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Old 06-19-2008, 06:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Z06 Scuderia?, ZR-1 ?

I know we're talking almost $300K, but your house is a depreciating asset too, now:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

"First Test: 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Enzo, Schmenzo: You own one of the 380-some surviving Enzos and think your carbon-fiber V-12 baby is the shizzle? Think again..."

0-60 = 3.1 sec, 1/4 mile = 11.2 sec @ 126.7 mph, 60-0 = 93 feet!!!

I wonder if this is faster than the ZR-1?

I also wonder if team corvette could have done this to the Z06 with the ~$20K that Wagoner gave them to show him a $100K vette.
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Re: Z06 Scuderia?, ZR-1 ?

Isn't the Scuderia like 2800lbs? It's on a whole different level than the Z06 and ZR1, with an entirely different intent than both the Chevs. It's a street legal race car that makes a Viper ACR look like it was built to take grandma to bingo.
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Re: Z06 Scuderia?, ZR-1 ?

DETROIT The official Corvette ZR1 numbers are in and they're good. Very good:
  • $103,300 MSRP (including $850 destination charge)
  • EPA-estimated fuel economy of 14 city and 20 highway
  • 0-60 mph in 3.4 seconds
  • 0-100 mph in 7.0 seconds
  • Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.3 seconds at 131 mph
The Corvette ZR1 also has a top speed of 205 mph (330 km/h), making it the fastest Corvette ever produced and ranking it among the global super cars of commensurate performance. None of those other super cars, however, equals the ZR1's performance-per-dollar ratio.
"The ZR1 is an incredible machine by any measure," said Ed Peper, North American Vice President, Chevrolet. "There's simply no other vehicle in the world that does a better job of balancing performance, price and fuel economy."
Performance perspective
The Corvette ZR1's 0-60 performance is 0.3-second quicker than the already-quick Corvette Z06 and the 0-100-mph performance is nearly a full second quicker - 7 seconds vs. the Z06's 7.9 seconds. It is performance that is equal to or better than many super cars costing substantially more.
"A favorable power-to-weight ratio gives the ZR1 an advantage over the competition and performance that has to be experienced to fully appreciate," said Tom Wallace, Corvette chief engineer. "Of course, on a racetrack, drivers of competitors' cars may appreciate the ZR1 in a whole different manner."
And the racetrack isn't the only place where the ZR1 trumps its super-car competitors – it beats them at the gas pump, too. According to fueleconomy.gov, the ZR1's EPA-rated 14 city and 20 highway mileage ratings beat 2008 competitors such as the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano (11 city / 15 highway); the Lamborghini Murcielago (8 city / 13 highway) and the Aston Martin V8 Vantage (12 city / 19 highway). They're competitive with the Dodge Viper (13 city / 22 highway) and the Porsche 911 GT3 (15 city / 22 highway).
Under the carbon-fiber hood
A new LS9 6.2L supercharged small-block engine powers the ZR1's performance capability. Heavy-duty and lightweight reciprocating components support high-rpm performance, while a new, sixth-generation supercharger (and complementing charge-cooling system) helps the LS9 make big power and torque across the rpm range. The engine is hand-assembled at GM's Performance Build Center, in Wixom, Mich.
In addition to the LS9 engine, the ZR1 is a technology powerhouse, designed with lightweight and unique components that reinforce its performance with a confidant feel on either a highway or road course.
Options
The standard ZR1 comes with accoutrements based on the Z06, including lightweight seats and lightweight content. The available uplevel interior package includes power-adjustable, heated and leather-trimmed sport seats (embroidered with the ZR1 logo); side air bags; Bose premium audio system; navigation system; Bluetooth connectivity; power telescoping steering column; custom leather-wrapped interior available in four colors and more. Chrome wheels are the only other available option on the ZR1. Detailed pricing noted below.
  • $103,300 Base MSRP including destination
  • $1,700 Gas guzzler tax
  • $10,000 Option package
  • $2,000 Chrome wheels
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Isn't the Scuderia like 2800lbs? It's on a whole different level than the Z06 and ZR1, with an entirely different intent than both the Chevs. It's a street legal race car that makes a Viper ACR look like it was built to take grandma to bingo.
Awesome line.
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Isn't the Scuderia like 2800lbs? It's on a whole different level than the Z06 and ZR1, with an entirely different intent than both the Chevs. It's a street legal race car that makes a Viper ACR look like it was built to take grandma to bingo.
Scuderia is 2976, according to the article I thoughtfully posted a link to.
Z06 is around 3179, while the base F430 is 3197. Sounds to me like the Z06 COULD have gotten there with the same formula.

It's sad that Chevy (the volume brand) thought that their supercar had to be as comfortable as possible. Ferrari figured if people are buying an expensive sports car like this, maybe they just want to go fast - not send grandma out to bingo...
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Awesome line.
So's this one from the article written by someone who's actually driven the car:

"...Out in the hills above Maranello, these many small improvements combine to form one awesome piece of machinery, made all the sweeter by being a surprisingly complete and comfortable car. There's no radio (the engine note is worth 1000 iPods), but it's well air-conditioned and trimmed in rich Alcantara and leather inside like a proper road car, not a stripped-out racer..."

Sounds like just the recipe for generating large quantities of automotive lust.
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So's this one from the article written by someone who's actually driven the car:

"...Out in the hills above Maranello, these many small improvements combine to form one awesome piece of machinery, made all the sweeter by being a surprisingly complete and comfortable car. There's no radio (the engine note is worth 1000 iPods), but it's well air-conditioned and trimmed in rich Alcantara and leather inside like a proper road car, not a stripped-out racer..."

Sounds like just the recipe for generating large quantities of automotive lust.

Sounds like sugarcoatingn expensive car like this (at $272,306) should at least have the most basic feature found in a 12k car. I wonder what would have happened if the ZR1 didnt include a radio.
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Sounds like sugarcoatingn expensive car like this (at $272,306) should at least have the most basic feature found in a 12k car. I wonder what would have happened if the ZR1 didnt include a radio.

I think first people would complain that it didn't have NAV...
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I think first people would complain that it didn't have NAV...

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A stripped down very light Ferrari F430 that has R tires..........

Put some DOT drag radials on a Z06 and compare ites 1/4 time to this.........
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Re: Z06 Scuderia?, ZR-1 ?

Remember, you could get a Corvette with no radio, and or heater delete, and no AC......the L88 and ZL-1 packages were that way. The original ZR1 and ZR2 packages were available that way too. They hardly sold any !! Of course they didn't exactly promote them either.
I'm just saying becareful of what you ask for.....
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