Shanghai: Combine a Torrent with an RX350 and you get...

[Robert Ryan]

Are they not capable of coming up with their own designs

Their culture as a whole has produced little that is original. So no surprise they produce cloned cars.

[MonaroSS]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

Their culture as a whole has produced little that is original. So no surprise they produce cloned cars.

I hope by "their culture" you are referring to the recent Communist Chinese Culture and not the last 5000 years of Chinese Culture which has produced some of the most original cultural, scientific, artistic and military phenomenon’s the world has known. Things like:

'Paper', 'Printing', 'Newspaper Publishing', 'Gunpowder', 'Magnetic Compass', 'Plough', 'Rockets', 'Wheelbarrow', 'Kites', 'Decimal System', 'Pasta', 'Calculator' to name a few.

And the sciences of astronomy, physics, chemistry, meteorology, seismology, technology, engineering, and mathematics all trace their early origins to China.

[samkung]

Originally Posted by MonaroSS

I hope by "their culture" you are referring to the recent Communist Chinese Culture and not the last 5000 years of Chinese Culture which has produced some of the most original cultural, scientific, artistic and military phenomenon’s the world has known. Things like:

'Paper', 'Printing', 'Newspaper Publishing', 'Gunpowder', 'Magnetic Compass', 'Plough', 'Rockets', 'Wheelbarrow', 'Kites', 'Decimal System', 'Pasta', 'Calculator' to name a few.

And the sciences of astronomy, physics, chemistry, meteorology, seismology, technology, engineering, and mathematics all trace their early origins to China.

Thanks alot

[1931Chevy]

And This Is Why The Us Government Shouldn't Let The Chinese Sell Their Cars Here, They Have To Copy Everything Next Thing We Will See Is A Cadillac Merged With A Lexus

[Robert Ryan]

If their Culture is so original how come they need to copy cars and virtually everything else in Modern China.? I cannot believe a culture that supposedly is "original" stops being original and starts copying everything slavishly.

[Bravada]

The US was once one of the most innovative and fastest-developing countries of the world, while Americans were honest and hardworking people...

[Robert Ryan]

The US was once one of the most innovative and fastest-developing countries of the world, while Americans were honest and hardworking people

They still are innovative. China is not.

[MonaroSS]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

If their Culture is so original how come they need to copy cars and virtually everything else in Modern China.? I cannot believe a culture that supposedly is "original" stops being original and starts copying everything slavishly.

Didn't you hear about the Communist take-over of China last century. They called it a Cultural Revolution. Chinese used to wear the most beautiful colored silk cloths covered in very original artwork, their fashion was highly developed. The affluent had houses carved and painted with great original works of art.

The Communists made every man woman and child wear plain grey uniforms and live in cinderblock high rise flats. Anyone who insisted on indulging in non-productive activity (i.e. creative or artistic) was shot or sent to a prison camp for re-education.

That's a pretty good way to make a culture STOP being original.

[genjy]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

If their Culture is so original how come they need to copy cars and virtually everything else in Modern China.? I cannot believe a culture that supposedly is "original" stops being original and starts copying everything slavishly.

Government and economics. A lot of Chinese businesses can't afford to be creative or isn't rewarded to be creative (or is rewarded to be not creative). Doing what it takes to survive takes precedence over everything else.

[Robert Ryan]

That's a pretty good way to make a culture STOP being original.

What originality was there stopped well before the Communists took over. Shanghai was a strange copy of a European City , virtually everything else "new" was copied. It was not only the Chinese , but the Japanese and Koreans. Orginality is not one of the strengths of these countries.

[samkung]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

What originality was there stopped well before the Communists took over. Shanghai was a strange copy of a European City , virtually everything else "new" was copied. It was not only the Chinese , but the Japanese and Koreans. Orginality is not one of the strengths of these countries.

haha thats what u dont understand, Shanghai was leased to foreign nations until WW2, so of coz it will look like a european city, part of shanghai has a french feeling, another has Russian and some British
i also remember there is a city in northern city looks like a german city, cant remember the name tho

[MonaroSS]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

What originality was there stopped well before the Communists took over. Shanghai was a strange copy of a European City , virtually everything else "new" was copied. It was not only the Chinese , but the Japanese and Koreans. Orginality is not one of the strengths of these countries.

I think you are confusing fashion with copying.

Because the first interaction between East and West was only historically a recent thing, the Japanese and Chinese were fascinated with all things Western. It became very fashionable to follow Western styles. But the same was true in the West. In England and Europe they couldn't get enough of Eastern art and design in the form of silk cloth prints, ceramic wares, furniture carvings etc. They even built pavilions and buildings reflecting the then new fashionable Chinese and Japanese motifs.

It was just novelty which wore off on both sides.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Bravada

The US was once one of the most innovative and fastest-developing countries of the world, while Americans were honest and hardworking people...

America still is, obvious by our lead in Semiconductors (more specifically CPUs and GPUs). Even the PS3 (Japanese) uses an IBM PowerPC based CPU, and an nVidia 7-Series based GPU.
We've got the Corvette, a good example that America can make a good handling car for a minimum R&D costs. The good Ol' USA still leads in software, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Real, etc..
I could go on and on.
But if things keep on going they way they are, we're poised to end being a 3rd world nation

[BrickTamland]

Originally Posted by JonathanRohr

Pontiexus - Designed for Perfection!

Lexiac - The Passionate Pursuit of Action!

I actually think Lexiac sounds more like a brand of milk of magnesia.

[Robert Ryan]

It was just novelty which wore off on both sides.

Well it still goes on from the Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Thai etc side. Intially the Japanese started it in the 1880's as from a technological point of view they were barely catching up to Western Technology of the 13th Century. Then China and later Korea. The shock of Admiral Byrd and others from the West showed they were the "Barbarians" technologically. They are still doing it today, plagiarizing western orginal research .
Look at some of the topics on these forums, the "Chinese" Copycat cars; The Japanese "F150" the Tundra the list goes on.