Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

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    Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?
    The Zeta drama continues at GM.
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    March 28, 2011
    By: Nick Saporito


    Zeta rumors have been the hot topic of General Motors’ enthusiasts and mainstream media since the first inklings of the return of the Camaro. Initially the platform was going to see production in North America, hosting an entire lineup of rear-wheel drive greatness. Then gas prices spiked the first time and GM’s cash position dwindled, thus killing the glorious plans. Fast-forward to today and drama still surrounds Zeta, but future plans are starting to become clearer.

    Since the demise of the Holden derived Pontiac G8 sedan, there has been much internal debate about bringing the Holden Commodore back to the North American market. GM’s high executive turn rate since emerging from its 2009 bankruptcy has not helped that matter, with each of the three post-bankruptcy CEO’s having a different position on the importation of Holden products.

    Back in September GMI first reported that Chevrolet was aspiring to have a Commodore-based sedan on the North American market. Internally the sedan has been referred to as “SS Sedan.” Initial reports had the car launching for the 2012 model-year, but that has since been pushed back to 2014 model year, likely to capitalize on the redesigned Commodore that will launch around the same time.

    According to documents obtained by GMI, the ‘SS Sedan’ is now operating as an approved program. The program is running under the code Z2SC and is expected to launch in North America in early 2013 as a 2014 model year vehicle. GMI was able to independently confirm the time frame with Holden sources as well.

    Perhaps the more interesting news is that GM is also considering the Holden Ute and Holden Commodore SportWagon for the North American market. Unlike the ‘SS Sedan,’ the Ute and SportWagon based models are not currently approved for production. If approved, the documents suggest the Ute would launch at the same time as the sedan, with the SportWagon launching later in the 2013 calendar year. The documents list the Ute based vehicle as ‘El Camino.’ The El Camino’s program code is Z2RC, while the SportWagon code is Z2WC.

    GMI expects that the approval of the El Camino and SportWagon will hinge on fuel prices in North America and potential profitability of the two models, as both would likely be very low volume products.

    In other Zeta news, GMI has also been able to confirm that the Caprice patrol vehicle is expected to have a second generation on the North American market starting in 2014 model year as well.

    It’s important to note that the Zeta program at GM has been a near constant source of drama internally. As our reporting has reflected, there has been a tremendous amount of back and forth about Zeta. GMI is, however, starting to see some consistency with regards to the future of the ‘SS Sedan.’
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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    So, will this SS sedan be replacing the Impala since it was do for a new one in 2013?
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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevroletGuy View Post
    So, will this SS sedan be replacing the Impala since it was do for a new one in 2013?
    No. Impala is remaining FWD for the forseeable future. This car will not come even close to a fraction of Impala volume.

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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Wonderful news, though the El Camino and Sport Wagon information is a bit of a shocker. I wonder if these products will both be sold as Chevrolets (which seems likely).

    Since the SS Sedan was always supposed to be more of a higher-end product, and since both the Ute and Sport Wagon already share a great deal with the Zeta range, can we assume that both the El Camino and the Wagon will also sport higher sticker prices to reflect the SS Sedan's "premium" position within Chevy's lineup?
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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    So Nick can you tell me the exact numbers on the Ute when it comes to how many will be coming over if it comes over?

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    Isn't April fool's Day on Friday??

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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Good news indeed. Still holding out for more info about the possible Buick Zeta.
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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    If GM knows it's going to be a very low volume product, what difference do fuel prices make?
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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Why isnt Holden just working on eAssist as well? Then, you wouldnt be able to worry about gas prices at all.

    Another thing I see going bad is the fact that Holden really dont design the cars for the cold weather. Just look at all the suspension complaints about the G8 and then try to find complaints about them in Commodores and Middle East Impala. They really dont exist.

    That said, if there is a El Camino, I would highly consider it as my next vehicle. It would fit my lifestyle perfectly.

    Copperhead, I would imagine they would import about 15-20k at MOST.

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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Mannnnnnnnnnnn,they've been teasing us with this for years now. Stop f*%kin' teasing us!

    .....but anyway, I'm interested in seeing how this is going to work. Are these products going to be Chevrolet's or Buicks? The sport image surely fit Chevrolet best, but if Zeta's are prosumed to be high end models, that would mean they would fit more in line with Buick. Chevrolet gets the Caprice, cool, I think a Buick could benefit from a spiced up Chinese Park Avenue at the top of their strong line-up to more compete with Lexus' LS model. The Ute will surely be an El Camino ( which is a good thing), but where would the sport wagon go?

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    Re: Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Why isnt Holden just working on eAssist as well? Then, you wouldnt be able to worry about gas prices at all.

    Another thing I see going bad is the fact that Holden really dont design the cars for the cold weather. Just look at all the suspension complaints about the G8 and then try to find complaints about them in Commodores and Middle East Impala. They really dont exist.

    That said, if there is a El Camino, I would highly consider it as my next vehicle. It would fit my lifestyle perfectly.

    Copperhead, I would imagine they would import about 15-20k at MOST.
    Yes yes, I had a feeling that it would come over in GTO-like numbers but I wanted to know the exact number. Why exact? I don't know I just want to.

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    Mrdenali no doubt has a hard on that even viagra couldnt match right now lol
    I ruined my phone and keyboard looking at this article. I'm a urologist and have never seen such a thing before.

    I'm buying a wagon!!!!!!

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