NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC - Page 3

svx92 · 01-13-2008, 05:05 PM

wow- I love the Alfa Romeo-esque seats just dont think I can get past the VW emblem though. Maybe after a rough 12 month initial depreciation I could justufy the cash expense for an overpriced mainstream brand. At $29K for a 12 month old 12K trade-in I'd take this VW over a new on the lot Malibu LTZ

sigma · 01-13-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lichtronamo

I priced up a standard Passat VR6 4Motion to $40,500. The Passat CC is supposed to be on top of the range. Ouch.

Ouch is right. Let me try to decide... CTS or Passat... CTS or Passat. I'll take the CTS thank you very much.

Bravada · 01-13-2008, 05:27 PM

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice... As somebody already observed, the front end seems to be too "wide", which emphasizes the already pronounced transverse-FWD issues (somehow VW can't get it right, Passat's been having this problem for many years now), but the rest is realy sweet. Interior is spot-on - VW finally came up with an attractive steering wheel! GM should reverse-engineer the interior ASAP for a G6 update!

As to marketing issues:
1. With VW obsessed with naming every other version of their vehicles something else (Eos anyone?), keeping the Passat moniker seems really weird to me and will confuse rather than help. Some people in this thread already think it is a new Passat (whereas it is a new model meant to slot above the current Passat). There is much potential in either reviving a classic name (Quantum?) or coming up with a new one here.

2. Not an Audi - for sure it is not, Audis continue to go longitudinal, with the new A4/S4 platform combining the benefits of FWD and RWD. The Passat platform is actually a longer Golf platform (take note, GM!), so this is a vastly different car. That said, why the A4 got a rather formal roofline and the VW got a CC is rather strange...

3. OTOH, a "cheapo" CLS might be a good way to carve yet another niche in the entry-level-luxury market (while VW's might come accross as overprices, the CLS is VERY expensive).

4. VW's "sporty" brand is supposedly to get a Passat-sized car - what is its value proposition going to be then?

Anyway, GM should better take note. With at least 5 Epsilon cars, they need to find ways to differentiate and cover the most bases (rather than the most Enterprise lots). That said, Insignia's (talk about bad brand management) roofline looks like the rear headroom was cancelled too. The question is, though, where are people buying Vectras supposed to go?

jcgable · 01-13-2008, 05:27 PM

I like the normal sedan more.

Flyingbunnys · 01-13-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrickTamland

It's good looking, but an answer to a question no one asked.

"Hans, shouldn't ve be designing zees car fur Audi?"

"Nein, ze Americans vant an even more overpriced Passat."

hahaha

:l mao:

Dead on mate, with you 100%

powervette · 01-13-2008, 05:40 PM

months of announcing production of a jaw-dropping CLS fighter and all we see is a Passat with softer body lines. I would take the new A4,A5 or CTS over this any time.

mikmak · 01-13-2008, 05:42 PM

Wow! That's an expensive Sebring.

Dammit! Butz, you beat me to it.

Interior is nice, exterior is icky.

telo · 01-13-2008, 05:52 PM

Looks good. The front end seems to be missing something, but overall, much nicer then the current gen.

Bggriffi · 01-13-2008, 06:28 PM

I think its a very sleek looking car. Now how much will it cost?

PontiacBixler · 01-13-2008, 07:02 PM

Holy BMW meets Mercedes!

jzEllis · 01-13-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrickTamland

It's good looking, but an answer to a question no one asked.

"Hans, shouldn't ve be designing zees car fur Audi?"

"Nein, ze Americans vant an even more overpriced Passat."

lol well put!

Ultimate1 · 01-13-2008, 07:17 PM

Looks very very good.

jzEllis · 01-13-2008, 07:17 PM

still, it's a very handsome car.

jzEllis · 01-13-2008, 07:19 PM

i have to admit, it's a very handsome car.

ctaylorzl1 · 01-13-2008, 07:49 PM

I love it, but with the added size(and probably price), I think it will need a little more than the 3.6 V6. Would be cool to see the 4.2 V8 in it!

01-13-2008, 05:05 PM	#31 (permalink)
svx92 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 158	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC wow- I love the Alfa Romeo-esque seats just dont think I can get past the VW emblem though. Maybe after a rough 12 month initial depreciation I could justufy the cash expense for an overpriced mainstream brand. At $29K for a 12 month old 12K trade-in I'd take this VW over a new on the lot Malibu LTZ

01-13-2008, 05:27 PM	#33 (permalink)
Bravada 70 MPG Two Mode Saturn Hybrid Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 10,870	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice... As somebody already observed, the front end seems to be too "wide", which emphasizes the already pronounced transverse-FWD issues (somehow VW can't get it right, Passat's been having this problem for many years now), but the rest is realy sweet. Interior is spot-on - VW finally came up with an attractive steering wheel! GM should reverse-engineer the interior ASAP for a G6 update! As to marketing issues: 1. With VW obsessed with naming every other version of their vehicles something else (Eos anyone?), keeping the Passat moniker seems really weird to me and will confuse rather than help. Some people in this thread already think it is a new Passat (whereas it is a new model meant to slot above the current Passat). There is much potential in either reviving a classic name (Quantum?) or coming up with a new one here. 2. Not an Audi - for sure it is not, Audis continue to go longitudinal, with the new A4/S4 platform combining the benefits of FWD and RWD. The Passat platform is actually a longer Golf platform (take note, GM!), so this is a vastly different car. That said, why the A4 got a rather formal roofline and the VW got a CC is rather strange... 3. OTOH, a "cheapo" CLS might be a good way to carve yet another niche in the entry-level-luxury market (while VW's might come accross as overprices, the CLS is VERY expensive). 4. VW's "sporty" brand is supposedly to get a Passat-sized car - what is its value proposition going to be then? Anyway, GM should better take note. With at least 5 Epsilon cars, they need to find ways to differentiate and cover the most bases (rather than the most Enterprise lots). That said, Insignia's (talk about bad brand management) roofline looks like the rear headroom was cancelled too. The question is, though, where are people buying Vectras supposed to go?

01-13-2008, 05:27 PM	#34 (permalink)
jcgable 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 264	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC I like the normal sedan more.

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powervette 4.4 Liter Supercharged Northstar Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Heart of Europe Posts: 2,208	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC months of announcing production of a jaw-dropping CLS fighter and all we see is a Passat with softer body lines. I would take the new A4,A5 or CTS over this any time. __________________

01-13-2008, 05:42 PM	#37 (permalink)
mikmak 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Paradise, Australia Drives: VZ Wagon and JSII sedan Posts: 8,025	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC Wow! That's an expensive Sebring. Dammit! Butz, you beat me to it. Interior is nice, exterior is icky. __________________ You start a conversation you cant even finish it. You're talkin a lot, but you're not sayin anything. When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed. Say something once, why say it again? Last edited by mikmak : 01-13-2008 at 05:43 PM. Reason: curses

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01-13-2008, 05:52 PM	#38 (permalink)
telo 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: CANADA Drives: 2008 Chev Equinox Sport AWD Posts: 281	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC Looks good. The front end seems to be missing something, but overall, much nicer then the current gen.

01-13-2008, 06:28 PM	#39 (permalink)
Bggriffi 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jackson, MS Drives: 2004 Acura TSX Posts: 234	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC I think its a very sleek looking car. Now how much will it cost?

01-13-2008, 07:02 PM	#40 (permalink)
PontiacBixler 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Drives: 2005 Pontiac G6 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Posts: 912	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC Holy BMW meets Mercedes! __________________ God, I still can't believe that the GTO is getting yet another chance while the Firebird has to sit out yet again.... How many times is the b@st@rd child going to get at bat before the venerated veteran gets to return to the game??? Lutz, Wagoner.... time to go to the retirement home.... You've left your keys in the fridge one too many times.

01-13-2008, 07:17 PM	#42 (permalink)
Ultimate1 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 948	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC Looks very very good. __________________ Ultimate1's Saturn Aura

01-13-2008, 07:17 PM	#43 (permalink)
jzEllis 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 865	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC still, it's a very handsome car.

01-13-2008, 07:19 PM	#44 (permalink)
jzEllis 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 865	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC i have to admit, it's a very handsome car.

01-13-2008, 07:49 PM	#45 (permalink)
ctaylorzl1 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Drives: 1996 Dodge 3500 CTD 4x4 1992 Camaro RS 305 Posts: 3,303	Re: NAIAS 08: VW Passat CC I love it, but with the added size(and probably price), I think it will need a little more than the 3.6 V6. Would be cool to see the 4.2 V8 in it! __________________

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