CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt

tool46n2 · 01-07-2008, 04:46 PM

Don't know if this has been posted yet but thought I would share.

http://gizmodo.com/341731/first-shot...-volt-hydrogen

FenwickHockey65 · 01-07-2008, 05:18 PM

Looks like all they need are hydrogen refueling stations and the Hydrogen Volts would be fine.

PontiacBixler · 01-07-2008, 05:34 PM

What I find funny is that everyone keeps commenting in the media about how the biggest obstacle to Hydrogen is that there is no infrastructure in place... I wish I could be there every time someone says that and thinks that reason is the killing deathblow to Hydrogen and smack the living crap out of them.

How do you think Gas Stations got everywhere???? Have they ALWAYS been around?????
NO YOU STUPID %#&@s!
Gas stations had to start out somewhere too....

If the automakers all made 1 Hydrogen vehicle in every brand, you would see Hydrogen Stations become the next gold rush. That right there is a monopoly and a nice niche market. I would hope that Mobil/Sunoco/Citgo and all the other Gas Stations would not get involved in offering a Hydrogen pump at their stations because I could see them trying their hardest to destroy it from the inside out.

FenwickHockey65 · 01-07-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PontiacBixler

What I find funny is that everyone keeps commenting in the media about how the biggest obstacle to Hydrogen is that there is no infrastructure in place... I wish I could be there every time someone says that and thinks that reason is the killing deathblow to Hydrogen and smack the living crap out of them.

How do you think Gas Stations got everywhere???? Have they ALWAYS been around?????
NO YOU STUPID %#&@s!
Gas stations had to start out somewhere too....

If the automakers all made 1 Hydrogen vehicle in every brand, you would see Hydrogen Stations become the next gold rush. That right there is a monopoly and a nice niche market. I would hope that Mobil/Sunoco/Citgo and all the other Gas Stations would not get involved in offering a Hydrogen pump at their stations because I could see them trying their hardest to destroy it from the inside out.

Sooo...you're saying that we should all start Hydrogen refueling stations and make a ton of money! Genius!!!!

igotzzoom · 01-07-2008, 06:20 PM

Hydrogen will not become a viable option until there is widespread adoption of nuclear power. It's simply too inefficient to produce and extract (except with nuclear).

slowinthefastlane · 01-07-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PontiacBixler

What I find funny is that everyone keeps commenting in the media about how the biggest obstacle to Hydrogen is that there is no infrastructure in place... I wish I could be there every time someone says that and thinks that reason is the killing deathblow to Hydrogen and smack the living crap out of them.

They also forget the fact that hydrogen could be manufactured in your garage with water and electricity. It won't be efficient or fast, but it could be done in a pinch. For instance, if you're a commuter way out in the middle of nowhere, you could have your hydrogen station making hydrogen all day. You could then come home, plug in your car and fill it up. This is extra awesome for folks in sunny states who could feed their home hydrogen stations with solar power.

It's way harder to refine your compost into gasoline or make your own biodiesel. Greasel, maybe - but only if you eat a lot of fries.

KIDDIESEL79 · 01-07-2008, 08:51 PM

Theese pics don't phase me. I want a profile shot because it looks like they are giving away the more aerodynamic look GM is going for.

rsinsel · 01-07-2008, 09:07 PM

Why not make all Gm dealers hydrogen fueling stations at first. Imagine the foot traffic it would generate.

Smaart Aas Saabr · 01-07-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PontiacBixler

What I find funny is that everyone keeps commenting in the media about how the biggest obstacle to Hydrogen is that there is no infrastructure in place... I wish I could be there every time someone says that and thinks that reason is the killing deathblow to Hydrogen and smack the living crap out of them.

How do you think Gas Stations got everywhere???? Have they ALWAYS been around?????
NO YOU STUPID %#&@s!
Gas stations had to start out somewhere too....

If the automakers all made 1 Hydrogen vehicle in every brand, you would see Hydrogen Stations become the next gold rush. That right there is a monopoly and a nice niche market. I would hope that Mobil/Sunoco/Citgo and all the other Gas Stations would not get involved in offering a Hydrogen pump at their stations because I could see them trying their hardest to destroy it from the inside out.

I'd be really surprised if that happened. If the cars appeared those companies would put a hydrogen pump as soon as it was viable. Don't forget where most of the hydrogen comes from, it comes from ExxonMobil and friends

GMusa · 01-07-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rsinsel

Why not make all Gm dealers hydrogen fueling stations at first. Imagine the foot traffic it would generate.

That is a very interesting thought.. and maybe one GM should look into!

Hurricane · 01-08-2008, 07:22 AM

Very interesting photos!

Snafu_SS · 01-08-2008, 07:45 AM

This kind of screams Saturn Vue with an edgy Cadillac grill...The interior is looking great. But why can't the exterior be a bit less Vue?

Saturn69 · 01-08-2008, 09:49 AM

Did anyone else notice the electric motors in the rear hubs and the IRS? This one is AWD....hmmm...so is the Provoq.

JoeliusZ28 · 01-08-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snafu_SS

Well if we decided to give the environment the finger and go on carelessly...would we really be on top then?

Honestly...we're better than that. This issue is about bad as Democrats and Republicans....Both sides have their extremists, and they will never see eye to eye. Then somewhere in the middle is the rational thinking, and compromise that make good things happen.

we're definitely not on the bottom as far as environmental issues go.

I agree with you but the guy has a point. Being a world power means we need to do things for ourselves more than we are. Everything comes at a cost. I think one thing the left-wing extremists need to realize is that there is no way for us not to destroy the world we live in.

being green is great, but most people who are green dont know what the definition of being green is. Being green is showing respect for the environment in every way possible SHORT of lowering your standard of living.

01-07-2008, 04:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
tool46n2 Walking Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5	CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Don't know if this has been posted yet but thought I would share. http://gizmodo.com/341731/first-shot...-volt-hydrogen

01-07-2008, 05:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
FenwickHockey65 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: West Chester, OH Drives: Chevrolet Malibu LS, GMC Envoy SLE, GMC Sonoma SLS Posts: 5,422	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Looks like all they need are hydrogen refueling stations and the Hydrogen Volts would be fine. __________________ Proud to drive American. Proud to drive GM. Current Cars: 2007 Chevrolet Malibu LS: 2.2L ECOTEC I-4 2003 GMC Envoy SLE: 4.2L Vortec 4200 I-6 1998 GMC Sonoma SLS Ext. Cab: 4.3L Vortec 4300 V6 Former Cars: 1993 Saturn SW2 (1993-2006, 243,000 miles) 1989 GMC Safari SLT (1989-2003, 293,000 miles) Future Car: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2LT RS: 3.6L DI VVT V6

01-07-2008, 05:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
PontiacBixler 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Drives: 2005 Pontiac G6 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Posts: 905	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt What I find funny is that everyone keeps commenting in the media about how the biggest obstacle to Hydrogen is that there is no infrastructure in place... I wish I could be there every time someone says that and thinks that reason is the killing deathblow to Hydrogen and smack the living crap out of them. How do you think Gas Stations got everywhere???? Have they ALWAYS been around????? NO YOU STUPID %#&@s! Gas stations had to start out somewhere too.... If the automakers all made 1 Hydrogen vehicle in every brand, you would see Hydrogen Stations become the next gold rush. That right there is a monopoly and a nice niche market. I would hope that Mobil/Sunoco/Citgo and all the other Gas Stations would not get involved in offering a Hydrogen pump at their stations because I could see them trying their hardest to destroy it from the inside out. __________________ God, I still can't believe that the GTO is getting yet another chance while the Firebird has to sit out yet again.... How many times is the b@st@rd child going to get at bat before the venerated veteran gets to return to the game??? Lutz, Wagoner.... time to go to the retirement home.... You've left your keys in the fridge one too many times.

01-07-2008, 06:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
igotzzoom 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lake Forest, CA Drives: 2003 Mazda Protege 5 Posts: 224	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Hydrogen will not become a viable option until there is widespread adoption of nuclear power. It's simply too inefficient to produce and extract (except with nuclear).

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KIDDIESEL79 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 804	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Theese pics don't phase me. I want a profile shot because it looks like they are giving away the more aerodynamic look GM is going for.

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01-07-2008, 09:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
rsinsel 2.4 Liter ECOTEC Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 122	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Why not make all Gm dealers hydrogen fueling stations at first. Imagine the foot traffic it would generate.

01-08-2008, 07:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hurricane 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,517	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Very interesting photos! __________________ 2007 Yukon XL Denali 2006 Chevrolet Corvette

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Snafu_SS 3.6 Liter V6 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SOKY for now...NKY later Drives: 1995 Chevrolet C/1500 "chi" Posts: 1,057	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt This kind of screams Saturn Vue with an edgy Cadillac grill...The interior is looking great. But why can't the exterior be a bit less Vue? __________________ Nothing more fun than some mud and four wheel drive...until you get stuck without a winch and only a shovel and your bare hands Last edited by Snafu_SS : 01-08-2008 at 07:48 AM.

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Saturn69 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa Drives: 2005 Saturn Ion 1995 Saturn SC2 Posts: 3,099	Re: CES Photos of Hydrogen Volt Did anyone else notice the electric motors in the rear hubs and the IRS? This one is AWD....hmmm...so is the Provoq. __________________ "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." - Thomas Paine Ask me about Apatheism!

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