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Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Wagons Ho: Six Small Wagons Ready For Family Value
Mike McCarthy 23 May 2007 www.carpoint.com.au The extra space small wagons can deliver over their equivalent hatch models make them a welcome addition to the family armoury. Just a decade ago, no mid- to family-size model had a hope of making the big time without a wagon derivative in its catalogue. Of course, life was simpler then, with wagons' gender and role clearly defined. In recent times, though, the wagons' circle has been breeched, their genes stirred and market share eroded by stiff competition from hatchbacks and by the irrepressible influx of all-wheel drive softroaders. This is particularly evident in the small-to-medium wagon sector, where prices range from under $20,000 to about $32K or so. In some minds, last year's demise of the Toyota Corolla wagon signalled a sizeable hiccup for the small-medium carry-all class. But the ongoing models show that while compact wagons have become as varied in shape (if not size) as they are in versatility, they're as functional as ever when haulin's a'callin'. Click here to continue article ![]() ![]() Holden Viva (top) and Astra (above) wagons, plus Mitsubishi Lancer & Hyundai Tucson (below) and Subaru Impreza & Dodge Caliber (bottom) |
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Every one of those wagons/hatchbacks above looks ugly.
Ugh. My eyes.
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
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The Astra actually has redeeming features unlike the Caliber. The Astra is definitely the nicest of a mediocre bunch. Lancer, Caliber, Viva, Tucson = crap, Impreza = good but too old to take seriously. Last edited by Ssom : 05-23-2007 at 01:43 AM. |
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
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Ostentatious, overstated, chrome-plated 'truck fronts' on a 4-cylinder econobox is just not big here. It's like a 90 lb weakling stuffing tissues down his sleeves to look like he has big biceps. Most people would rather have a aerodynamic lowline front so it doesn't feel like you're pushing a barndoor into a headwind. |
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
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It's also got no chrome if you look at the picture again. |
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Definitely the Astra (I didn't know they finally upgraded the engine). Whilst the Viva is good value for money, I would make the stretch for better dynamics. As Ssom said, the impreza is gettin too old. Step in side and it's obvious. Even the Viva looks better inside. The Tucson should be smashed into with the Caliber until neither can ever run again. Lancer is functional.
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Hmmm... clicking to see the prices...
Starting prices: Viva $19,490 Lancer $22,449 Astra $23,790 Caliber $23,990 Impreza $24,440 Tuscon $24,990 I could easily live with the Viva for 3 grand in savings over the Lancer, and 4 to 5 grand over the others. That's a decent chunk of change. The Viva would be excellent for a small, young family... throw the extra dough into a college fund for the young ones and be happy with a simple yet appealing little wagon.
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Have taken the Viva wagon for a test ride last year, for the money it's not a bad buy, Wife who is an Auto driver couldn't live with lack of power, previous car was a Commodore. She ended up buying a Mits 380 and loves it.
I just don't get women!!!
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Impreza for me.
With Astra close behind. Everything else is crappy, and not even considerable imo. Lancer is good for the 10 year warranty though |
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
I must be the only here that likes the Caliber. Yes the interior plastics are a let down, but apart from that, I really like it. Give me a Caliber turbo diesel and I'd be very happy.
I wouldn't buy one over an Astra wagon though, but over the Lancer, Impreza, Viva and Tucson? I sure would!! The Tucson is just ugly, Impreza it too old and I don't care for the Viva at all. Lancer is good too. |
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Re: Review: Holden Viva & Astra Wagons vs The Competitions Small Wagons
Worth noting though, that in NZ we don't get the AH Astra wagon, so my choice is pretty null in the real world for me.
Hence I'm going outside the box and voting for a 3 year old TS Astra wagon. ![]() Or a Nissan Wingroad ST-L (A bit more pricey at around $30k, but still nice) ![]() OR a Focus 1.8 TDCI wagon (Actually that is my choice) ![]() Last edited by Ssom : 05-23-2007 at 04:00 AM. |
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