Ford Falcon GT Cobra Return Confirmed?

**JoeT** · 07-01-2007, 05:54 AM

FPV Cobra GT Falcon Confirmed

Australian Car Advice
3 October 2007
www.caradvice.com.au

A few weeks ago we discussed rumours that Ford was planning a limited edition ‘Cobra GT Falcon’ to commemorate the 30th Anniversary of Allan Moffat and Colin Bond’s historic 1977 form-finish at Bathurst.

Sources inside Ford have today confirmed the rumours. From what we have been told, there will be 400 sedans and 100 utes.

They will be powered by a 302kW BOSS V8 with 540Nm.

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Power Increase For FPV V8 Models

Joe Kenwright
2 July 2007
www.carpoint.com.au

Ford's performance arm is fighting back with a massaged and more powerful V8.

Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV) is back on the front foot. As the last of its limited edition GT 40th Anniversary sedans are delivered to dealers in July, the Prodrive-operated Ford performance arm is gearing up for a non-stop roll out of revised models planned to regain momentum ahead of its all-new Orion-based range in 2008.

The big news is the first power increase for the Boss V8-engined models since 2003, set for a launch as early as mid-August.

Just as HSV recently revived the 307kW figure in line with the capacity of Holden's first 307 V8 option in 1968, FPV is expected to announce a power increase of 12kW over the current 290kW, for a total of 302kW -- the same as the capacity for Ford's rival V8 option in 1968.

Although this increased power figure has already been linked to the launch of a new Cobra limited edition for this year's Sydney Motor Show and Bathurst in October, it makes no sense for FPV to reserve such an engine upgrade solely for a limited edition Cobra so late in the BF Series II model life. Simply, FPV cannot afford to wait until October for its next special editions.

It is significant that FPV has yet to announce the availability of its R-Spec suspension option on the mainstream FPV range after previewing it in March this year. After this handling option was fitted to all GT 40th Anniversary models, FPV suggested that the R-Spec option would then become available on all its sedans once production of the GT 40th Anniversary model ended.

When the R-Spec option amounted to no more than shock absorbers, a badge, extra paint accents and a larger auto transmission cooler, not everyone was holding their breath for this development. However, the R-Spec option will gain a huge measure of credibility when the 302kW engine is announced as part of a special R-Spec production run before the Cobra is revealed in October.

FPV is also expected to announce other revisions that will impact on all its mainstream models.

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Ford Cobra: Set To Strike

Neil McDonald
29 June 2007
www.carsguide.com.au

The Cobra name is expected to return for Bathurst.

No one is confirming, or denying it, but Ford is working to bring back the Cobra name.

Indicators are strong that Ford may release a limited run of special-edition Cobra-badged Falcons in time for this year's Bathurst 1000 endurance race.

CARSguide understands that 300 V8 sedans and 150 utes will be built to coincide with the marathon race.

The cars are believed to have 302kW V8s and will be sold under the FPV banner as “spec R” cars, which means they have upgraded suspensions and high-performance brakes.

Earlier this year, FPV released 200 “spec R” Falcon GTs to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Falcon GT.

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'Super Roo' Icon To Return For Orion

Joe Kenwright
3 July 2007
www.carpoint.com.au

Ford's Aussie hotrod caricature is set to return in 2008 on the flanks of a special Orion.

Although it will not appear on a modern day GT-HO first-up, Ford and Ford Performance Vehicles are planning to resurrect the Super Roo caricature.

Indeed, it now looks almost certain the Super Roo emblem, which was expected to adorn the GT 40th Anniversary, will make a star re-appearance on a very special Orion-based model from FPV in 2008.

The special Super Roo cartoon, which was a uniquely Australian variation of the cartoon figures that appeared on US muscle cars, made its first production appearance as part of the bold new sidewinder stripes on the XW Falcon GT 351 in 1969.

The stripes and cartoon were first previewed on a two-door motor show concept model with an XT Falcon front earlier in that year.

The Super Roo icon was one of the exclusively Australian performance cues added to the locally assembled GT versions of the Escort, Cortina and Capri. The XY Falcon GT was the last GT to feature the Super Roo after the XA GT was launched in 1972 without stripes.

Although the icon cartoon featured on four different performance models from Ford, only one of which was based on a local Falcon, it is now inextricably linked to the XY GT and more specifically, the GT-HO Phase III (XY GT pictured).

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1978 Ford Falcon Cobras

mikmak · 07-01-2007, 07:33 AM

The 40th anniversary GT "40" from FPV was a total disgrace to celebrate 40 years since the release of the mightiest Aussie muscle car. I hope this one is a lot better. Bring back the Goss stripes too!

**JoeT** · 07-03-2007, 09:31 PM

I've added a new article at top about the old 'Super Roo' logo. Looks like Ford and FPV are resorting to nostalgic marketing to sell their dating Falcon.

ford&holden · 07-03-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeT

I've added a new article at top about the old 'Super Roo' logo. Looks like Ford and FPV are resorting to nostalgic marketing to sell their dating Falcon.

The article mentions the 'super roo' logo on the 'orion' which would be the NEW falcon not the current model, correct??

**JoeT** · 07-03-2007, 10:27 PM

I'm talking about now. Isn't it funny that all this Cobra & Super Roo talk has come out now when FPV needs a lift and the Orion isn't even due out for ages yet?
Doesn't this nostalgic talk get you all proud and emotional about Ford? Don't you just want to rush out a little bit more than before to buy that GT-P you've always wanted? I'm sure Ford and FPV are hoping so.

ford&holden · 07-03-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeT

I'm talking about now. Isn't it funny that all this Cobra & Super Roo talk has come out now when FPV needs a lift and the Orion isn't even due out for ages yet?
Doesn't this nostalgic talk get you all proud and emotional about Ford? Don't you just want to rush out a little bit more than before to buy that GT-P you've always wanted? I'm sure Ford and FPV are hoping so.

I see. So your saying that the 'current' range will get a sales boost with talk of the 'super roo' logo for 'orion' next year?...ok.
I think your over reacting just a little, i don't see the big deal.
Marketing is marketing, HSV doesn't market thier cars?

**JoeT** · 07-03-2007, 10:46 PM

I'm talking more about a BF Cobra, but this 'super roo' talk is all part of a nostalgic marketing push by Ford & FPV to boost sales.

chinamonty · 07-04-2007, 12:45 AM

Interesting that they would hold over the "super-roo" til the Orion. You would expect they would have something up their sleeve but I think the "super-roo" is now not relevant as it sounds similar to Subaru which was hardly a problem when it was first used. I still like the emblem and I did a carictature of a Silver Cloud Rolls and a Super Roo emblem on my Chemistry book at school. Thats a long time ago now to have any relevance.

ford&holden · 07-04-2007, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeT

I'm talking more about a BF Cobra, but this 'super roo' talk is all part of a nostalgic marketing push by Ford & FPV to boost sales.

I disagree. I don't see how nostalgic chatter will boost sales of FPVs current older models, prior to the new Orion models next year.

**JoeT** · 07-04-2007, 01:04 AM

I hope it will boost BF Ford and FPV sales and I think thats what they are aiming for with all this talk, but thats just my opinion and I could be wrong.

AusCalais · 07-04-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ford&holden

I disagree. I don't see how nostalgic chatter will boost sales of FPVs current older models, prior to the new Orion models next year.

but importantly this chatter gets them space in newspapers, mags and blogs, etc, now ....this inane stuff happens every time Ford Marketing goes on it's off-site in the Dandenongs (or wherever) and does brain-storming

I think the cobra would look good (even if it's a yankee import), but the time for Super-Roo logo has long passed and I can't help feeling buyers today would think it a bit of a wank rather than aspirational....still, they will probably sell a couple that will be worth a fortune in 2040.

Generation IV · 07-04-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

I disagree. I don't see how nostalgic chatter will boost sales of FPVs current older models, prior to the new Orion models next year.

I'm afraid that's all Ford has. Their marketing division is useless, they've given such great campaigns such as: "thousands of dogs following a ute", lol, now that was perfection (sarcasm). If I worked for Ford i would hope to god they brought back the super roo badge. Its actually a pretty good idea, they (ford) seem to like this inspiration of reviving legendary nameplates. i.e: the GTS and possible future halo-model the GTS-R 427. Isn't their talk of a power boost for the FPV V8s before the Orion is launched? I think Fords boosting to 302kW to uncover an old rivalry between the Ford 302 and Holden 307. Maybe the Super Roo will show its head then.

ford&holden · 07-04-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Generation IV

I'm afraid that's all Ford has. Their marketing division is useless, they've given such great campaigns such as: "thousands of dogs following a ute", lol, now that was perfection (sarcasm). If I worked for Ford i would hope to god they brought back the super roo badge. Its actually a pretty good idea, they (ford) seem to like this inspiration of reviving legendary nameplates. i.e: the GTS and possible future halo-model the GTS-R 427. Isn't their talk of a power boost for the FPV V8s before the Orion is launched? I think Fords boosting to 302kW to uncover an old rivalry between the Ford 302 and Holden 307. Maybe the Super Roo will show its head then.

I agree FPVs V8s are lacking in outright straight line squirt compared to HSVs V8s...never denied that. Do you really think thats the primary reason they are top selling at the moment?

But Lucky HSV has V8s, otherwise they wouldn't have much to crow about, they can't do performance V6s, yet they now try turbo 4cyl Astras?? makes no sense to me...

By the way, before VE HSVs were released FPV and HSV were neck and neck sales wise, and thats with FPV having less models available for sale.
So, it's not a huge surprise how sales are booming on the back of new models while their primary opposition are running out old stock.

Pure V8 power DOES not sell these vehicles, history would prove that.

When Ford AUS gets the new 5.8 and 6.2 V8s then you will see FPV hit an equal footing in relation to off the line power, but i couldn't care less, i don't think sales would alter all that much.
The total package is what counts and HSVs current line up is the best they have ever had, for once they have a vehicle that has the handling dynamics thats matches the power outputs.

JBsZ06 · 07-04-2007, 08:54 PM

This is why GM sold off Allision transmissions...so it could compete with building the DSG Dual clutch units for the world including GM...either that or GM needs to buy DSG technology from others to surplant the traditional torque convertor automatic..(better performance/gas mileage and better emissions)

**JoeT** · 10-02-2007, 10:08 PM

FPV Cobra GT Falcon Confirmed

Australian Car Advice
3 October 2007
www.caradvice.com.au

A few weeks ago we discussed rumours that Ford was planning a limited edition ‘Cobra GT Falcon’ to commemorate the 30th Anniversary of Allan Moffat and Colin Bond’s historic 1977 form-finish at Bathurst.

Sources inside Ford have today confirmed the rumours. From what we have been told, there will be 400 sedans and 100 utes.

They will be powered by a 302kW BOSS V8 with 540Nm.

Click here to continue article

07-01-2007, 05:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,854	Ford Falcon GT Cobra Return Confirmed? FPV Cobra GT Falcon Confirmed Australian Car Advice 3 October 2007 www.caradvice.com.au A few weeks ago we discussed rumours that Ford was planning a limited edition ‘Cobra GT Falcon’ to commemorate the 30th Anniversary of Allan Moffat and Colin Bond’s historic 1977 form-finish at Bathurst. Sources inside Ford have today confirmed the rumours. From what we have been told, there will be 400 sedans and 100 utes. They will be powered by a 302kW BOSS V8 with 540Nm. Click here to continue article Power Increase For FPV V8 Models Joe Kenwright 2 July 2007 www.carpoint.com.au Ford's performance arm is fighting back with a massaged and more powerful V8. Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV) is back on the front foot. As the last of its limited edition GT 40th Anniversary sedans are delivered to dealers in July, the Prodrive-operated Ford performance arm is gearing up for a non-stop roll out of revised models planned to regain momentum ahead of its all-new Orion-based range in 2008. The big news is the first power increase for the Boss V8-engined models since 2003, set for a launch as early as mid-August. Just as HSV recently revived the 307kW figure in line with the capacity of Holden's first 307 V8 option in 1968, FPV is expected to announce a power increase of 12kW over the current 290kW, for a total of 302kW -- the same as the capacity for Ford's rival V8 option in 1968. Although this increased power figure has already been linked to the launch of a new Cobra limited edition for this year's Sydney Motor Show and Bathurst in October, it makes no sense for FPV to reserve such an engine upgrade solely for a limited edition Cobra so late in the BF Series II model life. Simply, FPV cannot afford to wait until October for its next special editions. It is significant that FPV has yet to announce the availability of its R-Spec suspension option on the mainstream FPV range after previewing it in March this year. After this handling option was fitted to all GT 40th Anniversary models, FPV suggested that the R-Spec option would then become available on all its sedans once production of the GT 40th Anniversary model ended. When the R-Spec option amounted to no more than shock absorbers, a badge, extra paint accents and a larger auto transmission cooler, not everyone was holding their breath for this development. However, the R-Spec option will gain a huge measure of credibility when the 302kW engine is announced as part of a special R-Spec production run before the Cobra is revealed in October. FPV is also expected to announce other revisions that will impact on all its mainstream models. Click here to continue article Ford Cobra: Set To Strike Neil McDonald 29 June 2007 www.carsguide.com.au The Cobra name is expected to return for Bathurst. No one is confirming, or denying it, but Ford is working to bring back the Cobra name. Indicators are strong that Ford may release a limited run of special-edition Cobra-badged Falcons in time for this year's Bathurst 1000 endurance race. CARSguide understands that 300 V8 sedans and 150 utes will be built to coincide with the marathon race. The cars are believed to have 302kW V8s and will be sold under the FPV banner as “spec R” cars, which means they have upgraded suspensions and high-performance brakes. Earlier this year, FPV released 200 “spec R” Falcon GTs to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Falcon GT. Click here to continue article 'Super Roo' Icon To Return For Orion Joe Kenwright 3 July 2007 www.carpoint.com.au Ford's Aussie hotrod caricature is set to return in 2008 on the flanks of a special Orion. Although it will not appear on a modern day GT-HO first-up, Ford and Ford Performance Vehicles are planning to resurrect the Super Roo caricature. Indeed, it now looks almost certain the Super Roo emblem, which was expected to adorn the GT 40th Anniversary, will make a star re-appearance on a very special Orion-based model from FPV in 2008. The special Super Roo cartoon, which was a uniquely Australian variation of the cartoon figures that appeared on US muscle cars, made its first production appearance as part of the bold new sidewinder stripes on the XW Falcon GT 351 in 1969. The stripes and cartoon were first previewed on a two-door motor show concept model with an XT Falcon front earlier in that year. The Super Roo icon was one of the exclusively Australian performance cues added to the locally assembled GT versions of the Escort, Cortina and Capri. The XY Falcon GT was the last GT to feature the Super Roo after the XA GT was launched in 1972 without stripes. Although the icon cartoon featured on four different performance models from Ford, only one of which was based on a local Falcon, it is now inextricably linked to the XY GT and more specifically, the GT-HO Phase III (XY GT pictured). Click here to continue article 1978 Ford Falcon Cobras Last edited by JoeT : 10-02-2007 at 10:11 PM.

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mikmak 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Paradise, Australia Drives: VZ Wagon and JSII sedan Posts: 8,033	Re: Ford Cobra Expected To Return For Bathurst The 40th anniversary GT "40" from FPV was a total disgrace to celebrate 40 years since the release of the mightiest Aussie muscle car. I hope this one is a lot better. Bring back the Goss stripes too! __________________ You start a conversation you cant even finish it. You're talkin a lot, but you're not sayin anything. When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed. Say something once, why say it again?

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JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,854	Re: Power Increase For FPV V8 Models & Ford Cobra Expected To Return For Bathurst I've added a new article at top about the old 'Super Roo' logo. Looks like Ford and FPV are resorting to nostalgic marketing to sell their dating Falcon. Last edited by JoeT : 07-03-2007 at 11:33 PM.

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JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,854	Re: Power Increase For FPV V8 Models, Plus Ford Cobra & 'Super Roo' Expected To Return I'm talking about now. Isn't it funny that all this Cobra & Super Roo talk has come out now when FPV needs a lift and the Orion isn't even due out for ages yet? Doesn't this nostalgic talk get you all proud and emotional about Ford? Don't you just want to rush out a little bit more than before to buy that GT-P you've always wanted? I'm sure Ford and FPV are hoping so. __________________ Last edited by JoeT : 07-03-2007 at 10:31 PM.

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JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,854	Re: Power Increase For FPV V8 Models, Plus Ford Cobra & 'Super Roo' Expected To Return I'm talking more about a BF Cobra, but this 'super roo' talk is all part of a nostalgic marketing push by Ford & FPV to boost sales. __________________

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chinamonty 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shenzhen, China Drives: Buses and ferries. Company cars Audi A4, A6 and Posts: 1,463	Re: Power Increase For FPV V8 Models, Plus Ford Cobra & 'Super Roo' Expected To Return Interesting that they would hold over the "super-roo" til the Orion. You would expect they would have something up their sleeve but I think the "super-roo" is now not relevant as it sounds similar to Subaru which was hardly a problem when it was first used. I still like the emblem and I did a carictature of a Silver Cloud Rolls and a Super Roo emblem on my Chemistry book at school. Thats a long time ago now to have any relevance.

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JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,854	Re: Power Increase For FPV V8 Models, Plus Ford Cobra & 'Super Roo' Expected To Return I hope it will boost BF Ford and FPV sales and I think thats what they are aiming for with all this talk, but thats just my opinion and I could be wrong. __________________

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JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,854	Re: Power Increase For FPV V8 Models, Plus Ford Cobra & 'Super Roo' Expected To Return FPV Cobra GT Falcon Confirmed Australian Car Advice 3 October 2007 www.caradvice.com.au A few weeks ago we discussed rumours that Ford was planning a limited edition ‘Cobra GT Falcon’ to commemorate the 30th Anniversary of Allan Moffat and Colin Bond’s historic 1977 form-finish at Bathurst. Sources inside Ford have today confirmed the rumours. From what we have been told, there will be 400 sedans and 100 utes. They will be powered by a 302kW BOSS V8 with 540Nm. Click here to continue article Last edited by JoeT : 10-03-2007 at 12:49 AM.

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