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Old 04-26-2009, 05:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The Fusion? For MY 2010, which its in? Hmm, I didn;t know the Fusion had a 1.6 EB in it
Did I say MY10? no. I said by the time the Malibu gets DI, the Fusion will get the 1.6EB which is for late MY11 or MY12.
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Did I say MY10? no. I said by the time the Malibu gets DI, the Fusion will get the 1.6EB which is for late MY11 or MY12.
According to nsap the bu could get the di in the middle of 10my.
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According to nsap the bu could get the di in the middle of 10my.
That word says it all.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That word says it all.
And we dont have any proof that the eb you talk about even exists. Do we?
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And we dont have any proof that the eb you talk about even exists. Do we?
Ah, yes we do. It was previewed in the Lincoln Concept C and Ford Iosis Max concept.

The engine will see its duties in the Ranger, focus, fusion, milan, Kuga/Escape, C-max, etc.
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Ah, yes we do. It was previewed in the Lincoln Concept C and Ford Iosis Max concept.

The engine will see its duties in the Ranger, focus, fusion, milan, Kuga/Escape, C-max, etc.
And the V16 was previewed in the cadillac 16 concept. It gets 25 MPG and will be in everything from escalade to camaro.
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Yeah, concepts can be clear indicators, but I believe that the 1.6 EB is coming
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It looks like the S, SE, and SEL get 23/34 with the 4 cyl auto trans, according to:
http://media.ford.com/press_kits_det...ection_id=2878

FUEL ECONOMY (city/hwy)
2.5-liter I-4 6-Speed Manual (S)
22/31

2.5-liter I-4 6-Speed Auto (S)
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2.5-liter I-4 6-Speed Manual (SE/SEL)
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2.5-liter I-4 6-Speed Auto (SE/SEL)
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3.0-liter V-6, 6-Speed SelectShift Automatic™ (FWD)
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3.0-liter V-6, 6-Speed SelectShift Automatic™ (AWD)
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3.5-liter V-6 FWD
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3.5-liter V-6 AWD
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The V6 economy is pretty ordinary! but yeah, I4 is definitely commendable at 23/34. Very thrifty. Who's driven one? Impressions?
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The V6 economy is pretty ordinary! but yeah, I4 is definitely commendable at 23/34. Very thrifty. Who's driven one? Impressions?
I may be test driving one this week...will be posting my impressions if I do.
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That word says it all.
Yeah but you could also argue that this generation of Fusion wont get any DI or ecoboost before the merged platform with the Mondeo. I mean I believe Ford has already invested heavily in this updated '10 model and wont bother with any more engine choices.

Thats just my opintion of what I "think" Ford will do. And also from prior let downs with the FoMoCo on delivering certain products. I just dunno. I bet the focus with EB is on the "focus" and the larger vehicles with the 3.5
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And the V16 was previewed in the cadillac 16 concept. It gets 25 MPG and will be in everything from escalade to camaro.
It goes beyond concepts. Ford has had several press releases pledging to make EcoBoost engines available in over 90% of their North American lineup by 2013. Since the EcoBoost V6 is only suitable for larger cars this means there must be a smaller engine (four cylinder) offered in smaller cars to ensure the EcoBoost coverage they're claiming.
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Yeah but you could also argue that this generation of Fusion wont get any DI or ecoboost before the merged platform with the Mondeo. I mean I believe Ford has already invested heavily in this updated '10 model and wont bother with any more engine choices.

Thats just my opintion of what I "think" Ford will do. And also from prior let downs with the FoMoCo on delivering certain products. I just dunno. I bet the focus with EB is on the "focus" and the larger vehicles with the 3.5
The F-150 gets all new engines for MY11 and is all new for MY12.
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Re: Fusion I4 Fuel Economy: What Gives?

The base S is lighter and uses smaller lower rolling resistance 16" tires. There may also be a difference in gearing. The 6 speed stick uses a 4.38:1 ratio for instance so the automatic SE and SEL may uses a wilder ratio than the S model for peppier performance. Ford also does this on the new 2010 Taurus with the better models pulling snappier gears.
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