2013 Holden Cruze: higher-performance variant part of small car update
Caradvice.com.au
By Daniel DeGasperi
November 28th, 2012
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2013 Holden Cruze: higher-performance variant part of small car update
Caradvice.com.au
By Daniel DeGasperi
November 28th, 2012
Read more at the LINKOriginally Posted by Caradvice
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Butz (11-28-2012)
So why can't "local engineers" in the US make any significant changes to the 200K+ units we sell per year?
OK, Reuss, you worked for Holden, how about getting Akerson to unclench his butt cheeks and getting all those changes to the NA Cruze?
No excuses left. Either make the changes here or quit. All of them.
While you're at it, how about doing something about the antifreeze smell plaguing the tiny turbo? Maybe Holden engineers can handle something Chevy engineers are too incompetent to do themselves.
Butz (11-28-2012)
Hopefully Chevrolet here will find a way they can do things with that more powerful version to stick it in Cruzes with bowtie logos...At the other end of the Cruze range, a higher-performance variant will debut, featuring a more powerful 1.4-litre turbo engine. Cheetham said Holden engineers found they could do “a lot of things with that [engine]” to increase power and torque beyond the current car’s 103kW and 200Nm.
Maybe Sonics/Barinas too...
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camaro_freak (11-27-2012),steve333 (11-28-2012)
Hang on guys before we draw and quarter Chev and GMNA engineers lets give them a channce to reveal their updates which are also coming i believe?
Perhaps they are just playing cards a little closer to the chest![]()
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Live001 (11-28-2012)
I hope you are right. I really do
But I doubt it - we all know GM blows their load on almost every bit of news dealing with upcoming product - releasing info, images about upcoming technology and vehicles far too early. It is amazing they've held back the Corvette and Silverado MCEs so long without spilling the beans. So maybe they are learning after all![]()
Hope it works, sales have been slow this year and the base engine needs some more get up and go.
And if they want hot, shove the 2.0T under the bonnet and make it look more mini-SS.
Past:
- 1989 VN Commodore Exec. wagon V6 SES spec.
- 1994 VR Commodore Acclaim wagon V6, RIP (1994-1998)
- 1987 Nissan Bluebird Ultra sedan: Le Lemon
Current:
- 1998 VT Commodore 50th Anniversary wagon
- 2000 Holden Jackaroo SE V6
- 2001 Holden Jackaroo SE TD
- 2008 Toyota Hiace D4D LWB
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2013 VF SV6 TT Sportwagon
^^^^^ So too the VF/Chev SS it to this point is probably the best kept secret especially with lack of unclad (car bras n padding) camo cars this close to launch. Yes the NASCAR will be seen this week but will only be representative of the front end and nothing more.. I'd give my left bean for a look at the interior. Hmmm better make that my brothers, he's got three boys already![]()
mikmak (11-28-2012)
GM sells the same engine/tune around the world - and the US will get this too. I have just come back from driving the wagon, and it didn't have the new engine but it did have Australian-spec current suspension tune despite Korean origin and I can confirm it does handle almost exactly like local sedans and hatches. This is about to be superceded by Australian-spec tune v3.0.
It also had the new Australian-spec trans tune 2nd Gen which is going worldwide - and this is an improvement on what happened previously, too. It helps the engine stay in it's effective powerband which aids tractability. To the point where you need cruise control on the flat at 100km/h or the car will run away and creep to illegal speeds! The performance isn't quite transformed, but it is vastly improved and - coupled with the new engine spec I was told they were working on about a year ago, should bring the car right up to scratch. The wagon is a real sweetie of a deal, too. Looker, as well as highly practical.
I think the reputation of the 1.8 amongst Australian small car buyers means that Holden I think should of dropped the engine. As long as it remains, it will drag down the image of the rest of the range.
I have never seen a vehicle in the last 5 years which has gained such a negative powertrain perception amongst buyers, even though you can get the brilliant diesel and 1.4 turbo.
mikmak (11-28-2012)
And a lot don't give two hoots and buy the 1.8 because they don't want to spend the extra coin.
There must be enough of them to justify the engine staying.
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I recon there's nothing that can be done to the 1.8L it's a crap engine nobody I know and yes I know a quite a few people with Cruzes or test drove a cruze and bought something else same thing from all of them the 1.8L is crap big reason why some of them bought other brands.
Why do you think Opel don't sell a 1.8L Astra here in Australia..
The 1.4L should have more power but still it's not a barn storming engine because of the weight of the cruze, my pick of the Cruze engines is the diesel.
It's better on fuel then the 1.8 or 1.4 and my opinon goes harder then them, the torque of the diesel is amazing.
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The 1.8 in the heavy Cruze is an embarrassment and the engineers that drove this car in testing phase and thought that it was acceptable should hang their heads in shame.
I really believe the Cruze would be a top 2 car if it had a decent engine as the base engine.
steve333 (11-28-2012)
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