Will VE Win 'Wheels Car Of The Year' Award?

hq308 · 12-06-2006, 02:17 AM

I was just checking out the previous years winners on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheels_Car_of_the_Year) and I noticed the first of each new generation Commodore (VB, VN & VT) have won it. Will Wheels continue the tradition and award COTY to VE? What do think? I believe the winner will be announced at the end of January 2007.

**JoeT** · 12-06-2006, 05:14 AM

It deserves to win, but after Aurion won another award today i'm starting to wonder if Toyota has the press all wrapped up.

Butz · 12-06-2006, 05:29 AM

No, the almighty holy god on wheels aka Toyota Aurion will win the award.

commodorecoops · 12-06-2006, 07:27 AM

If the Omega didn't count, the Commodore would have the contest shot to pieces. This is the car that lets the whole team down. The 4L60-E and optional air-con in the Omega are the two things that could deny the VE the award. But surely they wouldn't give it to the Aurion. Unless of course they want everyone to cancel their subscriptions. I know I sure as hell will. I don't really care what wins it, as long as the Aurion doesn't. It is very average in every area except its engine and transmission. And you can still argue that the engine isn't the right one for the job, with nothing below 3500 revs. But remember 1973... Leyland P76 won... and 1982... when the Holden Camira won... and 1996, the Mitsubishi Magna... so I suppose there's half a chance. Oh and btw, the current score is 9 to Holden, 5 to Ford, and Toyota is yet to get off the mark

rkuk2k · 12-06-2006, 11:14 AM

I've got a wheels mag special edition dedicated to the VE, they love it and I reckon its a dead cert for the award

DanCBJMS1988 · 12-06-2006, 04:15 PM

It HAS to win.

Bvonscott · 12-06-2006, 05:43 PM

Why do they test the base commodore? HELLO THERE IS A FLAGSHIP VERSION!

DanCBJMS1988 · 12-06-2006, 07:53 PM

Because not everybody will buy the flagship version.

**mikmak** · 12-07-2006, 04:48 PM

Wheels car of the year tests the merits of all the models. Which will a be a pretty large task when you consider the "commodore" line up: Omega, Berlina, SV6, SS, SS-V, Calais (HFV6 and V8) Calais V (HFV6 and V8). Nine vehicles! You cant really cross section the line up with less than 3 vehicles either.

I wouldn't be too confident that Commodore will romp away with it, but the test is too concise to miss things like 4up torque through a hilly, curvy road circuit (which is a regular feature of COTY). This and space will count against the Aurion.

The problem is that they consider so much, it is exceptionally difficult to predict the winner. In fact it gets harder every year, but this time we have John Carey (deputy Editor and hard to please wheel nut), whom appreciated the value, durability and advancement of the VE Platform so much that he rated the Omega, his pick of the bunch.

BlokeMan · 12-15-2006, 05:22 AM

I hope it wins seeing as this is the only COTY that matters, but I'm not confident. Wheels can be pretty harsh when it comes to cost cutting like 4 speed auto's, cheap V6's.

Aurion. No way!

vt6banger · 12-15-2006, 07:00 AM

yep that 4sp auto is the clincher I think

**mikmak** · 12-15-2006, 09:06 AM

Its just a number! The 4 speed is plenty good enough for the average joe. I know they could do better, but cost is a consideration. Remember how nearly every model costs less (although I think that model name shuffling is more responsible for this)?

CaymanS · 12-15-2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmak

Its just a number! The 4 speed is plenty good enough for the average joe. I know they could do better, but cost is a consideration. Remember how nearly every model costs less (although I think that model name shuffling is more responsible for this)?

Oh trust me, Americans love to bash about cars with 4-speeds. It's either 5-speed (or 6-speed) or they'd rather walk. The general reception of the VE Commodore was amazing as expected and our guys at CSS love the Commodore and they despise the Aurion. I don't see what's special about the Aurion. It's just a tarted up Camry. It's the Omega version of the Commodore that turns me off but the rest is awesome and it deserves to win the award. I'd be surprised if it didn't as the Commodore seems to be really popular in Down Under.

commodorecoops · 12-17-2006, 05:12 AM

I'm pretty confident the Commodore has it in the bag, but then there's always the Caprice to take the award if the Commodore falls short.

RedVee8 · 12-26-2006, 05:48 AM

I think the VE will win, esp since the SV6 beat the Aurion in the jan07 test.

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12-06-2006, 02:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
hq308 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Drives: VT Commodore 5.0L VZ Commodore Wagon 3.6L HFV6 H Posts: 488	Will VE Win 'Wheels Car Of The Year' Award? I was just checking out the previous years winners on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheels_Car_of_the_Year) and I noticed the first of each new generation Commodore (VB, VN & VT) have won it. Will Wheels continue the tradition and award COTY to VE? What do think? I believe the winner will be announced at the end of January 2007. __________________ Current rides 1998 VT Holden Commodore 5.0 V8 2005 VZ Commodore Wagon HFV6 1974 HQ Holden 308 V8 http://www.hq308.com

12-06-2006, 05:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
JoeT GMI News Editor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 5,816	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? It deserves to win, but after Aurion won another award today i'm starting to wonder if Toyota has the press all wrapped up. __________________ Got any Holden info you want to tell? E-Mail me Follow GMInsidenews and myself on Twitter Join GMInsidenews on Facebook today!

12-06-2006, 05:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Butz 6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Old Miltia Posts: 6,539	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? No, the almighty holy god on wheels aka Toyota Aurion will win the award. __________________ (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") Down with the Anti-Smokers Nazis! Government stay away from my high-fructose corn syrup! Member of The: I will never buy an imported car in my life Club. I will never buy a locally built foreign car in my life Club. I only buy American cars that are built in America Club.

12-06-2006, 07:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
commodorecoops 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Drives: Holden VE Calais-V Posts: 159	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? If the Omega didn't count, the Commodore would have the contest shot to pieces. This is the car that lets the whole team down. The 4L60-E and optional air-con in the Omega are the two things that could deny the VE the award. But surely they wouldn't give it to the Aurion. Unless of course they want everyone to cancel their subscriptions. I know I sure as hell will. I don't really care what wins it, as long as the Aurion doesn't. It is very average in every area except its engine and transmission. And you can still argue that the engine isn't the right one for the job, with nothing below 3500 revs. But remember 1973... Leyland P76 won... and 1982... when the Holden Camira won... and 1996, the Mitsubishi Magna... so I suppose there's half a chance. Oh and btw, the current score is 9 to Holden, 5 to Ford, and Toyota is yet to get off the mark __________________ Holden VE Commodore - Go Like Never Before

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12-06-2006, 11:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
rkuk2k 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the world is my oyster Drives: 07 Disco TD5 Posts: 213	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? I've got a wheels mag special edition dedicated to the VE, they love it and I reckon its a dead cert for the award

12-06-2006, 04:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
DanCBJMS1988 6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pawtucket, RI, USA and Ottawa, ON, Canada Drives: none Posts: 3,765	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? It HAS to win. __________________ Θέλει αρετή και τόλμη η ελευθερία. (Ανδρέας Κάλβος)

12-06-2006, 05:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bvonscott 4.6 Liter Northstar V8 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Drives: 07 GMC SIERRA VORTECMAX Posts: 1,989	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? Why do they test the base commodore? HELLO THERE IS A FLAGSHIP VERSION! __________________ Member of the: I Will Never Buy a Japanese Car In My Life Club. www.BADBOYVETTES.com C6 and C6R rule!

12-06-2006, 07:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
DanCBJMS1988 6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pawtucket, RI, USA and Ottawa, ON, Canada Drives: none Posts: 3,765	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? Because not everybody will buy the flagship version. __________________ Θέλει αρετή και τόλμη η ελευθερία. (Ανδρέας Κάλβος)

12-07-2006, 04:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
mikmak GMI Australia Correspondent Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Paradise, Australia Drives: VZ Wagon and JSII sedan Posts: 11,592	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? Wheels car of the year tests the merits of all the models. Which will a be a pretty large task when you consider the "commodore" line up: Omega, Berlina, SV6, SS, SS-V, Calais (HFV6 and V8) Calais V (HFV6 and V8). Nine vehicles! You cant really cross section the line up with less than 3 vehicles either. I wouldn't be too confident that Commodore will romp away with it, but the test is too concise to miss things like 4up torque through a hilly, curvy road circuit (which is a regular feature of COTY). This and space will count against the Aurion. The problem is that they consider so much, it is exceptionally difficult to predict the winner. In fact it gets harder every year, but this time we have John Carey (deputy Editor and hard to please wheel nut), whom appreciated the value, durability and advancement of the VE Platform so much that he rated the Omega, his pick of the bunch. __________________ *READ GM International Operations 100 Day Scorecard!!It's official: I'm a twit. Follow me on Twitter!!***

12-15-2006, 05:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
BlokeMan 1.4 Liter Turbocharged ECOTEC Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Van Diemen's Land Drives: BA XT Wagon Posts: 98	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? I hope it wins seeing as this is the only COTY that matters, but I'm not confident. Wheels can be pretty harsh when it comes to cost cutting like 4 speed auto's, cheap V6's. Aurion. No way!

12-15-2006, 07:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
vt6banger 3.0 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: west oz Drives: 03 VY SS UTE M6 - 793 CAT - work Posts: 606	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? yep that 4sp auto is the clincher I think __________________ Current Ride VY SS UTE 5.7 MAN - 235 KW / VZ V6 3.6 / CAT 793 - 1400 KW

12-15-2006, 09:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
mikmak GMI Australia Correspondent Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Paradise, Australia Drives: VZ Wagon and JSII sedan Posts: 11,592	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? Its just a number! The 4 speed is plenty good enough for the average joe. I know they could do better, but cost is a consideration. Remember how nearly every model costs less (although I think that model name shuffling is more responsible for this)? __________________ *READ GM International Operations 100 Day Scorecard!!It's official: I'm a twit. Follow me on Twitter!!***

12-17-2006, 05:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
commodorecoops 2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Drives: Holden VE Calais-V Posts: 159	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? I'm pretty confident the Commodore has it in the bag, but then there's always the Caprice to take the award if the Commodore falls short. __________________ Holden VE Commodore - Go Like Never Before

12-26-2006, 05:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
RedVee8 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rosemeadow, NSW Australia Drives: 2009 CG Captiva; 2006 AH Astra; 1984 VH Commodore Posts: 2,545	Re: Will VE win Wheels car of the year award? I think the VE will win, esp since the SV6 beat the Aurion in the jan07 test. __________________ Current Holdens. VH Commodore Vacationer 253 V8; AH Astra CDX 1.8; CG09 Captiva LX 3.2V6 (work). Previous Holdens. 69 HT Kingswood 186; 75 HJ Premier 202; 77 TC Gemini; 85 JD Camira SL/E 1.8i; CG06 Captiva LX 3.2V6 Keep Holden On. Buick - Sporty Elegance

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