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07-27-2008, 01:50 AM
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New Ultimate Mercury/Lincoln Lineup!
With resent annoucement the Mercury will just sell small luxury cars to complement Lincoln, I had to revise my old and here it is. What do you think?
Mercury: Puma-City car; 3 door hatch Competes against upcoming small BMW Lynz-Sub compact car; 2 door coupe and convertible, sedan and 5 door hatch Competes against Mercedes A-Class, Audi A1 Comet-compact car;3 and 5 hatches, sedan First generation to be C2, next to be RWD based on MX-5 platform Competes against 1-Series, B-Class, upcoming Infiniti, A3 Bobcat-Compact tall wagon; 2 and 4 door wagon First gen to be C2, next based on RWD MX-5 platform Competes against no one so far Moon-Mid size MPV; 4 door Competes against no one so far Milan-Mid size car; sedan, wagon, 3 door hatch Competes against Lacrosse, TSX Meteor- RWD Compact coupes;2 and 4 door coupes, 2 door convertible RWD based on MX-5, coming out when Comet and Bobcart change over Competes against upcoming Mercedes CLA-Class Cyclone-Subcompact Crossover; 4 door Competes against Mini and BMW X1 Mariner-Compact crossover; 4 door 4 gen to be RWD Competes against X3,EX,GLK,Q5,RDX,LR2 Turnpike-subcompact crossover coupes;2,4 door coupes and 2 door convertible Competes against BMW X2 Monarch-RWD compact crossover coupes;2,4 door coupes and 2 door convertible Comes out at same time as RWD Mariner Competes against BMW X4 Capri-FWD sports car; coupe and convertible Ford Capri in Europe Competes against no one in US Cougar-RWD pony car; hard top and convertible Competes against no one Indigo-RWD rear engine lightweight 2 seat sports car; coupe and targa Competes against Lotus Elise Topaz-RWD rear engine lightweight 4 seat sports car; coupe, targa Competes against Lotus Evora Sable-FWD hybrid only compact car;sedan, 5 door notchback and wagon Competes against upcoming Lexas hybrid only compact car Lincoln: MkA(Aviator)-RWD full size crossover; 4 door Base engine is 3.5 EB so can not combine with MkT Competes against Gl-Class, upcoming Infiniti QX, Audi Q7, BMW X7 MkB-RWD mid size crossover; 4 door Competes against FX,X5, RR Sport, upcoming Lexas JX MKC(Continental)-RWD traditional Full size car; 4 door and 4 door long Competes against S-Class, 7-Series, A8, XJ, Q, LS MkF-RWD 2 seat super sports car; coupe and roadster Competes against Mercedes SLC, Lexas LF-A MkG-RWD rear engine 2 seat sports car;coupe and targa Competes against BMW M1 and Audi R8 MkH-RWD 4 seat sports car;coupe and convertible Competes against XLR, XK, SL, 8-Series MkI-RWd 2 seat sports car; coupe convertible Competes against TT, XE(E-Type), upcoming Infiniti, SLK, Z4. Buick Velite(if they decide to do it) MkK-RWD mid size coupes;2,4 door coupes and 2 door convertible Competes against Mercedes CLE-Class MkL-RWD Full size 4 door coupe;coupe and 4 door convertible Competes against Audi A7, 8-Series, CLS-Class, AM Raipide MkM(Marks)- RWD full size 2 door coupe, coupe and convertible Competes against CL-Class Navigator-RWD Full size SUV;4 door, Long, SUT Gets an aluminuim frame, Everest and Expedition merge to free up development money Competes against G-Class, Escalade, LR RR MkP-RWD mid size crossover coupes;2, 4 door coupes and 2,4 door convertibles Competes against X6 MkR-RWD mid size car;sedan, 3,5 door hatchs, wagon, lifted wagon like BMW F3 Competes against 3-Series, F3, CTS, IS, G, C-Class MkS(Sentinal)-RWD Full size car;2 door coupe and convertible,sedan, 3,5 door hatchback, wagon(shooting brake) Moves to RWD platform in next generation Competes against Rl, GS, M, A6, E,CLK-Series's, 5-Series, STS,XF MkT-FWD Full size crossover; 4 door and 5 door hatchback for BMW V5(PAS) Competes against RL, MDX, V5 MkW-RWD hybrid only mid size crossover; 4 door Competes against upcoming Lexas only hybrid midsize crossover MkX-FWD mid size crossover; 4 door Competes against RX and ML-Class MkZ(Zephyr)- FWD mid size car; 2 door coupe and convertible, sedan, 5 door hatch Competes against TL, A4 Plus Lincoln and Mercury would go global, not just Middle East and US Territories any more. Good? Last edited by ausrutherford : 07-30-2008 at 08:54 PM. |
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07-27-2008, 05:37 PM
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Re: New Ultimate Mercury/Lincoln Lineup!
The lineup's too big. Even at half that size it would be too big. Per the recent information coming out of Ford, Mercury should focus on smaller near luxury and/or sporty cars while Lincoln should focus on larger luxury sedans, crossovers, and SUVs. Lincoln's lineup is already shaping up this way but Mercury's is not yet and can use some change. Either division's lineup does not need to be very large in order to be distinctive and successful. In fact, I would bet that having less cars would makes things more simple and reduce overlap. That said, this is how I would want to see Lincoln/Mercury in the early half of the next decade:
Lincoln: MKZ: FWD/AWD entry level Lincoln sedan. Platform mate to Fusion, Milan, etc. Standard DI Duratec 37/6-speed auto with provision for sportier models. MKX: FWD/AWD entry level Lincoln crossover/SUV. Platform mate to Edge, etc. Standard DI Duratec 37/6-speed auto with provision for sportier models. MKS: Ideally RWD/AWD large Lincoln sedan. GRWD platform. Standard DI Duratec 37/6-speed auto with optional EcoBoost V6 and/or DI 5.0L DOHC V8. MKT: FWD/AWD large Lincoln crossover. Platform mate to Flex. Standard DI Duratec 37/6-speed auto with optional EcoBoost V6. MKR: RWD/AWD Lincoln four-door sport coupe. Spiritual successor to Mark VIII. GRWD platform. Standard EcoBoost V6/6-speed manumatic. Navigator: RWD/AWD large Lincoln SUV. Platform mate to Expedition. Standard 6.2L Boss V8/6-speed auto with optional 4.4L Diesel V8. Continental: RWD/AWD Lincoln flagship sedan. Standard DI 5.0L DOHC V8/6-speed auto. Mercury: Capri: FWD/AWD entry level Mercury sedan and coupe. Platform mate to Global Focus. Powertrain lineup resembles Focus. Milan: FWD/AWD midsize Mercury sedan. Platform mate to Fusion, MKZ, etc. Powertrain lineup resembles Fusion. Mariner: FWD/AWD entry level Mercury SUV. Platform mate to Escape. Powertrain lineup resembles Escape. Mountaineer: FWD/AWD midsize Mercury crossover. Real life version of Mercury Meta One concept. Platform mate to Flex. Powertrain lineup resembles Flex with provision for sportier models. Cougar: FWD/AWD midsize Mercury coupe. Spiritual successor to '99-'02 Cougar. Essentially a coupe version of the Milan in content but with a much sportier, more athletic appearance. Powertrain lineup resembles Milan with provision for sportier models (XR7). Cyclone: RWD Mercury two-seat roadster. Platform mate to Mazda MX-5 Miata (if possible) or future GRWD Thunderbird. Standard DI Duratec 37/6-speed auto or manual. |
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07-27-2008, 10:44 PM
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Re: New Ultimate Mercury/Lincoln Lineup!
different letter-discriminations than last time, Ausrutherford?
 anyhoo since I don't remember posting mine before, here's the latest it does NOT follow the small-Merc/big-Lincoln plan tho the smallest Mercs are smaller than the smallest Lincoln and the biggest Lincoln is bigger than the biggest Merc (wlbs/ovls are approx) Mercury _wlb___ovl__model____description________( * indicates a dual-hatch-trunklid like the Skoda Superb ) F-Awd— _?_ - 166 - Comet - 3d hatch (Escort-based ie btwn Fiesta & Focus) 100 - 174 - XR3/Capri - 2d*/glass-targa (longer,taller Reflex-based) 104 - 178 - Milanetto - 4d* (C2 Focus-based) 104 - 178 - Electron 5d (C-Max-based, Hybrid Only, unique style) 107 - 185 - ? - 5door hatch only (euro-ROTW-Mazda6-based; someone needs to import it!) 108 - 189 - Milan/MetaSpace - 4d*/5d-5pass 111 - 196 - MetaSpace+ - 5d-7pass (CX9-based, same styling as Milan &5pass) 111 - 193 - GrandMilan - 4d 114 - 196 - XR8 - 4d* sportsedan 117 - 201 - Marquis/MetaOne - 4d/5d 120 - 204 - GrandMarquis (& limos) - 4d Rwd— 110 - 182 - XR6 - 2+2d* & glass-targa (RX-8-based) 111 - 191 - anniversary Cougar (Mustang-based, every 10 years (sorry)) 117 - 199 - Orion / L.M.Custom - 4doors (AuFairlane / neoRetro familycar) yes, I know that's too many larger-than-Milan models - PICK 3, maybe 4... 5? 4wd— (all T6-based) ________ Trucklet™ - equivalent to a KingRanch Ranger pickup ________ Mesa - equivalent to a KingRanch Bronco Suv-let ________ Mariner - moderately offroadable micro-van-let Lincoln (minus the MucK names, plus a MARK!) F-Awd— 104 - 178 - Kuga - 5d Cuv 104 - 182 - Cosmopolitan - 2d Cabrio-Only (FocusCC-based) 108 - 191 - Zc - 2d coupe & glass-targa (Fusion-coupe-based) 111 - 188 - Aviator-Z - 5d Cuv 111 - 193 - Zxs - 4d (superZephyr built in Oakville,Canada) 120 - 208 - D4 'MkPeoplemover' 7doors! Rwd— 103 - 180 - Puma - 2seat glass-targa (GR2-based) 108 - 185 - Stallion - 2seat coupe/kevlar-vert (all aluminium, Mustang-based, built in AU) 111 - 192 - HRL - 2d 4pass Cabrio-Only 114 - 196 - Continental - 2+2d (opera doors) sedan 117 - 199 - Mark - 2d & glass-targa (MKR) 120 - 203 - TouringCar - 4d sedan 120 - 205 - 'G.T.V.' (GrandTouringVehicle) 5d, 4-5pass MKT-ish Cuv 123 - 210 - 'Panther' - flagship 4d sedan/presidential limo 4wd— (both F100-based) ________ LLT (LincolnLuxuryTruck) - equivalent to a Platinum+ F-100 ________ Navigator ( glass-targa = a mega-BAMR that slides over the rear window )
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07-27-2008, 11:56 PM
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Re: New Ultimate Mercury/Lincoln Lineup!
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Yea I had to change them because of all the change that lincoln and Mercury are going to go through. |
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