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Old 02-19-2005, 04:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright, well, I'll continue my legacy of "My/Your Ideal ---- Lineup" threads... Mazda would be fun to play around with... Post your ideal Mazda lineup here!

My Ideal Mazda Lineup:

Mazda1 $13,000-$19,500
A sporty subcompact hatch using the new Mazda face. I4 powers all models. Base has 130 HP, top model has 150 HP. Mazdaspeed1 will pump out 220 hp, gain a race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior. Based on the MX-5's platform for RWD. A small, affordable 1-series essentially in coupe, sedan, and 3-dr hatch variants.

Mazda3 $16,000-$25,000
All new Mazda3 serves up Mazda's new, more aggressive styling, a higher-quality and driver-oriented interior, and overall upgrades to features and materials. Base "i" model gets the 160 HP 2.3 while the upper "s" model gets a 220 HP I4.
Coupe/convertable version avaliable with a slightly different front and completely different from A-pillar bar design. Comes only in "s" trim. Sedan and 3-dr hatch variants.
Mazdaspeed3 with a turbo I4 to pump out around 300 hp, AWD, race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior. Option of coupe, sedan, or 5-door sport hatch.

Mazda5 $17,500-$25,000
The Mazda5 as-is. Mazdaspeed5 would have a race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior, and a DI 3.5L V6 good for 300 HP.

Mazda6 $18,000-$29,000
Updated with a new interior and exterior taking its styling cues from the new, aggressive Mazda design language. 220 HP 2.4L I4 on base "i" model and a 265 HP 3.5L V6 on top "s" model. Keep in same size, add more creature comforts to draw more from the Accord crowd. Mazdaspeed6 should get a turbo V6 rated at 350 hp, AWD, race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior.

Mazda9 $24,000-$34,000
Basically, a new Millenia. A toned-down version of Mazda's new design language. V6 (300 HP) standard, optional V8 (350 HP). Plusher ride, however a sport suspension setup is an option. Large, business-class-style cabin. Based on a new, RWD platform co-developed by Ford.

RX-8$25,000-$37,000
Updated interior, exterior, and features with upgrade to power to 280 HP. Mazdaspeed RX-8 features a race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior, and 350 HP with a turbo. RWD.

MX-3 $16,000-$25,000
Kabura concept (RWD) exactly as-is and gets the same engines as the Mazda3.

MX-5 $20,000-$29,000.
Exactly as-is. Mazdaspeed Miata features a race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior, and 270 HP turbo I4. RWD.

CX-7 $24,000-$33,000
The Mazda CX-7 as-is aside from the engines and standard AWD. 2.3L good for 250 HP with turbo, up-level 3.5L V6 good for 300 HP. Mazdaspeed CX-7 has a turbo I4 to pump out around 270 hp, race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior.

CX-9 $28,000-$40,000
The Mazda CX-9 as-is aside from engines and standard AWD. 3.5L V6 standard with 280 HP, up-level turbo 3.5L good for 320 HP.

B-series $14,000-$39,000.
Return to making your own trucks please! B200=small, B300=midsize. Using a similar face to the CX-7, but a beefier build to make it obviously more work and play than show. RWD with optional 4x4, build for off-road and work, uses Ford's truck platform. 250 HP I4 and 300 HP V6 on B200, 300 HP V6 and 360 HP V8 on B300. Mazdaspeed B200 would have a race-tuned suspension, lighter material, sportier and more aggressive interior and exterior, and a twin-turbo V6 good for 360 HP.

Isei $40,000-$58,000
Isei means power, might, authority. This is a 2-seater Corvette fighter with a V8. Using the Mazda corporate face and wide, low proportions, this car is ready to carve up the back road, and with its low weight and 350 HP standard V8, it's also ready to drag-race. The Mazdaspeed Isei produces an amazing 480 HP in a car weighing only 2700 lbs as well as a race-tuned suspension and more sporty and aggressive interior and exterior. Low production numbers. Based on the same platform that underpins the Ford GT500.

**IDEA!** NEW LUXURY DIVISION:
Prestige

A-series $26,000-$34,000 (Aspire)
Prestige's baby luxury car, the equivalent of the BLS/1-series, this 3-door coupe-hatch AWD car is based on Mazda's great Mazda3 platform. This car is all sport and fun, not luxury. Light, nimble, taunt ride, communicative chassis and 200 HP makes for a thrilling ride. The RS-A ups the ante with a turbo'd I4 good for 280 HP, a race-tuned suspension, and a noticable more aggressive exterior and sportier interior. A50, A100, A150, RS-A.

S-series $33,000-$45,000 (Sport)
A direct threat to the 3-series, this car employs RWD and optional AWD, a chassis that can't be shaken, and a platform coming from America - the Mustang platform. Powered by I4 and V6 engines, this car has the perfect balance in suspension travel - taunt enough to be thrown around in corners without making someone sea-sick, yet comfortable enough to drive across America without complaining. The seats are extremely supportive and wont let go of you in cornering. 230 HP base, 260 HP on the top model. RS-B gets a twin-turbo V6 good for 460 HP and 500 torque, a race-tuned suspension, ands a noticably more aggressive exterior and sportier interior. S50, S100, S150, RS-S.

L-series $47,000-$66,000 (Legendary)
The 5-series and STS is in this cars cross-hair. V6 and V8 power all the way for this car, 300 HP to 360 HP. This car has a great mix of luxury and performance with a special suspension that can be adjusted between Comfort, Sport, and Track. Leather is standard. The car can be customized to be more performance or more luxury, but standard it comes with a seemingly perfect mix. AWD is standard. RS-C is proppelled by a 480 HP, 500 tq quick-revving, high redline (8800) V8, a race-tuned suspension, ands a noticably more aggressive exterior and sportier interior. L50, L100, L150, RS-L.

E-series $68,000-$105,000 (Excellence)
Down with the heralded 7-series and S-class! Up with the E-series! This V8 and V10 powered sedan has tons of luxury, but sport has not been forgotten. Once again, the adjustable suspension makes its appearance with Luxury, Sport, and Track options, and the car can be customized to be very performance-oriented or all about luxury, though non-customized versions is luxury-oriented with some sportiness. Comes with 360 HP V8, 400 HP V8, and 460 HP V10. RS-E is proppelled by a 500 HP, 500 tq V10, a race-tuned suspension, ands a noticably more aggressive exterior and sportier interior. E50, E100, E150, RS-E.
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Old 02-19-2005, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1st off- you forgot Miata in your lineup (in case you forgot, you may have skipped intentionally).

Honestly I like the way Mazda is going right now. Only thing i see improvement on is more Mazdaspeed, and the B-series. If they'd ever do something with the ranger, it would help the B-series too im sure...I'm sure i could find more to nit-pick at, but I like the way its playing out right now.
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Redneck - My bad! Sorry! Nope, I didn't mean to skip it.... kinda forgot about it, lol
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Anyone else wanna offer their view of Mazda's "ideal" lineup?
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Anyone else wanna offer their view of Mazda's "ideal" lineup?
I like what your doing with your ideal-lineup threads, AR. So, although I think Mazda is doing really well, I'll try to make a lineup including what I've heard is coming, & a few wish-suggestions.

Mz3 - very good and the Mazdaspeed3 coming next year will be hot. I'd add a 2 door hatch, styled a lot like the Mz6 5door.

Mz6 is getting a facelift this year, not sure if that means it won't get the new Ford Fusion-based platform upgrade until CY2007 or later, but it will eventually do that and grow a bit so it's not quite so close in size to the Mz3. Since the 'speed version is coming out this spring - keep it going until the redo.

new: Mazda9 - built on the 500/Freestyle/Montego/S80 platform - as the sleekest crossover* on the market, 5 door only, turbo v6 3.0 and 3.5 AND a hybrid-rotary! Give it height-adjustable suspension so it could go offroad at low speeds, yet drop itself at highway speeds. (* really need a new word for what I'm thinking about. Picture a CLS that has better space utilization for a roomy interior & can increase/decrease its ground clearance as needed.)

new sport platform for MX5/RX5 roadster(Miata), MX6/RX6 2 seat coupe, MX7/RX7 2+2 coupe-cabriolet, MX8/RX8 like current RX8 but a bit roomier. All come in rotary versions (RX#) and turbo-IC versions (MX#). With all of them sharing a single flexible platform and presumably the same factory/assembly-line, costs should be kept down though all would be produced in relatively low numbers.

new Cross-sport brought to market as shown by the concept - based on new Mz6 platform. Also a smaller X-sport based on Mz3.

new Mz5 'monospace' (to use the euro term for minivan) as already seen, based on Mz3. Also larger version based on new Mz6 or Mz9.

NEW PICKUP - keep it small but up the tech and style.

new Mz2 - Not just the Verisa - include something more daring. Extreme wedge shape - virtual-awd-hybrid (the electric drives only the rear wheels) - inflateable rear seats for max cargo when flat - multi-panel trick roof.

Add-on or use the JDM names for the top-of-lines. ex: Mazda3-Axela, Mazda6-Atenza.

And - maybe Mazda could develop a V8 that they could share with Ford that'd be cheaper than the Yahama 4.4

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Add the RX7 and call it complete!
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You mean the RX8? the RX-7 is no more... the RX-8 is basically the new gen RX-7...
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You mean the RX8? the RX-7 is no more... the RX-8 is basically the new gen RX-7...
No. I meant that Mazda needs to come back out with a new RX7. The RX8 is not a replacement for the "7", which is why they did not call it that.
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No. I meant that Mazda needs to come back out with a new RX7. The RX8 is not a replacement for the "7", which is why they did not call it that.
It is, in essence, a replacement... why have a RX-7 and RX-8 in the same lineup? All you'd basically be doing is taking off the rear quarter door and seats if anything... not worth building an all new car just for that...
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for the new Mazda 9, I taught of using the DEW platform or the Aussie Falcon platform for an RWD sedan in Mazda line-up, then the Aussie Ford inline-6 DOHC might be used for a Mazdaspeed 9.

Also for the Mazda 3, I suggest to add a 3-door hatchback as well as a convertible

Then Mazda should also bring the European Mazda 2 based on the Ford Fiesta in Canada.

I heard once of a Mazda plans for a luxury division called Amati they wanted to launch in the 1990's but the project was cancelled. Except one of the 2 cars planned became the Millenia while the other one was a V12 project, maybe we could dust-off this V12 concept and update it for Lincoln, it could be a perfect future Continental.
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QUOTE=Stéphane Dumas "...for the Mazda 3, I suggest to add a 3-door hatchback as well as a convertible"
YES! maybe a cabrio-hard'vert? more a cruiser than MX-5 rival?

"Then Mazda should also bring the European Mazda 2 based on the Ford Fiesta in Canada."
Cool - one step closer to getting one in the US.

"I heard once of a Mazda plans for a luxury division called Amati they wanted to launch in the 1990's but the project was cancelled. Except one of the 2 cars planned became the Millenia while the other one was a V12 project, maybe we could dust-off this V12 concept and update it for Lincoln, it could be a perfect future Continental."
Wow, interesting idea. Got pix link?

"for the new Mazda 9, I taught of using the DEW platform or the Aussie Falcon platform for an RWD sedan in Mazda line-up, then the Aussie Ford inline-6 DOHC might be used for a Mazdaspeed 9..."

The next Mazda6 will grow a bit IF it uses the CD3 platform. But that platform may offer the possibility of a stretched version, too. Maybe not enough of a difference to call it a '9'...
I'd love to see some automaker use an alphanumeric like "6 1/2" (or maybe 6.9 ?). If anyone could get away with it, it'd be 'Zoom-zoom-Inc.'

Also, I've been wondering about a 3.5v6 RX-8 adaptation for Mercury...
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Mazda 3-same
Mazda 6-same
Mazda MX-6-coupe version of Mazda 6, 3.0L V6, 6-speed sequential auto
Mazda RX-8-Same but retuned for better torque
Mazda Miata-same, raise price so Solstice more competitive
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for the new Mazda 9, I taught of using the DEW platform or the Aussie Falcon platform for an RWD sedan in Mazda line-up, then the Aussie Ford inline-6 DOHC might be used for a Mazdaspeed 9.

Also for the Mazda 3, I suggest to add a 3-door hatchback as well as a convertible

Then Mazda should also bring the European Mazda 2 based on the Ford Fiesta in Canada.

I heard once of a Mazda plans for a luxury division called Amati they wanted to launch in the 1990's but the project was cancelled. Except one of the 2 cars planned became the Millenia while the other one was a V12 project, maybe we could dust-off this V12 concept and update it for Lincoln, it could be a perfect future Continental.
For the Mazda 9, that's a good idea!

I was always wondering why Mazda didn't have a luxo brand like Toyxes, Hondura, or Nisinity (since everyone likes joining names of brands like Toyohondasan)... a V12 Mazda under a different name...
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