Your Ideal Lincoln Lineup

[AmericanRevolution]

Well, I was just looking through my thread listing all of My/Your Ideal Lineup Threads and noticed, WOOPS! I forgot Lincoln! So here she is!

MKR: $55,000-$75,000
MKR concept exactly as-is. RWD standard, optional AWD. Engines are the twin turbo 3.5L good for 350 HP and a 450 HP V8. Coupe and sedan.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and so forth. $80,000.

MKS: $42,000-$55,000
MKS concept exactly as-is except the rear end which is more like the MKR. AWD standard, V6 and V8. Engine's range from 300 hp on the 3.5L V6 to 400 hp on the V8. Coupe and sedan.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and so forth. $80,000.

MKZ: $30,000-$44,000
Updated exterior with Lincoln's new design. Includes standard AWD. Engine choices are a 260 HP 3.5L V6 and an up-level 300 HP twin-turbo V6.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more.

MKC: $40,000-$50,000
The Continental concept as-is (2002). Engine is a 450 HP V8. Standard AWD.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more.

MKC IX: $45,000-$55,000
Coupe version of the MKC.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more.

MKY: $23,000-$33,000
A premium sport compact with standard AWD offered in the new stylish Lincoln nose. Two engines: Turbo 2.3L good for 250 HP and a 300 HP 3.5L V6. Available in coupe, sedan, and hatch, and taking aim at the likes of the A3, R32, and 1-series, among others.

MKX: $37,000-$47,000
MKX mostly as-is with more features and the new Lincoln nose. AWD standard with 300 HP/300 tq 3.5L V6.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more.

MKT: $40,000-$52,000
Concept as-is except the hind end with is changed up to flow better. Same engines as the MKS.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more.

MKN: $60,000-$83,000
Navigator renamed and restyled with the new Lincoln design. Engines are a 400 HP V8 and a 500 HP V10.
"Executive" model includes 6 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more.

Post up yours here!

[DuSpinnst]

Mark IX:

As long as its based on the Mustang Platform and has some giddy-up...

[GBC140]

I'm not too creative but I think I would like to see something like:

Zephyr: Smaller, entry level rear-wheel drive car- not a redux of a signifigantly cheaper FWD Mazda- regardless of the number of changes made. Styling at present is good. (I think the interior is too radical, but maybe it will be a hit?)

Continental: Like a redesigned LS, more appealing styling, but less geared torward's performance. The LS would live on as the driver's car performance package of the same car.

Town Car: It should stay full-sized and rear-wheel drive, but the architecture should be updated and the styling should be more modern and a bit less jellybean like than it presently is.

Aviator: Crossover with the same styling as the supposed upcoming model, though again, I'm not too keen on the idea of using a Mazda as the starting point. I suppose it will work though- I'd be more willing to see it in a crossover than a more traditional Lincoln sedan.

Whether or not the sales of the Navigator are good, I refuse to add it- I never liked the Expedition or any other gas guzzler (and I'm being lax with my definition of gas guzzler) and I don't think they belong at Lincoln- especially being based on a truck. That and the high end Expeditions seem to be a decent subsitute, but what do I know about full size luxury SUVs? As for the Mark LT, I think it's an absolutely idiotic idea. Pickups are for contractors and any other working men who need them- not for the affluent to drive around in. I don't even understand how it could be good for image...

[AmericanRevolution]

bump for you Lincoln fans...

[acascianelli]

No need for Lincoln to have a pickup truck IMO, that goes for the Escalade EXT too.

[SobeSVT]

Zephyr: Only with the 3.5 V6 FWD and AWD versions. Also, a H.O. version AWD only.

Continental: AWD Mid-size sedan based on the Continental concept based on the next Jaguar S-type arquitechture.


Town Car: Extensively updated panther platform or DW platform. The big RWD drive Lincoln Sedan, that Lincoln should never be without. Aimed directly at the heart of the Lexus LS series.

Continental Mark IV: Based on a Mustang stretched platform with IRS. V8 only. Good for four passengers in full comfort. Takes iver the Navigator as the falship of the brand. Design based on the Mk 9 Concept

witth a convertible version:


Aviator: As it is being introduced next spring. A H.O. version with the H.O. V6 proposed for the fast Zephyr.

Navigator and Mark LT: I would keep these vehicles (and update them) as long as the public requieres them. Ideally, I would love to see these mamooth Luxury SUV extinct.

Of course, all this fine cars graced with The New Face of Lincoln.

[citric acid]

Looking at your original, I think the Continental prices need to be dropped by at least $10,000, if not $20,000. I don't think the world is ready for a $100,000 lincoln, to be honest.

[SobeSVT]

Originally Posted by citric acid

Looking at your original, I think the Continental prices need to be dropped by at least $10,000, if not $20,000. I don't think the world is ready for a $100,000 lincoln, to be honest.

And I don't think that Lincoln needs to be in that price range. That is what Ford has Jaguar for and still is hard to justify that kind of money.

[kool_zx3]

Of course, all this fine cars graced with The New Face of Lincoln.

I think i know where the new navigator's headlight design came from

[citric acid]

Originally Posted by SobeSVT

And I don't think that Lincoln needs to be in that price range. That is what Ford has Jaguar for and still is hard to justify that kind of money.

That too. And, if they really want to get a high spec sedan, it'd make more sense to go with Jaguar or perhaps an Aston Martin Lagonda revival.

Actually, an Aston Martin Lagonda revival would be really cool, the more that I think of it. Make it a Quattroporte competitor.

[SobeSVT]

Originally Posted by citric acid

Actually, an Aston Martin Lagonda revival would be really cool, the more that I think of it. Make it a Quattroporte competitor.

. . . and as far away from this



as they possibly can.

[Butz]

Originally Posted by AmericanRevolution

Well, I was just looking through my thread listing all of My/Your Ideal Lineup Threads and noticed, WOOPS! I forgot Lincoln! So here her is!

Zephyr:
Exactly as-is with the concept rear-end. "Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and more as well as a 300 HP V8.

Town Car: $46,000-$72,000
Updated, more modern looking version with a design similar to the current one, but with the new corporate grill. RWD, V8. Engine's range from 300 hp/300 lbs ft/tq on the base to 360 hp/400 lbs ft/tq.
"Executive" model includes 4 captain chairs, all heated/cooled, wine cooler, TV for each passenger seat, and so forth. $80,000

Continental: $100,000-$110,000
The concept as-is (2002). Engines range from 450 HP V10 to 550 HP V12.

Continental Mark IX: $105,000-$115,000
Coupe version of the Continental.

Aviator: $40,000-$51,000
Aviator concept as-is (2004).

Mark LT II: $55,000-$82,000
Based off the new F-150, keep the interior the same, but get an all-new, Lincolnized exterior. Everything else remains unchanged.

Navigator: $60,000-$87,000
Have Mark LT II exterior front end (B-pillar forward) with updated rear (behind B-pillar). Everything else remains unchanged.

I like your lineup but you are way off in pricing.. you should drop the price on each one from $5,000 to $10,000 and a $100,000 Lincoln!! come on, Lincoln needs a lot of image building before attempting that market!

[acascianelli]

Heh...not to mention an $82000 glorified F150, and $87000 for a glorified Expedition. The last thing Ford needs is another **************** SUV or truck. Ford's current reliance on their SUV and truck sales needs to stop.

[turbodiesel]

Zephyr - as is

LS - get an Aussie Ford Falcon or Fairlane!

Town Car - (need something to compete with 7-series, S-class, A8... etc. expect price rise)

Navigator - as is

Aviator - did i heard CROSSOVER?

[2b2]

Since Lincoln like the rest of FML is in transition, here's where they could/might be in 2010 if they pursue a full lineup. Sorry it's so long.

engines & features:
. 300hp 3.5v6-Hybrid (shared with Ford & Mercury)

. 275hp 'mpg' version of 3.8v6
. 320hp premium 3.8v6
. also turbo versions for 'Europa'

. 325hp Yamaha 4.4v8
. 400+hp Yamaha 4.4v8 sc, turbo, or both

. 300hp mod4.6v8 (shared with Ford & Mercury)
. 360hp hybrid-4.6v8 - virtualAwd* - MARK-S only

. 370hp 'mpg' version of mod5.0v8
. 400hp premium 5.0v8
. 500+hp supercharged 5.0v8 - 'HRL','Panther','Europa'

. 350hp mod5.0v8 - 4wd trucks only
. 400hp mod5.4v8 - 4wd trucks only (shared with Ford)

- 5.0 v8 is an intermediate stroke version of the modv8 - not the 'cammer'.
- Direct injection is used on all Lincoln engines.
- Intelligent active suspension is std. on all Lincolns.
- All Lincoln sedans would adopt a hidden B-pillar to look like hardtops.
- Two grille options are available on most models - new style std on sport models (D385, D2C and Aviator), and traditional vertical slats std on all others.
- New paint colors - none shared with Mercury or Ford.
- 5 std. interior colors (black,'photogray',cashmere,parchment,'golden-red'), more in special editions.
- 'White Glove' quality assurance program.

The hardest part is figuring out the names of the new stuff. I keep changing my mind but currently I favor keeping the Zephyr name around but using just the initials (LZS) in its badging - possibly using LZ-Aviator to maintain a 'LZ-series' theme.
Zephyr adds its 250hp 3.5v6 and an optional 270hp 3.5v6 (Awd only) ASAP. Later the 3.8 bored-out version replaces the 3.5, except in the hybrid version, and the Zephyr will split into two models -
(top prices are for fully optioned, highest power models)

$29.5-46k Zephyr/LZC coupe version of current Zep (107.4"wlb)
by Andre CWWcardesign.com
(built in Hermosillo alongside Fusion coupe. Milan gets stationwagon instead)
. base engine 275hp 'mpg' version of the 3.8v6 - Fwd (only sub-$30k model)
. opt: 275hp 'mpg' 3.8v6 - Awd
. opt: 300hp 3.5v6-Hybrid - Awd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Awd only

$33-48k Zephyr/LZX lowered sedan version of Aviator (110"wlb)
(built in Canada alongside Aviator)
. base engine 275hp 'mpg' version of the 3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 300hp 3.5v6-Hybrid - Awd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Awd only

$36-56k Aviator
at intro
. base engine 250hp 'mpg' version of the 3.5v6 - Fwd/Awd
. opt: 275hp 3.5v6 - Awd only
asap
. base: 275hp 'mpg' version of the 3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 300hp 3.5v6-Hybrid - Awd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 325hp Yamaha 4.4v8 - Awd only
. opt: 400+hp Yamaha 4.4v8 sc/turbo - Awd only

The D3-based models would share some sheetmetal (with angular wheel arches and a prominent, tapering prow-hood) but the D385 gets a bottom-breather grille and lowered roofline (think more Quattroporte than my crummy chop), the others are taller with command-seating and more conventional bumpers+grilles.

$38-58k Sentinel (D385) sport sedan
chop 'in progress'
at intro
. 270hp 3.5v6 - Awd only
asap
. base: 275hp 'mpg' version of the 3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 325hp Yamaha 4.4v8 - Awd only
. opt: 400+hp Yamaha 4.4v8 sc/turbo - Awd only

$39-60k Continental (E386) sedan
. base: 275hp 'mpg' version of the 3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 300hp 3.5v6-Hybrid - Awd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 370hp mod5.0v8 - Awd only
. opt: 400hp premium5.0v8 - Awd only

$40-61k Continental-Touring (D472) R-class monospace
by BlackManta
. base: 275hp 'mpg' version of the 3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 300hp 3.5v6-Hybrid - Awd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Awd only
. opt: 370hp mod5.0v8 - Awd only
. opt: 400hp premium5.0v8 - Awd only

The Rwd's & 4wd's would share classic slab-sided styling, tho no sheetmetal.

$40-66k Mark-C (D2C) sport coupe/coupe-cabriolet (hard'vert)
sorry no larger pic
. base engine 320hp premium3.8v6 - Rwd only
. opt: 325hp Yamaha 4.4v8 - Rwd only
. opt: 400+hp Yamaha 4.4v8 sc/turbo - Rwd only
. 'HRL': 500+hp supercharged 5.0v8 - Rwd only
(no engines shared with the Mustang)

$45-70k Mark-S (Panther) heavily revised - long wlb, shorter overhangs
(concept drawing by Joseph M. Sherlock at Lincoln-Club.org)
. base engine 300hp mod4.6v8 - Rwd only
. opt: 360hp hybrid4.6v8 - virtualAwd* only
. opt: 370hp mod5.0v8 - Rwd only
. opt: 400hp premium5.0v8 - Rwd only
. 'Panther': 500+hp supercharged 5.0v8 - Rwd only

$40-70k Lincoln Europa export-only, based on shorter wheelbase Galaxie/Marquis with largely aluminum body, would be Ford of Europe's luxury flagship sedan.
. base engines = diesels and 275hp 'mpg' 3.8v6 - Rwd only
. opt: 320hp premium3.8v6 - Rwd only
. opt: 350hp 3.8v6 low pressure turbo - Rwd only
. opt: 400hp 3.8v6 high pressure turbo - Rwd only
. opt: 500+hp supercharged 5.0v8 - Rwd only

$? Navigator
. base engine 300hp mod4.6v8 - 4wd only
. opt: 350hp mod5.0v8 - 4wd only
. opt: 400hp mod5.4v8 - 4wd only

$? LXT luxury pickup
. base engine 300hp mod4.6v8 - 4wd only
. opt: 350hp mod5.0v8 - 4wd only
. opt: 400hp mod5.4v8 - 4wd only



* Virtual-Awd employs electric-hybrid motors linked thru a computer-controlled software-only interface to the primary drive - Rwd in the Mark-S - tho also used to power the rear wheels in Ford's & Mercury's smaller hybrids that have a primary Fwd.