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Old 05-15-2008, 01:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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No, the Chinese government pays for the properties they want back. I am not arguing that they don't "take" properties away (you really have no choice when they want the land back), but the government pays the ex-owners very well for their lands.

Trust me, I know this for a fact.
It's no different in America.

Had Americans not been all glued to NASCAR, worshipping Brangelina or arguing over same-sex marriage, they would have noticed the 2005 Supreme Court ruling in Kelo v. City of New London.

"(the)specter of condemnation hangs over all property. Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory." — dissenting justice Sandra Day O'Conner.

Little surprise that a corporate Leviathan, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer in this case, was involved.




That Dodge Breeze is kinda cute too!

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Old 05-17-2008, 03:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thx for the pic and congratz on your eagle eye - I hope Brenda appreciates!

Here's what the Chery looks like up close:






More @ the China Car Times

Certainly a fairly decent effort by Chery, we shall see about the actual build quality, reliability, road- and crash-worthiness, but I think GM's development of the very same vehicle, the Chevrolet Spark (aka Pontiac G2 Matiz in Mexico) will have a worthy competitor...




In a twist of fate, the Breeze will replace another rehashed Korean, the Hyundai Amica sold as "Atos by Dodge" in Mexico.
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Thx for the pic and congratz on your eagle eye - I hope Brenda appreciates!

Here's what the Chery looks like up close:






More @ the China Car Times

Certainly a fairly decent effort by Chery, we shall see about the actual build quality, reliability, road- and crash-worthiness, but I think GM's development of the very same vehicle, the Chevrolet Spark (aka Pontiac G2 Matiz in Mexico) will have a worthy competitor...




In a twist of fate, the Breeze will replace another rehashed Korean, the Hyundai Amica sold as "Atos by Dodge" in Mexico.
Thanks Bravada. i actually heard back from Brenda and it looks like this car is not desirable enough (meaning editors interest is not high enough at this point) These cars have been running around CTC for months and up until I shot that pic they were pretty good at eluding my lens (in part because of there small size). Even though Chrysler is a favorite target of mine i have also gone to fords MPG facility and just recently to Milford proving grounds with a friend of mine where I shot plenty of lacrosse mules (which is already posted here). Anyway I'm actually saving some money for a new SLR camera so i can take better distance photos but I'll still have my current Canon camera on me for close range shots like this one
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It's no different in America.

Had Americans not been all glued to NASCAR, worshipping Brangelina or arguing over same-sex marriage, they would have noticed the 2005 Supreme Court ruling in Kelo v. City of New London.

"(the)specter of condemnation hangs over all property. Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory." — dissenting justice Sandra Day O'Conner.

Little surprise that a corporate Leviathan, pharmaceutical giant Pfizer in this case, was involved.




That Dodge Breeze is kinda cute too!
It really is quite adorable isn't it?
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Re: Dodge breeze pic and a suprise coming up

Not a bad looking little car. Won't fit in with the rest of Dodge's lineup at all, but it's nice nevertheless.

Any idea when this is supposed to be out?
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Not a bad looking little car. Won't fit in with the rest of Dodge's lineup at all, but it's nice nevertheless.

Any idea when this is supposed to be out?
Exactly the reasoning behind bringing Plymouth back from the grave. Use it to sell these small cars.
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OMG, that is the most hideous thing I've seen in a while!
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So this is not coming to the US?
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OMG, that is the most hideous thing I've seen in a while!

Considering how cheap it is (both to make and its retail price) and how fast it goes (north to 60 in roughly 15 seconds, even though GM's estimates place it above that)...

Besides, I think it's well-designed inside and out for the money your spending on it (I think it surpasses the Nano by a thousand dollars).
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It was neither the Chinese nor American CEO's that allowed mega retailers like Wal-Mart to flourish. It was the stupid American public. So if you're going to lay blame, lay it where it's due.
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So this is not coming to the US?
Chrysler said Chery cars are not ready for the US, and they have plans for a compact Chrysler for the world market to be manufactured by Nissan Japan.

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Executives at Chrysler and Chery Automobile Co. stated at this week's 2008 Beijing Auto Show that potential vehicles slated to be introduced into the U.S. and European markets face a number of minor "technical challenges," before they can be considered for export.

"Neither Chrysler nor Chery is comfortable that those products as they exist today meet the requirements of Chrysler, and we're working together to make changes that we're both happy with," according to Phil Murtaugh, CEO of Chrysler Asia, according to an Associated Press report.

Not only do the cars have to meet the requirements of the American automaker, but they also must adhere to safety and quality regulations imposed by individual global markets.

Chery is one of several Chinese automakers being considered by Chrysler for a joint venture to build vehicles for North American consumers. Chrysler and Chery signed a strategic cooperation agreement last year to produce low-cost Chrysler branded cars for the world's emerging markets.

Chery Chairman Yin Tongyao is hesitant as well to dive into the European and American arenas head first, stating that Chery "should explore those markets in a gradual manner and do it step-by-step. We should not aim too high."

With many technical changes yet to be addressed, the Chery's stated goal for a 2009 U.S. debut will likely pass into 2010 at the earliest.
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Nissan and Chrysler Sign OEM Agreements

Today news comes from both Chrysler and Nissan that they have signed two new OEM (Original Equipment Manufacture) deals. Back in January Nissan and Chrysler already announced that the Japanese auto maker would provide Chrysler with a derivative of its Nissan Versa sedan for the South American market.

Chrysler will build a full-size pick-up truck for Nissan with a Nissan unique design at their Saltillo Assembly Plant in Mexico. The new pick-up will complement Nissan's Frontier mid-size pick-up truck, which Nissan also supplies to Suzuki as the Equator. It stands to reason that the Dodge Ram will supply the underlying technology. Sales of the new Nissan pick-up will start in 2011.

Nissan on the other hand will produce a small car for Chrysler in Japan for the world market. The new small car will be based on 'a unique Chrysler concept and design', should be on sale by 2010 and will be built in Nissan's Oppama Plant in Japan. Which Chrysler concept will be used is unclear but there are three distinct possibilities, the recently released Chrysler EcoVoyager, the 2005 Chrysler Akino or 2006 Dodge Hornet.

Initial reports hinted at the fact that Chinese car maker Chery would build Chrysler's global small car, with Chery president Yin Tongyue and Chrysler's CEO Tom LaSorda even shaking hands on it. Whether this deal is still ongoing seems unlikely now that Nissan has stepped into the picture.

“Forging the right tactical partnerships is critical to the long-term success of Chrysler,” said Tom LaSorda, Chrysler LLC President and Vice Chairman after the signing ceremony. The global B segment counted for 19% (10 million units) of all global car sales in 2007, a very significant chunk of the pie which Chrysler is missing out on. In North America the segment is expected to grow by 32% (from 0.6 million units sold in 2007) while the industry is expected to shrink by 9% in 2008.

Carlos Tavares, Executive Vice President, Nissan Motor Company said, “This latest agreement builds on Nissan’s proven track record to deliver win-win product exchanges with multiple manufacturers around the world.”
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