2009 Charger

A Clue · 07-07-2008, 10:53 AM

New tails, better interiors, R/T gets 370 HP/398 TQ VCT Hemi.

Dude with a 2009 Challenger R/T (S2) has been getting 30MPG on the highway with the new VCT engine, so dont be quick to write it off as a fuel hog just yet.

Buick61 · 07-07-2008, 11:05 AM

I like the new lights. All they need to do is put a better transmission in the V6 non-AWD cars, and they'd be darn-near perfect.

jkennedy293 · 07-07-2008, 12:03 PM

I don't see any difference in the taillights, except that maybe the backup lights are a bit bigger. It's kind of hard to tell due to the blurry picture.

Uzzy · 07-07-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jkennedy293

I don't see any difference in the taillights, except that maybe the backup lights are a bit bigger. It's kind of hard to tell due to the blurry picture.

That's all I can see. No more red stripe through them.

jkennedy293 · 07-07-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by A Clue

Dude with a 2009 Challenger R/T (S2) has been getting 30MPG on the highway with the new VCT engine, so dont be quick to write it off as a fuel hog just yet.

I find that hard to believe considering the '09 Charger isn't even EPA rated yet.

GMfan1111 · 07-07-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jkennedy293

I find that hard to believe considering the '09 Charger isn't even EPA rated yet.

I agree its a bit premature to talk about mileage when no EPA rating exists for the 09. as for the pic other than a slight taillight revision I don't see anything thats different. And I'm just curious but was this taken over at Chrysler Proving grounds?

igor · 07-07-2008, 02:55 PM

well 30mpg on HWy is nice - of course depends on the driver's definition of"HWY" - as some of you know when I tested the Edge, I averaged 33mpg in :relaxed hwy driving" - i.e. perfect conditions: 55-60 relaxed, steady. That car is rated at 24mpg.

Now there is nothing to sneeze at if a 370hp V8 gets rated at 24mpg - that is quite impressive. However in the current market - I am affraid anything below 25mpg is just unattractive to your usual buyer.

Igor

red_rider · 07-07-2008, 04:19 PM

Damn. Between this updated Charger, the Challenger and the Magnum (sure, discontinued I know) as well as the updated 5.7, I could be pretty easily convinced to drive a Dodge. Badass looking rides indeed.

jry · 07-07-2008, 06:00 PM

The thing that kept me away from an 06 was the cheap looking interior. Round, exposed speaker grills in the doors that reminded me of the add on 8 track in my old Ford with those el-cheapo speakers in the doors.

benroethig · 07-09-2008, 10:59 AM

Hopefully they updated the front end.

GMfan1111 · 07-09-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by benroethig

Hopefully they updated the front end.

I hope so too I'm not expecting a radical redesign but I hope they do some form of a refresh. I did see a 09 yesterday. i couldn't get a good view of the front but it looked the same to me as the current 08 charger

GMfan1111 · 07-14-2008, 01:49 PM

I had a better view of a Grey 09 today at CTC. This one eluded my lens as well but from my observation the exterior shape will stay roughly the same as before except for the removal of the dorky looking red stripe on the reverse lamps. Expect the majority of the changes to be under the hood and in the interior.

zabolots · 07-14-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GMfan1111

Expect the majority of the changes to be under the hood and in the interior.

The specs on the updated Hemi sound great. Still haven't seen the updated interior though.

ResumeSpeed · 07-15-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by zabolots

...Still haven't seen the updated interior though.

The Charger received an interior refresh for the 2008 model year. 2009 interior "upgrades" are only on the SE base model (chrome door spears, chrome center console cupholder rings and satin silver instrument panel bezel).

The R/T gets the new Hemi (with new 2.65 axle ratio).

AWD models get the new Active Transfer Case (with new 3.06 axle ratio).

Radio mast antenna is being deleted, replaced by rear window antenna.

Other than a some package adjustments, that's about the extent of changes for the 2009 Charger models. The number of build combinations for 2008 model Chargers was 2,750; for 2009 it will be down to 225.

Buick61 · 07-15-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ResumeSpeed

The Charger received an interior refresh for the 2008 model year. 2009 interior "upgrades" are only on the SE base model (chrome door spears, chrome center console cupholder rings and satin silver instrument panel bezel).

The R/T gets the new Hemi (with new 2.65 axle ratio).

AWD models get the new Active Transfer Case (with new 3.06 axle ratio).

Radio mast antenna is being deleted, replaced by rear window antenna.

Other than a some package adjustments, that's about the extent of changes for the 2009 Charger models. The number of build combinations for 2008 model Chargers was 2,750; for 2009 it will be down to 225.

Thanks for migrating over here from 300Cforums, ResumeSpeed! Your info is always the best.

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A Clue 1.8 Liter ECOTEC Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 44	2009 Charger New tails, better interiors, R/T gets 370 HP/398 TQ VCT Hemi. Dude with a 2009 Challenger R/T (S2) has been getting 30MPG on the highway with the new VCT engine, so dont be quick to write it off as a fuel hog just yet. Last edited by A Clue : 07-07-2008 at 12:26 PM.

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Buick61 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: DC Metro Area Drives: 58 Belvedere; 61 LeSabre; 96 Fleetwood; 07 SRX Posts: 8,495	Re: 2009 Charger I like the new lights. All they need to do is put a better transmission in the V6 non-AWD cars, and they'd be darn-near perfect. __________________ Used to own: 1959 Cadillac Series 62, 1960 AMC Rambler Six, 1998 Chevrolet Malibu, 2000 Saturn LS2, 2005 Chrysler 300C, 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP

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jkennedy293 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Holly Springs, NC Drives: '03 Cavalier Posts: 1,292	Re: 2009 Charger I don't see any difference in the taillights, except that maybe the backup lights are a bit bigger. It's kind of hard to tell due to the blurry picture.

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igor 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,335	Re: 2009 Charger well 30mpg on HWy is nice - of course depends on the driver's definition of"HWY" - as some of you know when I tested the Edge, I averaged 33mpg in :relaxed hwy driving" - i.e. perfect conditions: 55-60 relaxed, steady. That car is rated at 24mpg. Now there is nothing to sneeze at if a 370hp V8 gets rated at 24mpg - that is quite impressive. However in the current market - I am affraid anything below 25mpg is just unattractive to your usual buyer. Igor __________________ Autosavant - Reimagined! The new www.autosavant.COM!

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red_rider 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Illinois Drives: 1997 Mazda B2300 5-spd. Posts: 604	Re: 2009 Charger Damn. Between this updated Charger, the Challenger and the Magnum (sure, discontinued I know) as well as the updated 5.7, I could be pretty easily convinced to drive a Dodge. Badass looking rides indeed.

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jry 5.3 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: michigan, the incredible shrinking state Drives: '08 Vette LT2, '06 H3, '07 Expy EL, 31' motorho Posts: 1,386	Re: 2009 Charger The thing that kept me away from an 06 was the cheap looking interior. Round, exposed speaker grills in the doors that reminded me of the add on 8 track in my old Ford with those el-cheapo speakers in the doors. __________________ '06 H3, '08 LT2 Vette, '07 Expy EL, Eddie Bauer, '96 Fleetwood 31' motorhome, '02 saturn L100 tow car. Good night and good luck.

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benroethig 3.9 Liter V6 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 996	Re: 2009 Charger Hopefully they updated the front end.

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GMfan1111 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in a undisclosed location somewhere in the metro detroit area Drives: 2001 Chevy Malibu LS Posts: 1,605	Re: 2009 Charger I had a better view of a Grey 09 today at CTC. This one eluded my lens as well but from my observation the exterior shape will stay roughly the same as before except for the removal of the dorky looking red stripe on the reverse lamps. Expect the majority of the changes to be under the hood and in the interior. __________________ The 100 Mpg Prius is Vaporware “The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair” "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools". - Douglas Adams - Current ride: 2001 Chevy Malibu LS (happy 95,000 miles )

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