Motor Trend Was Wrong: Next Cadillac FWD

[cad1cts]

Well it works for Lincoln..........Well that's not entirely fair because I really like the MKS' styling and overall I think it's a very good product, for what it is. That's not what Cadillac should be. Even still they should be working on a RWD flagship for the future. Aprime- What multimillionaire do you drive/owns a DTS? I don't know any and it seems like an odd choice of car for someone with that level of weath to drive.

[chevyman1973]

explain to me what is wrong with using a platform that already exist if it will work for the car being built! even if that car is a caddy! i just dont get it!

[CheetahDC]

Originally Posted by cad1cts

Well it works for Lincoln..........Well that's not entirely fair because I really like the MKS' styling and overall I think it's a very good product, for what it is. That's not what Cadillac should be. Even still they should be working on a RWD flagship for the future. Aprime- What multimillionaire do you drive/owns a DTS? I don't know any and it seems like an odd choice of car for someone with that level of weath to drive.

It wouldn't surprise me considering cars that other people of wealth drive. Some people flaunt it. Others don't so much.

[mbukukanyau]

Build a FWD XTS to replace the DTS and kill Cadillac. How can they hope to go aganist things like the S Class, Jaguar XJS and the likes of the Lexus LS, Hyundai Equus with a freaking FWD car?
I cannot believe this.

[RedVee8]

Is XTS going to be the real name?
Is the name any indication of size/status with Cadillac?
If so, I guess that there won't be any room for a "flagship" sedan above it - what would it be, YTS or ZTS?

[SimonDavid]

I'm starting to question the point of Cadillac.

If GM doesnt have the resources to produce and develop stand alone RWD platforms to rival MB and BMW, if they cannot afford to produce a new gen V8, if after many years of trying Cadillac has basically zero sales in Europe, then maybe they should give up.

If it's gussied up versions of mainstream platforms then Buick can handle that. Cash is short and they need to concentrate their resources. Thanks to China, Buick is a much more global brand than Caddy, and it's also older (I think). Chevy / Buick globally would mirror Toyota / Lexus nicely, with Opel effectively "Buick Europe", and GMC inheriting the Escalade.

[sigma]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Build a FWD XTS to replace the DTS and kill Cadillac. How can they hope to go aganist things like the S Class, Jaguar XJS and the likes of the Lexus LS, Hyundai Equus with a freaking FWD car?
I cannot believe this.

Start believing. I give it an hour before fp115 comes out touting how great FWD is, how inferior RWD is, how the A8 is offered as FWD (he won't remind you it's on the stripper edition and only sold in Europe).

Just remember GM has never known they can emulate Audi's attention to material quality for the interiors, Mercedes cache in brand, or will they ever top the handling of a BMW with a FWD car. Those are three hurdles that the brand is going to have to pass in order to return to it's former glory. It needs unique exteriors, well detailed and assembled interiors, and the ability to handle. Don't meet all three, don't even bother to show up to the game.

[fan]

If GM cannot offer something on par with 7 series or S, it should not do it. It would only damage the brand. A LaCrosse sized Cadillac for US only with decent features may work. While clearly not targeted at S or 7.

If GM really cannot offer a RWD competitor for 7 series, it could do a trick and build something insane like a Sixteen and compete with Maybach. It would sell low numbers with some losses but it would be The "flag-ship'.

[LeSabre]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

I would say SRX was a poor effort. Not only did it dump a good platform( Sigma/Sigma II) in favor of TE, it is a fat heavy pig proving too much for the 3.0 SIDI and good enough for the class with the 2.8T. It is EMBARRASSING that the Escalade outperforms it by roughly a second 0-60 and it weighs 1100 lb. more then the SRX. The interior might be good and the AWD system makes it a good handler, but this should have been a Buick, not a Cadillac.

Damn straight!!!
Can you say 2nd Gen Rendezvous??

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

Cadillac can not penny pinch like that. The segment demands V8's( or V8 power) and V12's. With the XTS being limited to EPII, as of now the only engine available to it is the 3.6 SIDI. This Cadillac will be down already by 100 HP compared to the 7 series with its TT V8. I hope the rumored 3.6TT comes because it is this Cadillac's ONLY hope to not be a joke in the segment if this rumor is true.....

This is correct, they should not be cutting corners & instead going all out.
This includes absolutely NO FWD models AT ALL!! RWD/AWD only!!
Among other things like not leaving out features the competition will have in their models in any given segment. But this doesn't mean if they don't have them yet, you don't put them in anyway, b/c to get the jump on them, you do put new technologies like NAV or Bluetooth for example in your cars before the competition starts doing it!

A sale(or lack of one) could/can come down to the features on the car.


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[Ambalanche]

I, like alot of others are disappointed by this, and getting concerned about GM's turnaround. They STILL don't seem to know what Cadillac is. Not only that but 2013? Other than the SRX and two new CTS variants, Cadillac seems to have nothing on the way. Plus they are giving a VUE to Buick with little more than a new grille? Hello, Fritz, this is called badge engineering!

[62Lincoln]

Originally Posted by Suziebob

What makes Automotive News more reliable a source than Motor Trend?

Actual journalists work at AN. Motor Trend is the U.S. equivalent of Auto Express.

[eaton53]

What multimillionaire do you drive/owns a DTS? I don't know any and it seems like an odd choice of car for someone with that level of weath to drive.

Warren Buffet for one.
Many multi-millionaires are actually kind of cheap, which is how they got to be multi-millionaires.

[EJD1984]

I somewhat doubt this report. This seems to be a rehash of news reports from earlier this year. I'm leaning more towards the Motor Trend RWD news report from July 20th. They've generally been a good outlet of reliable information (and creditable industry sources).

Cadillac has been on a positive upswing over the past several years, and has been gaining great respectability around the world. I just can see them abandoning their current willing formula and take a huge step backwards to a FWD based platform for their proposed flagship/halo car.

[Parlay84]

Message to GM: Cadillac is not taken seriously because u still make a FWD DTS. I know Lexus has FWD also but it's for an ENTRY LEVEL rebadge. If this report is true, by the time this car hits the market the only people that are looking for a car like this from Cadillac will be dead.

[V8GMT360 Guy]

I'll reserve judgement until I see a car sitting at the dealership. It'll take that long for GM to decide what it wants to do anyway....