Toyota gets first Nascar win

[member12]

Can someone in the know explain to me the difference between a Camry stock car and a Charger or Impala stock car?

Are the engines different?


Who's up for seeing real Montes, G8s, Camrys, and Chargers on the race track for 500 laps? I sure am. Hell, I'd like to see the Craftsman truck series with the Tundra, Silverado, and Ram.

[61BelAir]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Nascar has been dead since Dale died, I hope they put V8 supercars on TV in the US. Good old Ford vs Holden.

If NASCAR is dead you might want to let the millions of fans who are loyal fans know!

[bad03xtreme]

I am headed to Bristol this weekend. I hope Jr. pulls one out for Chevy!!!!

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by 61BelAir

If NASCAR is dead you might want to let the millions of fans who are loyal fans know!

Financially it is far from dead, as far as the sport and the cars go it is a complete joke. The majority isn't always smart.

[Ed753]

Originally Posted by marinerbc

Perhaps if the popularity of the sport continues to decline, the Big 3 will get the message, and pull out of the Series.

It is stunning how so many that howled with outrage when the Giant announced its plans to buy a Cup now have no problem supporting the Giant in his quest.

I believe the word is "hipocracy".

I was thinking the decline is because of Toyota, "good ole' boyz" don't drive rice-burners ............

If the Big 3 pull out, then NASCAR will die, or they'll all continue to root for their drivers in a Honda, Nissan or Toyota.

JGR has always done well at this track, the car is the same, chassis, suspension, set-up, Toyota engineers got the power out of the engine this year, Kyle drives like a nut, and wins or crashes trying .... (MOVE OVER DALE JARRET) yikes, that was close!

[GMfan1111]

I personally think we should not get too worked up over this toyota victory. I'm not a toyota fan by any means but if you look at how many races the big three has won in comparison to toyota you'll see what I mean. However if a Toyota won a championship I bet it would make alot of diehard fans extremely upset

[61BelAir]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Financially it is far from dead, as far as the sport and the cars go it is a complete joke. The majority isn't always smart.

So because they like a form of motorsports that you don't like they are dumb?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by 61BelAir

So because they like a form of motorsports that you don't like they are dumb?

I re-typed that post about 15 times but I came to the conclusion that I could not say it without you twisting my words to say whatever you want.

The car of tomorrow is lame, we put little stickers on it and pretend it is a FWD family car, when in reality it is RWD and V8 powered. The Charger is the only one who gets a pass here. I mean seriously, "I race a Camry/Fusion" Give me a break.

Green/White checkered finishes, freezing the field on cautions instead of racing back to the line. The chase for the cup, what a joke.

Toyota was the final nail in the coffin. I used to be a huge fan but I haven't watched more than a couple races in a single season in several years.

Do you know anything about Australia's V8 supercars series? This is how nascar should be. At this point nascar is decent racing entertainment, but for the car enthusiast better series are around, just because nascar is shoved down your throat doesn't mean I have to play along.

[darndot]

Originally Posted by likearock00

There seemed to be fewer spectators in the stands, .....

I noticed that too. I know people clear out pretty fast after a race, but it looked pretty empty.

[61BelAir]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I re-typed that post about 15 times but I came to the conclusion that I could not say it without you twisting my words to say whatever you want.

The car of tomorrow is lame, we put little stickers on it and pretend it is a FWD family car, when in reality it is RWD and V8 powered. The Charger is the only one who gets a pass here. I mean seriously, "I race a Camry/Fusion" Give me a break.

Green/White checkered finishes, freezing the field on cautions instead of racing back to the line. The chase for the cup, what a joke.

Toyota was the final nail in the coffin. I used to be a huge fan but I haven't watched more than a couple races in a single season in several years.

Do you know anything about Australia's V8 supercars series? This is how nascar should be. At this point nascar is decent racing entertainment, but for the car enthusiast better series are around, just because nascar is shoved down your throat doesn't mean I have to play along.

I didn't have to twist anyones words, your statement was that the loyal fans weren't smart!

I use to be a NASCAR fan too but it seems ever since Dale died I just don't have anyhone to root for!

I think if most people could get over their prejudices regarding NASCAR they would seem some awesome wheel to wheel, bumper to bumper, paint swapping racing!

Austrailian Supercar Series is cool stuff too, I think all forms of Motorsports is awesome, if it has 4 wheels, lots of Horsepower, and goes real fast then I'm all for it!

[DuraMax Hammer]

The last true form of stock car racing is the GT classes of the ALMS and the Rolex Grand Am Series. There you get to see Corvettes, Pontiac GXP-R's, Porsche's, Mazda's, Mustangs, Aston-Martin's, etc. All cars that you could go to the dealership's and get one, just that yours will have an interior. So many things that are learned on the race tracks with those cars are acually used on the street version of the cars. I enjoy watching that.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by DuraMax Hammer

The last true form of stock car racing is the GT classes of the ALMS and the Rolex Grand Am Series. There you get to see Corvettes, Pontiac GXP-R's, Porsche's, Mazda's, Mustangs, Aston-Martin's, etc. All cars that you could go to the dealership's and get one, just that yours will have an interior. So many things that are learned on the race tracks with those cars are acually used on the street version of the cars. I enjoy watching that.

I'm also starting to get interested in this.

[Love_My_Grand_Am]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I'm also starting to get interested in this.

Us as well-deep down I'm still pissed that NASCAR doesn't run Pontiacs anymore, so it makes my heart swell to see them running in the ALMS and Rolex Series.

[marinerbc]

Originally Posted by DuraMax Hammer

The last true form of stock car racing is the GT classes of the ALMS and the Rolex Grand Am Series. There you get to see Corvettes, Pontiac GXP-R's, Porsche's, Mazda's, Mustangs, Aston-Martin's, etc. All cars that you could go to the dealership's and get one, just that yours will have an interior. So many things that are learned on the race tracks with those cars are acually used on the street version of the cars. I enjoy watching that.

Was just thinking that.

And the fact that I believe that I have attended my last ever NASCAR race. Life is too short to piss away on something that's becoming more and more irrelevant to you.

Originally Posted by GMfan1111

I personally think we should not get too worked up over this toyota victory. I'm not a toyota fan by any means but if you look at how many races the big three has won in comparison to toyota you'll see what I mean. However if a Toyota won a championship I bet it would make alot of diehard fans extremely upset

I used to agree with this; now I think MOST people would applaud a Toyota Cup Championship. And that tells me that it's time to move on.

People wailed when Toyota entered the series, with unlimited cash and the right to use a race-only engine. Now those same people look beyond their principles just for the sake of following the herd.

Whatever.

[member12]

Is there any difference between a Toyota or a Chevy nascar?

I don't follow the sport....