Who is using Amsoil?

[nailhead425]

Originally Posted by scooter10572

Btw Mobil 1 is not all that its cracked up to be,Ive seen independent testing on syn oils and mobil 1 generally comes in near the bottom in most categories,Im not saying its bad oil only that there are better oils.Btw Im a Chevrolet Master tech with 18 years exp.So I do have extensive knowledge of oils.

So then that begs the question, why do so many OEMs recommend it in their top-end engines?
If it is near the bottom should I just go to Checker and get some Flag generic 5w30?

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by nailhead425

So then that begs the question, why do so many OEMs recommend it in their top-end engines?
If it is near the bottom should I just go to Checker and get some Flag generic 5w30?

Maybe because the Mobil 1 is paying them to use their oil? "Hey Joe Bob, they put this stuff in Corvettes from the factory - you know it's gotta be the best." That's great advertising for Mobil 1. Most people don't really research oils so that kind of brand recognition might make them pick Mobil 1 over the other 6 brands of synthetics on the shelf.

In fact here part of a press release from Mobil 1:

Flagship Mobil 1 Synthetic Engine Oil Selected for Factory Fill in 1992


IRVING, Texas -- In recognition of its longstanding collaboration with one of the world's most storied high performance automobiles, ExxonMobil is proud to announce the 15th anniversary of the relationship between the company's flagship Mobil 1 synthetic engine oil and Corvette.
Since 1992, Mobil 1 has been the factory and service fill lubricant for all Corvettes manufactured by General Motors. During this time, more than 490,000 Corvette vehicles have left the production line filled with Mobil 1 engine oil.

In addition, the relationship with Mobil 1 has also helped Corvette drive to the winner's circle on the international race circuit again and again. Since 1998, GM Corvette Racing has won the top GT class in the grueling 24-hour Le Mans five times and recorded 51 race victories and six manufacturers' championship victories in the American Le Mans Series, using the LS7.R Corvette engine filled with Mobil 1. In 2006, a Mobil 1-filled LS7.R engine was also named the Global Motorsport Engine of the Year at the inaugural Professional Motorsport World Expo in Cologne, Germany.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...3/ai_n24921330

Mobil 1's involvement in racing looks good on the automakers part because they are using a well known brand of oil. So both companies benefit.

[E. Haskell]

Oh, and I've said it a lot, but I believe the only way to know anything is to have an oil analysis done by a 3rd party. Run the oil in your car, pour a little in the provided cup when you change it and send it to the lab. They will tell you how the oil is performing in your car. I've seen many people do this on Bobistheoilguy and many times the expensive oils get out performed by something like $2 Havoline.

As far as a car running better with a certain brand of oil - I'll believe that when I see multiple independent 3rd party test done. Personally, I don't buy it. I don't believe the difference between the best and worst oil is enough to make a difference on how an engine runs. I say it's a mental thing.

[The Factory Man]

Originally Posted by scooter10572

Ive run amsoil for years in a variety of engines and have never experienced any problems but have experienced better running engines,I run it in my Harley for approx 5 years and engine runs cooler trans shifts better and quieter.I pay 20 bucks to become a preffered cust thru amsoil and buy it at dealer cost.So its not much more expensive than any other syn oil.Btw Mobil 1 is not all that its cracked up to be,Ive seen independent testing on syn oils and mobil 1 generally comes in near the bottom in most categories,Im not saying its bad oil only that there are better oils.Btw Im a Chevrolet Master tech with 18 years exp.So I do have extensive knowledge of oils.

I don't know what independant testing you are refering to, please give us the source of this information. The AMSOIL site itself recognizes that Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil usually is the next best oil in the test they are running, see this web site. http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/...etest11-05.htm In my 33 years with General Motors I saw many reports on oil tests and Mobil 1 was far superior to most oils tested which resulted in the decision to use Mobil 1 as a factory fill in millions of GM engines.

[nailhead425]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

I've seen many people do this on Bobistheoilguy and many times the expensive oils get out performed by something like $2 Havoline.

I don't buy it.

Originally Posted by The Factory Man

http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/...etest11-05.htm

So much for $2 Havoline...

[W.A.F.U.]

Amsoil users should read this.......

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/amsoil.html

So yeah, Amsoil does work well to a point. But what damage are we doing to our engines when the viscosity being so high?

By the way, this is the only truly independant Amsoil test I've ever came across. Every other one has Amsoil's fingerprints all over it.

[HIVOLTAGE]

I have used AMSOIL for over 25 years in race engines to chain saws and it is one of the best oils available.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by nailhead425

I don't buy it.

And for good reason. The people of the Bobistheoilguy forum/oil analysis laboratories are secret agents sent to confuse the masses and convince them to buy cheap oil. Personally, I believe they are from the Secret Society of Automotive Mechanics (SSAM). If people buy the good stuff ($6+), they will never have engine problems and a lot of mechanics will be out of work. I've probably told you too much so I'll stop.

So much for $2 Havoline...

Ahh, an Amsoil promotional piece. So much for objective data.

[2002 Caddy]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

And for good reason. The people of the Bobistheoilguy forum/oil analysis laboratories are secret agents sent to confuse the masses and convince them to buy cheap oil. Personally, I believe they are from the Secret Society of Automotive Mechanics (SSAM). If people buy the good stuff ($6+), they will never have engine problems and a lot of mechanics will be out of work. I've probably told you too much so I'll stop.

Ahh, an Amsoil promotional piece. So much for objective data.

Thats funny I alway found BTOG to be FULL of Amsoil sales people pushing their product... Go to BTOG and say anything negative about Amsoil and they will ban you really fast...

BTW all of my cars have gotten whatever oil has been on sale at Walmart or Pep Boys.. $2 a quart... My cars are lucky if they get $0.90 a quart oil... And in over 25 years of driving and 600,000 miles I have NEVER had an oil related problem with any of the cars that I have owned... Maybe in some high strung turbo 4's these high end oils make sense... But in the V8 and V6's that I drive I have never had any issues with cheap stuff.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by 2002 Caddy

Thats funny I alway found BTOG to be FULL of Amsoil sales people pushing their product... Go to BTOG and say anything negative about Amsoil and they will ban you really fast...

Yeah, there are people that sell Amsoil and they will sometimes try to tell you good things about the product, but they don't bad mouth the objective results people have got using other products (many times with better results than Amsoil).

BTW all of my cars have gotten whatever oil has been on sale at Walmart or Pep Boys.. $2 a quart... My cars are lucky if they get $0.90 a quart oil... And in over 25 years of driving and 600,000 miles I have NEVER had an oil related problem with any of the cars that I have owned... Maybe in some high strung turbo 4's these high end oils make sense... But in the V8 and V6's that I drive I have never had any issues with cheap stuff.

I don't think you are alone. I can't say that I've ever heard of someone having engine troubles due to their oil not working properly. And just about everyone I know uses moderately priced oils.

[nailhead425]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

I don't think you are alone. I can't say that I've ever heard of someone having engine troubles due to their oil not working properly. And just about everyone I know uses moderately priced oils.

My Suburban had a bad 350 in it. Starved and sludged by Pennzoil. The previous owners swear by Pennzoil and use nothing else. They changed the oil every 3-4k along with the filter. It needed more than a 0.060" over bore to clean it up, so the block was trash. It had 100k on the engine.

The real question is how many folks have massive failures using Mobil 1?

Over 210,000 miles, I'll spend just under $1200 more to use Mobil 1. That's about $10 a month. Many people spend that much on the Lottery. I guess I gamble in a different way.

[jeremiah]

I run castrol gtx with ac delco and have no problems what so ever

[YukonAce]

Have a 99 Yukon with 280,000. Been using Amsoil since i got it.
Can't say it made a diff...I'll let you decide.
By the way, I use it in all my vehicles now

[73ChevelleSS]

Originally Posted by scooter10572

Ive run amsoil for years in a variety of engines and have never experienced any problems but have experienced better running engines,I run it in my Harley for approx 5 years and engine runs cooler trans shifts better and quieter.I pay 20 bucks to become a preffered cust thru amsoil and buy it at dealer cost.So its not much more expensive than any other syn oil.Btw Mobil 1 is not all that its cracked up to be,Ive seen independent testing on syn oils and mobil 1 generally comes in near the bottom in most categories,Im not saying its bad oil only that there are better oils.Btw Im a Chevrolet Master tech with 18 years exp.So I do have extensive knowledge of oils.

I need to go on my training path and check out this new class on engine oil.Is this class an IDL or is it a WBT?I also want to have "extensive knowledge" on oil.

[Ming]

I've had good luck with Royal Purple. No pressure tactics there. I just go in and ask for it at the local carwash/oil change places.