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Cajun G8 (02-16-2013),hunchman (02-17-2013),johnstarnes (02-16-2013),SX3 (02-17-2013)
johnstarnes (02-16-2013)
The question isn't what the door handles cost. The question is whether the extra cost gets a real benefit. Is there something tangibly, noticably nicer about the door handles? If they cost an extra $25 for the car, is there enough added oomph to them to justify, say, a $60 higher pricetag? That's the question, not whether there's a cheaper alternative.
megeebee (02-16-2013)
A twin turbo LT1 sounds about right. I agree it's more fuel efficient than supercharging and with direct injection it's a whole new ballgame.
The nonsense door handle rumor is just that.... Nonsense fodder
Please, many of the parts inside a Lexus are almost identical to the ones in a regular Toyota, even the $80K LS had the same 80's vintage microwave oven digital clock that a 1989 Camry had in the dash, so spare me.they cut costs YES but at least the touch points do not feel like they came off a Corolla and the IMPLIED comments is these do VS the pricier version
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I won't worry about this too much as MT lost most of its credibility for me a LONG time ago.
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Great job GM. As for the cost cutting on the door handles, sounds to me like a bunch of you know what. An expensive car like that and to quiver over the price of doors handles is not believable.
they turbocharge ecotecs and V6, and they can't figure out how to turbo a V8?! Maybe emissions become a problem with the big V8 and turbo...which is not an issue with a supercharger (cat light off). You can also package the supercharger in the V, and keep standard exhaust...however, you have 60 bhp parasitic loss.
I would LOVE to see a Kenne Bell 2.8 on the LT4.
fwiw, the LS7 exhaust manifolds are a huge barrier to power...and the LT1 uses a similar designHeaders should be a no-brainer mod. Hooker doesn't have the hole in the torque band like LG or american racing.
Cadillac can't afford to be penny wise. The ULS is a halo product...not bread and butter, or cash cow.
cad1cts (02-16-2013)
Oh no doubt if there is one place on the web where one can come to get to pessimistic views about General Motors, GMI is the place.
What is sad is that many here don't have enough experience in the sales, marketing, or purchasing to know that every industry must be do everything possible to keep costs down. In the hospitality business hotels like the Ritz negotiate at length to get cost of bedding down to points so low that then buying 350 thread count sheets would make the average Walmart buyer of 100 count envious. Cadillac is doing no different than Mercedes, BMW, or Audi. This is where profits come from, because you can bet good money that if the Omega costs to much and yields a negative return it will be a one time generation vehicle.
Here's a helluva question. Since when is Motor Trend's words good for anything but wiping my buttocks?
glssmann1 (02-16-2013)
Ah yes, because finding overwhelmingly positive, rose-colored-glasses-views of General Motors on the Internet is so easy. Not.
The thing about GMI: most of our members are actual owners, not just random armchair analysts spewing their animosity like, for example, YouTube.
I think many people, yourself perhaps included, think GMI should be the "glass is always half full" group of GM cheerleaders. The site has never been that and I'd argue we've been a service to GM by NOT being that way. There are plenty of examples on here where GM products have received a glowingly positive response from our members - ATS, C7, Sonic, Verano...to name a few.
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I do not understand why these leaks always get out at GM. I never see that happen with any other automaker. How in the heck did they find out about the door handles in the first place?![]()
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