[FORD]: NEW Scorpion V8 Diesel Information (post 63 - prelim power numbers)

[Michael_S]

Originally Posted by Cabana Boy

Cool name.
I hope it does not sting them in the end

Now that's a perfect post.

[fenderbender]

Originally Posted by Cabana Boy

Cool name.
I hope it does not sting them in the end

But stings the competition

[Cabana Boy]

WOW, kidding aside, I think they have a great name here. Although it does not have the "hemi" equity, it does sound bad-ass.

[FordFan]

Navistar better start filing chapter 11.

[dauntlessVsix]

Originally Posted by igor

UPDATE

It seems the decision to develop an in house Diesel is not a recent one - but was amade at least 12 months ago.

At this moment, Ford has an In-House SuperDuty V8 diesel PRogram Called Scorpion and this program has 6.7l V8 Turbo Diesel engines up and running on Dynos ..

no more details right now, but I will kee you posted.

Igor

This is great news with a great name.

I have to wonder though if Ford neglected the 6.4 during final testing to concentrate more on the new Scorpion. If the 6.4 turns out anything like the 6.0, it won't matter how good the Scorpion is.

Is there any clue how soon we may see this engine?

[Strapping.Young.Lad]

Scorpion is a Terrible Name.

[Cabana Boy]

Originally Posted by FordRules

Scorpion is a Terrible Name.

Says you.

I think it's perfect

[doh]

Originally Posted by napolron

This is what I was told the problem is.

Ford is post injecting fuel after the combustion event as a means of dosing the diesel oxidation catalyst with hydrocarbons. This generates considerable heat in the DOC which heats the diesel particulate filter (DPF) and starts a regeneration. Regeneration of the DPF is done to burn out the soot that accumulates which essentially self cleans the filter and reduces the backpressure. The post injections only occur at low load conditions where the exhaust itself is not hot engouh to make the DPF regenerate on its own. They've probably discovered that they are forcing these active regenerations at too high of load which is causing excessive temps. This will change the number of regenerations that occur and over the life of the vehicle which will probably affect filter life.

It could very well be, but they should be able to get the regeneration temps, somewhere between cutting torch, and to cold to do the job.

[rhvfd10]

Originally Posted by FordFan

Navistar better start filing chapter 11.

You don't know very much about them do you? Navistar is one heck of a diverse corporation that makes everything from school buses to fire truck chassis. The ford contract is but a minor portion of their sales.

[doh]

Originally Posted by rhvfd10

You don't know very much about them do you? Navistar is one heck of a diverse corporation that makes everything from school buses to fire truck chassis. The ford contract is but a minor portion of their sales.

True, they pretty much own the 19000-33000 GVWR truck segment.

[FordFan]

Originally Posted by rhvfd10

You don't know very much about them do you? Navistar is one heck of a diverse corporation that makes everything from school buses to fire truck chassis. The ford contract is but a minor portion of their sales.

No I didn't.

[MN12Fan]

Here's the new engine's logo :

[benroethig]

Originally Posted by dratnol

Does Cat or Detroit Diesel have anything currently that Ford could use? I know that Cat was an option on the F550 a few years ago.

Can't doesn't do truck engine and Detroit Diesel or more or less merged into Mercedes diesel. If do don't something for Dodge, I doubt they're going to build ford an engine.

[Cabana Boy]

Ford has been making engines for a long time. I am sure they have studied Diesels carefully and can certainly make one that is not only more competitive, but free of all the QC issues, because their processes are improving all the time.

[ChevyRacing48]

Originally Posted by Cabana Boy

Ford has been making engines for a long time.

But none of them have been making diesels for a long time, or any period of time. Diesel engines are a whole different science.

GM tried making a 350 into one.....ouch, and the 6.5, ouch again. Although there are some 6.5 GM diesel fanatics out there.

The Duramax saved GM HD's.

There is a reason why all the big 3 have sourced diesels.......