370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet

**JoeT** · 03-06-2008, 06:31 AM

HSV Power Play Not Over Yet

David Hassall
6 March 2008
www.goauto.com.au

HSV boss says local power war hasn't ended yet, as it eyes a 7.0 V8 and supercharging.

HSV is not about to follow the lead of AMG by calling for an amnesty on rising horsepower outputs, saying there is still more to come from Holden’s hot-car factory.

Responding to comments made to GoAuto in January by AMG’s boss Volker Mornhinweg that Mercedes’ high-performance partner will not chase big power gains, HSV boss Scott Grant told us at the Melbourne motor show last week that HSV’s lifeblood is developing new products.

“I think there’s a little bit more to go for us,” he said.

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MIMS: HSV W427 370kW LS7 Unvealed!
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HSV’s new 370kW/640Nm 7.0-litre W427

ponchoman49 · 03-06-2008, 07:21 AM

Not a pretty topic with me when oil is at 105/barrel!

Olds88 · 03-06-2008, 07:24 AM

Since when did AMG call a cease fire on HP wars?

That's not very German of them

?

***If you can't tell that's a joke***

Rick_VT · 03-06-2008, 07:28 AM

Cant wait till Wheels or Motor do some comparisons of this car its a absolute beast, i do hope that HSV has some kind of Hybrid system in there future maybe BAS+ or 2 Mode cause with all these monster powerplants there fuel consumption will be quite high

Jedi · 03-06-2008, 07:42 AM

Remember, corvettes get around 30 mpg when driven sensibly. Throw the big power at them!

MechEng · 03-06-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi

Remember, corvettes get around 30 mpg when driven sensibly. Throw the big power at them!

Well true but this vehicle will be 1500 - 2000lbs heavier than the Vette and will be lucky to get 15mpg.

Ultra Magnus · 03-06-2008, 08:40 AM

Didnt GM decide supercharging the LS7 was a bad idea? Im all for it but still this sounds like a grenade waiting for someone to pull the pin.

Jedi · 03-06-2008, 09:47 AM

They only have till 2020 to get as many cool cars on the road as they can! V8 by the masses!

GMusa · 03-06-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olds88

Since when did AMG call a cease fire on HP wars?

That's not very German of them

?

***If you can't tell that's a joke***

lol i like that!

jbernie · 03-06-2008, 12:41 PM

Well given HSV and FPV had been avoiding going over 300kw/400hp for a long time I don't see what the big deal is, the German's have their v10 & v12 engines and have been going over 300kw for some time.

It is about time Holden or Ford produced a vehicle that went over 300kw.

ctaylorzl1 · 03-06-2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Magnus

Didnt GM decide supercharging the LS7 was a bad idea? Im all for it but still this sounds like a grenade waiting for someone to pull the pin.

Yeah, didnt GM's supercharged LS7 mule burn to the ground? Or mabey it was LPE?

jbernie · 03-06-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctaylorzl1

Yeah, didnt GM's supercharged LS7 mule burn to the ground? Or mabey it was LPE?

It was the turbocharged ZR1 mule that burned.

BBDOS CV8 · 03-06-2008, 04:39 PM

Given the W427 will likely never be used for daily driving, I can't see this being a concern.

Holden wheeled out the W427 for the show as that was the most advanced version of the three 500hp motor mules they had.

I would say if the response in expressions of interest which they were collecting at the Melbourne Motor Show wasn't there, they may simply go direct to the LSA version they are known to be working on, which is probably more sensible, not only because it is cheaper as an engine, but has better low-rpm characteristics than the cammy LS7 which suit a big car better.

That gives them the option of going to the LS9 for a OTT vehicle.

jzEllis · 03-06-2008, 08:35 PM

DO IT DO IT DO IT!!! BRING IT HOLDEN!! show em what a good ol supposedly low tech pushrod V8 will do! MAKE SOME US SOME FUTURE ROAD LEGENDS!!

ColinOpseth · 03-06-2008, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponchoman49

Not a pretty topic with me when oil is at 105/barrel!

Quit bitching. If you drink Starbucks you're paying upwards of $16 per gallon.

03-06-2008, 06:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
JoeT GMI's Holden Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wollongong, Australia Drives: 2003 Holden Monaro CV8 Posts: 4,718	370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet HSV Power Play Not Over Yet David Hassall 6 March 2008 www.goauto.com.au HSV boss says local power war hasn't ended yet, as it eyes a 7.0 V8 and supercharging. HSV is not about to follow the lead of AMG by calling for an amnesty on rising horsepower outputs, saying there is still more to come from Holden’s hot-car factory. Responding to comments made to GoAuto in January by AMG’s boss Volker Mornhinweg that Mercedes’ high-performance partner will not chase big power gains, HSV boss Scott Grant told us at the Melbourne motor show last week that HSV’s lifeblood is developing new products. “I think there’s a little bit more to go for us,” he said. Click here to continue article MIMS: HSV W427 370kW LS7 Unvealed! Holden Special Vehicles Website HSV’s new 370kW/640Nm 7.0-litre W427 Last edited by JoeT : 03-06-2008 at 07:03 AM.

03-06-2008, 07:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
ponchoman49 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,132	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Not a pretty topic with me when oil is at 105/barrel!

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Olds88 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: May 2007 Drives: 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche 1991 Chevrolet Caprice W Posts: 604	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Since when did AMG call a cease fire on HP wars? That's not very German of them ? *If you can't tell that's a joke* __________________ Current <> 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche LT and 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Wagon - 162,000 miles and counting Past <> 1992 Mercury Grand Marquis, 1984 Oldsmobile Delta88, 1994 Chevrolet S10 Blazer (now my brother's, 132k on it), 1990 Buick Estate Wagon Future <> 2008/9 Dodge Challenger R/T, 1959 Buick Invicta Dream <>1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442 Convertible, 1987 Buick Grand National GNX, 20xx RWD BOF Buick Roadmaster

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Rick_VT 3.8 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: australia Drives: VT Acclaim series 1 Posts: 332	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Cant wait till Wheels or Motor do some comparisons of this car its a absolute beast, i do hope that HSV has some kind of Hybrid system in there future maybe BAS+ or 2 Mode cause with all these monster powerplants there fuel consumption will be quite high

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Jedi 2.5L Iron Duke Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Remember, corvettes get around 30 mpg when driven sensibly. Throw the big power at them!

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03-06-2008, 08:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ultra Magnus 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Autobot City Posts: 571	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Didnt GM decide supercharging the LS7 was a bad idea? Im all for it but still this sounds like a grenade waiting for someone to pull the pin. __________________ They said it couldn't be done. That is until I did it.

03-06-2008, 09:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jedi 2.5L Iron Duke Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet They only have till 2020 to get as many cool cars on the road as they can! V8 by the masses!

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jbernie 3.6 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado, USA Drives: 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero Posts: 1,190	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Well given HSV and FPV had been avoiding going over 300kw/400hp for a long time I don't see what the big deal is, the German's have their v10 & v12 engines and have been going over 300kw for some time. It is about time Holden or Ford produced a vehicle that went over 300kw. __________________ Talk is cheap, sometimes it is on sale!

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BBDOS CV8 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne (no, not that one!) Drives: Monaro Barbados 6M Posts: 1,346	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet Given the W427 will likely never be used for daily driving, I can't see this being a concern. Holden wheeled out the W427 for the show as that was the most advanced version of the three 500hp motor mules they had. I would say if the response in expressions of interest which they were collecting at the Melbourne Motor Show wasn't there, they may simply go direct to the LSA version they are known to be working on, which is probably more sensible, not only because it is cheaper as an engine, but has better low-rpm characteristics than the cammy LS7 which suit a big car better. That gives them the option of going to the LS9 for a OTT vehicle. __________________ Barbados Series III CV8 'VT Coupe' 245kW LS1 - T56 six-speed manual

03-06-2008, 08:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
jzEllis 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 797	Re: 370kW LS7 Not Enough! HSV Power Play Not Over Just Yet DO IT DO IT DO IT!!! BRING IT HOLDEN!! show em what a good ol supposedly low tech pushrod V8 will do! MAKE SOME US SOME FUTURE ROAD LEGENDS!!

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