Geneva 08: Facelifted Opel Zafira

[Snafu_SS]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

This would be a cool car...but that would make the third people carrier for Saturn.
Looks really good, and a great idea for a small family car.
The engines would be poorly underpowerd for America. The Astra's 1.8 would need to be standard, with a 2.2 VVT optional.

I think they could easily get rid of the Outlook...Chevrolet GMC and Buick have that covered very nicely, but I know the chances of that one happening are 0

Zafira makes more sense in a time of high gas prices and enviro conscious society....

A lot of people (my self included) are rethinking excess in their automobile preferences

[kmacleod]

As much as I like this version, I'll pass and wait for the new Mono CAB design set to debut in the next couple of years.......

Ken

[EllwynX]

Originally Posted by Butz

I don't see how you can see the interior as cheap? I think it is very nice and elegant.
The whole car looks a lot nicer now.

I like the interior myself. Doesn't look any cheaper than any other vehicle in it's category.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by CJ Thunder

Looks like a taller Astra and a competitor for the Mazda 5, should have been a Saturn besides the Outlook. I wonder what would have sold more though?

I think Saturn can forget about the Outlook. GM doesn't need 4 of the Lambdas. 3 is plenty.

Originally Posted by NoNameDenton

I would definitely like to see that engine show up in some US GM vehicles

Dream on. There won't be any new diesels over here for a while. Not until they figure out how to meet the new regs, without the costly urea injection.

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 Re

This would be a cool car...but that would make the third people carrier for Saturn.

Huh? You mean Relay, Outlook and this? The Relay is dead. The Oultook could be soon, hopefully with this replacing it. But the rumors are that won't happen until the next gen of the Zafira...2010 or 2011, I think. Maybe 2012. That's too long IMO. We need it now! And does GM still make the 2.2L? I thought everything switched tot he 2.4L.

And I really hope they change the name if they bring it here. Though, I guess Saturn is GM's only division that could pull off a name like Zafira

[stevecmh]

this is what we are renting when we go to Germany.. it looks great.

I hope it will be a Saturn

[NoNameDenton]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

I think Saturn can forget about the Outlook. GM doesn't need 4 of the Lambdas. 3 is plenty.



Dream on. There won't be any new diesels over here for a while. Not until they figure out how to meet the new regs, without the costly urea injection.

Huh? You mean Relay, Outlook and this? The Relay is dead. The Oultook could be soon, hopefully with this replacing it. But the rumors are that won't happen until the next gen of the Zafira...2010 or 2011, I think. Maybe 2012. That's too long IMO. We need it now! And does GM still make the 2.2L? I thought everything switched tot he 2.4L.

And I really hope they change the name if they bring it here. Though, I guess Saturn is GM's only division that could pull off a name like Zafira

The could couple twin particle filters hooked together, or find out how Honda does it, because they do not use urea for the diesels coming here

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

And I really hope they change the name if they bring it here. Though, I guess Saturn is GM's only division that could pull off a name like Zafira

Saturn's had a history of odd names.

[logansowner]

I think the designers took a detour into Ugly town.

[NoNameDenton]

Originally Posted by logansowner

I think the designers took a detour into Ugly town.

What are you smoking, that is not a bad looking lil vehicle

[FenwickHockey65]

It looks a hell of a lot nicer than the minivans we have now.

[Toto]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

And does GM still make the 2.2L? I thought everything switched tot he 2.4L.

Yes, but only as a Direct Injection with 155hp (Zafira, Vectra and Signum).

[GMJoe]

Originally Posted by montrealvue

Hopefully they keep it much the same as shown if/when it comes over and joins the Saturn lineup.

Bob Lutz has already said this will join the CHEVY line up next year ,not Saturn.

[ChevroletRevived]

Looks nice! I could see it doing well in the US (most likely the next generation). If it's built in the US it might be able to make a small amount of money, but most importantly it would get entry level type buyers into a GM vehicle. I know it would sell much better as Chevrolet though....

[NoNameDenton]

Originally Posted by ChevroletRevived

Looks nice! I could see it doing well in the US (most likely the next generation). If it's built in the US it might be able to make a small amount of money, but most importantly it would get entry level type buyers into a GM vehicle. I know it would sell much better as Chevrolet though....

But if it did tank, better it tanked in smaller Saturn numbers then larger Chevy numbers. I am not saying it will, but you have to be careful with such vehicles.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Snafu_SS

I think they could easily get rid of the Outlook...Chevrolet GMC and Buick have that covered very nicely, but I know the chances of that one happening are 0

Actually that is the plan if I'm not mistaken.