NASCAR penalizes Kahne, Kenseth and Waltrip

[1931Chevy]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6464174
NASCAR vice president Jim Hunter said that inspectors found unapproved devices that enhanced the speeds of both cars and "which could mean a hole here or there" particularly in the wheel well of the No. 17. Hunter added that both cars will start from the rear of the field in the second qualifying race on Thursday. Additional penalties, which Hunter said could include fines, points or suspensions, would be announced tomorrow.

Hunter added that the infractions were every bit as serious as Chad Knaus's creativity with the rear window on the No. 48 in last year's Daytona 500, which earned him a four-week suspension.

"We are committed to trying to stop all the games that are being played," Hunter said. "We're committed to maintaining the integrity of the garage area and we're going to do whatever it takes to do that."

Hunter also confirmed that in addition to the manifold of Michael Waltrip's No. 55 car being confiscated, the car too was impounded following qualifying. The jury is still out on whether the car will be allowed to race on Thursday.

"We do not know whether the manifold is illegal," Hunter added. "But we want to know."

Waltrip said before qualifying, "If we were in real trouble, they would have taken the car."

Looks like he got his wish.

[AdmiralViscen]

God forbid someone tries to customize a car in NASCAR.

[RamJet502]

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

[IROCNROL1]

I suppose, guys. But if nascaR is pretending to be fair rather than staged, then there is no alternative.

All these guys are doing is trying to galvanize fan support in order to maximize profit. That's the name of the game in 5-F. (France Family's Fantastic Fortune Fund)

Yes, I'm cynical, but it's through experience.

[mjd1001]

Originally Posted by RamJet502

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

I don't agree, or at least I dont' agree that should be how things work. That is the cavalier, cowboy mentality that was fine years ago. But if I'm watchign a race, I dont' want to see someone win becasue they found a loophole in the rules.

[likearock00]

I'm just glad it will be one less Toyota I will have to see on the track!

[HoosierRon]

If they just threw out the book, and said anything goes, it would be far more interesting. Why not let ingenuity play a role in who wins, rather than having ever car be identical, and pure luck decide the winner? I really don't get why a hole in the wheel well is such an outrage. Who was the first person to say "A hole in the wheel well? We have to write a rule against that"?

[Shotgun]

Originally Posted by RamJet502

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

That's very true. All teams, yes all teams, cheat to some degree. Some get caught, true. But the guy who finds the loopholes and can use it to their advantage...more power to you. They obviously did their homework.

It's one thing to be in a "grey" area, but don't cheat if their is a specific rule against what you are doing.

[unkillsam]

Son of a B#TCH Waltrip just wrecked former Chevy teammate Jr. in the Duels!!!!!

I smell a Toyota conspiracy!!

[Shotgun]

Originally Posted by unkillsam

Son of a B#TCH Waltrip just wrecked former Chevy teammate Jr. in the Duels!!!!!

I smell a Toyota conspiracy!!

Here you go again....

[Zigmeister]

Originally Posted by unkillsam

Son of a B#TCH Waltrip just wrecked former Chevy teammate Jr. in the Duels!!!!!

I smell a Toyota conspiracy!!

But you didn't hear his spotter? Racing incident. Nothing more.

Robby Gordon put his hand up to claim responsibility for taking out Allmendinger's Toyota. Conspiracy?

[IROCNROL1]

Originally Posted by unkillsam

Son of a B#TCH Waltrip just wrecked former Chevy teammate Jr. in the Duels!!!!!

I smell a Toyota conspiracy!!

Nah, he's just a lousy driver. But then, I'm not convinced that Junior is all that good either.

You don't need to conspire when you can just spend the competition to death.

[Shotgun]

Originally Posted by IROCNROL1

Nah, he's just a lousy driver. But then, I'm not convinced that Junior is all that good either.

You don't need to conspire when you can just spend the competition to death.

I see what you are saying about Junior. However, I think that these days a driver is only as good as his equipment, which hasn't always been the case. I think that has been Junior's problem, that DEI is behind on their cars compared to other top teams. Once they get up to speed with others, his performances as well as those of his teammates will improve.