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60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
Test drive: Holden's First Car
Tony Davis 14 March 2008 www.drive.com.au It's sixty years since the first Holden rolled off the production line. Tony Davis test drives the car that launched the Australian motor industry. As road tests go, it wasn't ideal. I was restricted to closed roads around factory buildings with the nervous "owner" sitting next to me watching every move. It was more a case of exploring his limits rather than the vehicle's - "slow down" and "stop here, someone's walking out!" were favourite expressions - but it was still a magical experience. Why? Because it involved what is possibly the most valuable Australian motor vehicle in existence, the car that Holden calls Old Number One. It's the very machine a starched-looking Ben Chifley stood beside in November 1948, clutching his hat and declaring in one of those curiously English-sounding, squeaky black-and-white Australian voices: "Good luck to the Holden car and good luck to all that ride therein." It was the very Gawler cream-coloured sedan that launched a successful Australian motor industry. Nobody else had wholly manufactured a unique car here as anything other than a short prelude to bankruptcy. Click here to continue article My VE Commodore Omega Review Isszy 13 March 2008 www.gminsidenews.com The car in question is a 2007 Commodore Omega from Thrifty car rentals. It has just over 15,000km on the clock. It is part of our family until my wife's car comes back from the panel beaters. My first impression of the car was clouded by the fact that they delivered it 2 hours late and so I was late for work. Anyway, the car seemed noisy compared with my Berlina, and the handling seemed really sloppy. A quick stop at a servo showed that the right rear had about 12psi in it, so I pumped them all up to 38psi and the handling and ride improved dramatically. The rear window is really small, and most of the view in the rear view mirror seems to be pillar. It did not take long to get used to though. I know this is the base model, but the plastics seemed dull and hard, and look like they would attract dust. Now after a few days I am getting used to it, but I like the VY interior much better. The run to work (about 15km in suburban traffic) was uneventful, and I could have been driving just about anything. To add some spice, I took a lunch break the next day up Mountain Highway from The Basin to Olinda. This is a nice windy mountain road about 10km long, where I spent many a night driving to put my kids to sleep when they were babies – they liked the car and usually went to sleep when all else failed. Click here to continue article MIMS: Holden Celebrates 60th In Style At Melbourne International Motor Show MIMS: Monaro's Back! Holden Coupe 60 Unvealed! Review: Holden Commodore SV6 ![]() You've come a long way baby! 1948 Holden 48-215 (FX) and 2008 VE Commodore Omega ![]() Last edited by JoeT : 03-14-2008 at 01:29 AM. |
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore Omega
No it had a small six in in. Australian's have never really been big on small fours, even now the best selling car is the commodore with either a 3.6 v6 of 6.0 v8
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore Omega
The Corolla is a "shoe box" compared with the interior space of a V6 Commodore
Mike Last edited by mmciau : 03-14-2008 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Keyboard can't spel |
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
God, were Holdens ever up-to-date with their designs?
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
I prefer the BAS of the '48 Pontiac.
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
The 1948 Holden reminds me of a Buick!
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
In 1948 the junior GM cars were in the last year of the pre-war bodystyles, while Cadillac and the senior Buicks already swiched to the new body style. Studebaker, Hudson, Kaiser-Fraiser, Tucker (heh), they were all new by 1948.
This was, what I presume to be, a clean slate Holden design. Why debut looking old?
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
The first Holden is actually based on a pre war deseign for a small chevy.
Holden did have a clean slate design but this was cheaper. Must some of you have a go at anything Holden? sheeesh.
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
Not me...I like Holdens!!! ![]()
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
The thing to remember about the 48/215 is that it was designed to be affordable transport for the masses so it utilised a borrowed Chev design and was built to be a low cost car for Australian families.
The FJ update which followed featured a revised grille (similar to the one used on the Efijy concept which was meant to be a 21st interpretation of the FJ, you can see what I mean in my avatar) to take some of the utilitarian look out of the car, and each model that followed was more up to date. A lot of cars released in the late 1940s were simply a continuation of pre war designs which simply underwent final validation before being put into production. Its a car thats held in high esteem here in Australia and is quite possibly kick started the idea of building cars that were designed and engineered here, as opposed to just assembled here.
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
Appropriately it looks like an earlier Chevy with a Buick grille.
Happy 60th Holden!
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
I was joking hence the winking fellow after my sentence.
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Re: 60th Anniversary Review: 1948 Holden 48-215 vs 2008 Holden Commodore
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My mother's 48-215 was a rusted-out rocket that went like the clappers!!!! It was the early "knee-action" shock absorbers built into the top wishbone/upper mounting point. It had a massive hand formed anti-roll bar that was affixed within the lower front wishbones. You could rag out a set of 5-90 x 15 Cross Ply tyres in a very short period of time. It was rusted out across the front foot-well adjacent to the gearbox demountable hatch. The under door sills were full of bog. The body twisted so badly when cornering hard that the front doors would fly open - "it almost rubbed the door handles on the bitumen!!!!!" It was started by the famous 6 volt system, it was 'cammed", it was capable of being "double declutched at 40 mph into bottom gear", it was expertedly repainted a two-tone green by the previous owner with a course-haired broom, and the handbrake handle was the best place for mum to hang her handbag. Parking on steep incline/declines meant driving the front wheel into the gutter or placing the 9" red brick behind a wheel!!! And two hard applications on the brakes meant that you'd better have a lot of faith in the gearbox to slow you down!! And above all, it was a much loved means of family transport. It's final goodbye was felt by all as you thought you'd parted with an integral member of the family. It is a fond memory1 Then I got the FJ ute!! Mike |
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