Hybrid Jaguar

[gm1985]

"Jaguar and Land Rover are hoping to introduce hybrid vehicles within five years. It is thought Jaguar is considering using a system that is similar to what Mercedes-Benz is developing for its upcoming S-Class hybrid which could be paired with a 3.5 liter V6 engine while Jaguar is considering both a 3.0 liter diesel engine and a 5.0 liter gasoline direct injected V8.
For Land Rover who are developing there own system called "Electric Rear Axle Drive." It seems the new owners of Jaguar and Land Rover (Tata Motors) are keen to keep the two car makers up to date with the latest technology."

http://www.carbloguk.co.uk

And when will Cadillac get a hybrid car

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by gm1985

"Jaguar and Land Rover are hoping to introduce hybrid vehicles within five years. It is thought Jaguar is considering using a system that is similar to what Mercedes-Benz is developing for its upcoming S-Class hybrid which could be paired with a 3.5 liter V6 engine while Jaguar is considering both a 3.0 liter diesel engine and a 5.0 liter gasoline direct injected V8.
For Land Rover who are developing there own system called "Electric Rear Axle Drive." It seems the new owners of Jaguar and Land Rover (Tata Motors) are keen to keep the two car makers up to date with the latest technology."

http://www.carbloguk.co.uk

And when will Cadillac get a hybrid car

5 years is too long. I wonder how Land Rover will use a Hybrid Drive and still be able to be fully capable off road. The main issue being that off roading will drain battery life, and you end up using your engine anyways.

I'm glad Tata is going to keep JLR on the cutting edge of technology.

Cadillac hybrids? My guess is 2-3 years. Escalade Hybrid (dumb name) is out now.

[emh]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

5 years is too long. I wonder how Land Rover will use a Hybrid Drive and still be able to be fully capable off road. The main issue being that off roading will drain battery life, and you end up using your engine anyways.

I'm guessing the hybrid powertrains will go in Range Rovers and the like, not Defenders

[mgescuro]

Originally Posted by emh

I'm guessing the hybrid powertrains will go in Range Rovers and the like, not Defenders

Yeaaaa... but Range Rovers are just about as capable off road as the Defenders.
It would be cool if future RR's and LR3/Disco3 and LR2s can automatically sense that they're going off road and automatically disable the hybrid system or something along those lines.

[emh]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

Yeaaaa... but Range Rovers are just about as capable off road as the Defenders.

Weeellll, not quite. Not close, actually. I remember a Top Gear episode from a few years ago where they were trying to determine the best off-roader among large civilized SUVs (i.e. not dedicated offroaders like Defenders). The RR was one of the worst -- including pieces of the front facia and brush guard completely falling off during the test. They concluded the Nissan Patrol was the best offroader of the lot, at the time.

It would be cool if future RR's and LR3/Disco3 and LR2s can automatically sense that they're going off road and automatically disable the hybrid system or something along those lines.

The inevitable switch to gas engine once the battery is drained seems like a reasonable approximation

[goblue]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

Yeaaaa... but Range Rovers are just about as capable off road as the Defenders.
It would be cool if future RR's and LR3/Disco3 and LR2s can automatically sense that they're going off road and automatically disable the hybrid system or something along those lines.

It depends, electric motors have max torque at very low RPMs. Yes, the gas engine would also be running, but it could use its electric motors to avoid a low range. Also - a vehicle with a series hybrid system wouldn't have any of these issues. So - its all complicated and system specific. I wouldn't rule out hybrid off road operation.

[gm1985]

Originally Posted by goblue

It depends, electric motors have max torque at very low RPMs. Yes, the gas engine would also be running, but it could use its electric motors to avoid a low range. Also - a vehicle with a series hybrid system wouldn't have any of these issues. So - its all complicated and system specific. I wouldn't rule out hybrid off road operation.

Maybe Tata is thinking most people don't use there suv off road (at least most of the time) and a hybrid will save on gas most of the time.

[CJ Thunder]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

Yeaaaa... but Range Rovers are just about as capable off road as the Defenders.
It would be cool if future RR's and LR3/Disco3 and LR2s can automatically sense that they're going off road and automatically disable the hybrid system or something along those lines.

Why the electric motor will probably have more tq. Thats much better for off roading. The car makers need an e-flex RR or Wrangler or H4 soon.

[Bravada]

As said above - electric motors are actually pretty good for offroading IMHO, and certainly for "mild" 4x4 applications. Getting rid of the fuel-consuming standard 4WD, differential and all can probably do wonders to an off-roader's fuel economy.