA www.gminsidenews.com We at GMI have been searching high and low for any tid-bit of details on the 2009 Saturn Astra. The car launched in the 2008 model-year with very few options and an engine that barely meets segment standards. Although the car has many good qualities, many within the Saturn fanfare were wishing for the addition of some of the buffet of options that are offered on the European-spec Astra. GM has finally put the 2009 Astra up on the Online Order Guide, as well as the 2009 GM Fleet Guide; both showing no changes at all to the 2009 model Astra. __________________ E-Mail Me Engine Guide Updated!! -- Revised layout, more info., up-to-date

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dindak 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto area Posts: 2,177	Re: 2009 Astra = 2008 Astra? Why is this car not made in Spring Hill? GM must be spending a fortune on shipping and the Euro / dollar exchange must be killing them. GM must be doing all they can to cut costs. That said, car makers usually don't do much from year 1 to year 2 and this car was late for an 08 anyway. No big deal.

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CadiEldo67 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State Drives: 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix GT Posts: 572	Re: 2009 Astra = 2008 Astra? Isn't the Astra due for a redesign around 2010 anyways? What is 2 more years in the automotive world? The Camaro might be out and about by then. __________________ "In fact, the G8 GT isn't just quicker than the Charger R/T, but nearly as quick as the much more expensive 425-hp Charger SRT8. That beast's 6.1-liter Hemi sped it to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds and ripped up the quarter-mile in 13.6 seconds at 105 mph." - Edmunds.com

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Olds88 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: May 2007 Drives: 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche 1991 Chevrolet Caprice W Posts: 701	Re: 2009 Astra = 2008 Astra? Is there a reason Astra doesn't have the superior in every way 2.2L Cobalt XFE drivetrain? 36mpg in a Euro package is bound to sell. __________________ Current <> 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche LT and 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Wagon - 175,000 miles and counting Past <> 1992 Mercury Grand Marquis, 1984 Oldsmobile Delta88, 1994 Chevrolet S10 Blazer (now my brother's, 145k on it), 1990 Buick Estate Wagon Future <> 2009 Dodge Challenger R/T 6sp, 1959 Buick Invicta Dream <>1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442 Convertible, 1987 Buick Grand National GNX, 20xx RWD BOF Buick Roadmaster Last edited by Olds88 : 05-29-2008 at 10:33 PM.

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FenwickHockey65 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: West Chester, OH Drives: Chevrolet Malibu LS, GMC Envoy SLE, GMC Sonoma SLS Posts: 5,477	Re: 2009 Astra = 2008 Astra? Why GM?!?!? WHY?!?! Does it take that much effort to just throw in a few option packages?!? __________________ Proud to drive American. Proud to drive GM. Current Cars: 2007 Chevrolet Malibu LS: 2.2L ECOTEC I-4 2003 GMC Envoy SLE: 4.2L Vortec 4200 I-6 1998 GMC Sonoma SLS Ext. Cab: 4.3L Vortec 4300 V6 Former Cars: 1993 Saturn SW2 (1993-2006, 243,000 miles) 1989 GMC Safari SLT (1989-2003, 293,000 miles) Future Car: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2LT RS: 3.6L DI VVT V6

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Aprime 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gatineau, QC Drives: 2007 Pontiac Wave Posts: 363	Re: 2009 Astra = 2008 Astra? Divert stock to Canada, ffs. The car would be selling well here if it weren't for the low availability. 3-doors are a rarity and so are manuals, and orders take 3 months to arrive. Other than that I'm pretty please with the car and I'll be replacing my 07 Wave with an 08 Astra within the end of June. 3-door and it's even possible it will be in a custom color, 4 dealers are fighting for a sale (one's a regular GM dealer that doesn't want to lose me as a customer, so).

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