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Old 01-08-2008, 11:46 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Saab 9-4X Biopower

we need to move this to the autoshow coverage forum.
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Is it just a concept or is this how the real thing will look like?
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That's pretty blatant and not what GM is doing now. They're really trying to ensure each vehicle is sufficiently differentiated.
ummmm those cars aren't on the same platform and looking nothing alike in my opinion... wheel wells, fender flares, window shapes, rear view mirrors... all different

should have picked the Caprice and the Olds and Buick counterparts... those only had grille differences.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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That's pretty blatant and not what GM is doing now. They're really trying to ensure each vehicle is sufficiently differentiated.
I hope you're kidding - the top picture is a RWD car and the bottom a FWD car on two completely different platforms.
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I like it!!! What are the specs!?
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:56 AM   #21 (permalink)
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looks better than the Caddy Vue rebadge we just saw.
You're kidding, right? Not only is it not a rebadge, it's not better than the Cadillac.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:07 PM   #22 (permalink)
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As I've said before, I don't "get" the whole Saab thing, but it looks OK.

What does tick me off a bit, is that GM can spend the money to completely re-skin Theta to make a Saab, but they only do a front clip and a little rear end work to make an Escalade out of a Tahoe. They KNOW they are going to sell a bunch of Escalades and they KNOW they are going to make a bunch of money on each one. Imagine how dramatic a full Cadillac body on an Escalade would be when you have that much room to work with.
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http://www.motivemagazine.com/galler...-4x%20BioPower
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I like how none of these cars has quarter windows on the back doors. Cleans up the styling a lot! It's one thing I really like about Audis.

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i think they look very different.

excellent, now i'm excited!
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So you prefer this SAAB Vue rebadge?
These aren't rebadges!!! Just because they are on the same platform, they are rebadges? They don't look anything like the Vue. GM did it with the Lambdas, they can't do it with these smaller crossovers?!

You want a rebadge, look at the Cobalt/G5, now thats a rebadge!

I like both in different ways, I think there is a market for both to exist.

Plus I would so much rather drive this Caddy over the X3 or the upcoming X1. It just screams style in a niche thats pretty much bland. Anyone know when it will be out?
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Not bad at all. Considering it looks to me like it's very similar to the Provoke concept, I think I like the looks of this better...
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I think it works overall and is LONG overdue. I hope that they pay attention to the little details that all Saab fans notice.
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looks better than the Caddy Vue rebadge we just saw.
Agreed, this product got a much more distinctive look than the Provoq. Caddy should showcase a SRX replacement with the Provoq's drivetrain details... a RWD-based E-flex variant... now that would be cool. Or AWD with 4 hub motors... whatever... the Provoq just looks like they rebodied the plug-in VUE we've been expecting.
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That's pretty blatant and not what GM is doing now. They're really trying to ensure each vehicle is sufficiently differentiated.
If THAT is what's remembered as rebadging then it's sad because the Chevrolet picture is a rear wheel drive and the Cadillac shown is a much smaller front wheel drive [disaster that marks one of the make's worst ever eras]. That's not rebading at all -- two totally different cars.

I like the Theta-based Caddy although aren't they supposed to get a version of the Saab 9-4x? I didn't realize that was Theta-based too. If it is, I think they've done a great job with both of their designs.
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