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Old 04-20-2008, 08:59 AM   #196 (permalink)
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Re: Here's the new Buick!

This is what a Buick should be!!!!!

Can't come out soon enough.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:03 AM   #197 (permalink)
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Weren't they talking about bringing back the Regal name for a while? That name isn't damaged like Century and LeSabre, so why not? LaCrosse is such a stupid name.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:18 AM   #198 (permalink)
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I like it! Very nice. Wouldn't mind being a 27 year old Buick owner with this car.

The dash to me looks alittle wierd, but I'm sure it'll grom on me.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:24 AM   #199 (permalink)
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Gorgeous. Now, if only all of those details, at least on the outside, can make it to production.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:10 AM   #200 (permalink)
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Weren't they talking about bringing back the Regal name for a while? That name isn't damaged like Century and LeSabre, so why not? LaCrosse is such a stupid name.
I son't think LeSabre is damaged, but LaCross is stupid and Allure is at least as stupid if not more.

(LaCross = Allure in Canada for those of you that don't know)
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:23 AM   #201 (permalink)
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People I could tell you right now, the next Lacrosse, Invicta whatever they call it will look and perform great. It will be a modern design, with a high quality interior and very nice exterior looks. it will have a 3.6 with optional DI and a 6 speed auto. Whatever would make anyone think it will be a bomb ? It will probably be nicer than the Malibu, right behind the CTS.

However like Caddy, Buick will have the car behind their sedan flagship that is nicer. The CTS is nicer atleast inside than the STS and this Lacrosse/Invicta blows away the current Lucerne. GM please drop the Lucerne after 2009 and bring us the RWD Holden/Chinese Park Avenue sometime in 2009. Also, Caddy please give the STS a better interior or make bring us the replacement.

Come on GM !!!!!
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:49 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Very nice. I hope it does well.

A few posters made the point of keeping Buick below Cadillac.
Phooey! let Buick compete hard. Their cars are far enough from Cadillac in image, style and layout to appeal to different prople.
Two pronged attack on the luxury prestige market for mine, and yes I know it'll take a little while for Buick to be really considered in that league. All the more reason to get cracking.
I agree about there being no reason Buick can't strive for building cars on the level of Cadillac. However, and RedVee since I assume you are in Australia you may not realize this... but the caliber of dealerships that most Buicks are found in have, at least in my experience, not been that great. Here in town, our BPG dealership is old, and is FAR outclassed by the look and feel of the Honda and Nissan dealers that surround it. Heck, the Chevy dealer (which coincidentally also sells Cadillac ) is nicer than it. When you have buyers that are used to the "Lexus" experience or the "Mercedes" experience of buying from their dealerships, how are you going to convince a lot of them to come onto a low-rent lot that is also selling Pontiac G5s? There is certainly no feel of "luxury" when you go there.

I don't mean to sound too critical, because I know it's an enormously expensive problem to fix. However, I do believe that the poor quality of some of these BPG stores may be a negative in a lot of consumers' eyes that keep them from buying a car there. GM has to face this reality and try to find a way to work around it.

Other than that, I love this car. I am 25 and would have absolutely no qualms about driving it. Good job, GM.
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:42 AM   #203 (permalink)
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Just wanted to add I like this more than the concept too, MonaroSS
Will this be on the road by June 9-21 2009, when Dame Edna does the "first last tour" at the Ahmanson Theatre in Los Angeles? Will Dame Edna be able to see out the windows as she waves to adoring fans. Will there be enough headroom for all that purple hair? Or should she just stick to riding in 1960s-era Rollers? These are important questions to ponder.

On another note: This greenhouse is more practical from a comfort and safety standpoint. Also looking straight at the front (picture #4), the car has the same shape on sides as the CTS, which somehow reminds me of a head of a shark (a good thing), because of the way the body tapers behind the front wheel wells.

I don't think it's insulting to say that the car competes with the lower end Lexus (ES): it certain is not designed as an LS-killer.

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Old 04-20-2008, 12:12 PM   #204 (permalink)
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I think that this car will do well for Buick. Some have stated a $28000 base price this is not TL and ES competition this is TSX and 9-3 pricing which is not the intended competition. A $33,000 price would undercut the two but only by a few hundred dollars. With this configuration a 3.2DI 275 HP six speed combo should be standard on CX and CXL the CX would come with leather and the LCD screen but no nav, and 17 inch wheels and heated/cooled front seats. CXL should add the nav in addition to heated rear seats maybe features like laser cruise control and 18 inch wheels. The CXS features a 3.6DI 320 HP six speed combo with all of the CXL fare, plus AWD a sportier suspension and 19 inch wheels. On top would be the ULTRA trimline with all CXS features plus the addition of cooled rear seats and adjustable suspension. Ultra should also include semi-analine leather power rear sunshade and keyless entry linked preference settings and a fancy park assist.
In my structure I would like to see the prices as follows.
CX - $33,000
CXL - $38,000
CXS - $44,000
ULTRA - $49,000
I see this happening with a MCE in the CTS for 2010 upgrading it to be more like the 5 series/E class price (starting in the low $40,000's)
Also the RWD Park Avenue/Electra could start around $55,000 and extend to possibly the low $80,000 range to compete with the LS and the proposed $70,000 RWD V8 Acura RL. Also with an upper $60,000-$100,000 STS replacement there would be little overlap above too.
NOTE this is what I would like to see, and what I hope happens.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:18 PM   #205 (permalink)
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The best thing about the Invicta is how it kinda 'apes' the Lincoln MKT crossover concept, but in a beautiful sedan form.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:24 PM   #206 (permalink)
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That's because the people going crazy the other day all went out and drove off a cliff, so they are no longer posting.
Drove off... pushed them off at gunpoint... They're really just the same aren't they?
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:26 PM   #207 (permalink)
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My *** moment of the day: Justin Thompson (lead designer) is hot!
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My *** moment of the day: Justin Thompson (lead designer) is hot!
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:30 PM   #209 (permalink)
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If I had my way, Buick would have its small/midsize sedans be FWD and its larger sedans be RWD. But, those opinions are reserved for the Reader's Talent section.

Anyway, does anyone notice that the lock/unlock buttons are located on the center console, next to the hazard lights button?
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The best thing about the Invicta is how it kinda 'apes' the Lincoln MKT crossover concept, but in a beautiful sedan form.
You know I would not have thought of that but you are right...the two do manage to share elements despite being quite different. But whereas the MKT is brave and has the potential to redefine the luxury car, the Invicta plays it quite safe.....if ONLY it had the front end of the Riviera or something close!
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