Ford 6.2L Official numbers are out

[XCR440SP]

I don't think the 6.2L will be Flex fuel. The reason is that it isn't meant to be used in F-150's. The reason the 5.4L (and 5.3L, and most others) is flex fuel is due to CAFE. The Flex fuel gives the engine a much better rating on Corporate Average Fuel Economy.

The 6.2L is going to be the engine for the 2011 Super Duty and will be common in that application. Over 8500# GVWR vehicles are considered commercial and therefore don't need the E-85 loophole to avoid CAFE fines. Thats why the 5.4L currently in the Super Duty isn't flex fuel while the F-150 is.

The F-150 will be rarely seen in with a 6.2L so I don't see a need to make this distinction for that market. How many 6.2L Chevy trucks have you seen? I've never found one on a lot at any of the nearby dealerships. I expect the 6.2L Ford to be simmilar, found in special editions (Raptor/Harley?) but rarely seen in normal trucks.


I'm also waiting to see the power curves, or at least the RPM the peak numbers are at. I have a hunch they're going to be at high RPM's like the Hemi and the 6.2L GM engine. Otherwise why would Ford continue to offer the V10 on the heavier DRW trucks? I think the 6.2L will work well for most SRW truck buyer, but won't be as good as the V10 at pulling, but will best all the competitors gas engines so I guess thats what counts.

[vcs2600]

Originally Posted by theoldwizard

Highly unlikely.

The Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Towne Car will likely be "built out" with the old tired 2V 4.6L. Same for the E-Series.

Neither will likely even get the new 5.0L.

Is there a replacement planned for the E-series?

[igor]

Originally Posted by vcs2600

Is there a replacement planned for the E-series?

Transit.
Although my understanding was the e-series will get its won replacement and Transit will slot beneath it.

[61BelAir]

Looking forward to see what numbers they will be putting down on the chassis dyno.

[Buick61]

SO. This is just going in the Raptor and the Super Duties? That's what I've been able to glean from the press releases.

The F150 still won't have a motor to go against either the widely available 390hp/410lb-ft 5.7L Hemi in the Ram or the very limited availability 403hp/417lb-ft 6.2L Vortec V8 in the Silverado (2wd LTZ Crew Cabs only (like, why even offer it if it's that restricted?). Even the 367hp/375lb-ft 6.0L Vortec outguns the best F-150 mill.

Oh well, the lack of a decent motor hasn't really hurt sales. I suppose Ford buyers just don't care.

[Michael_S]

Originally Posted by igor

Transit.
Although my understanding was the e-series will get its won replacement and Transit will slot beneath it.

We need to replace our five passenger small SUV with a six passenger vehicle, and I would much rather get a fullsize van than a second minivan. But the only fullsize passenger van with full length side curtain airbags as an option is the $40,000 Sprinter, and I don't have that kind of money.

I bet Ford unveils the next E-Series with full length side curtain airbags two days after we buy another minivan.

[wescoent]

Originally Posted by Buick61

SO. This is just going in the Raptor and the Super Duties? That's what I've been able to glean from the press releases.

The F150 still won't have a motor to go against either the widely available 390hp/410lb-ft 5.7L Hemi in the Ram or the very limited availability 403hp/417lb-ft 6.2L Vortec V8 in the Silverado (2wd LTZ Crew Cabs only (like, why even offer it if it's that restricted?). Even the 367hp/375lb-ft 6.0L Vortec outguns the best F-150 mill.

Oh well, the lack of a decent motor hasn't really hurt sales. I suppose Ford buyers just don't care.

For next year... F-150 engine lineup:

3.7L V6: 270-315hp (unknown at this point how it'll be tuned)
5.0L V8: 360hp
3.5L V6TT: 425hp

Any questions?

[Buick61]

Originally Posted by wescoent

For next year... F-150 engine lineup:

3.7L V6: 270-315hp (unknown at this point how it'll be tuned)
5.0L V8: 360hp
3.5L V6TT: 425hp

Any questions?

Yes, what are the torque figures?

[Slideways]

Originally Posted by Buick61

The F150 still won't have a motor to go against the very limited availability 403hp/417lb-ft 6.2L Vortec V8 in the Silverado (2wd LTZ Crew Cabs only (like, why even offer it if it's that restricted?)

I don't know about LTZ numbers, but 2wd Crew Cabs have got to be the #1 selling cab/drivetrain combination. Still, I wish its availability weren't an issue.

[Buick61]

Originally Posted by Slideways

I don't know about LTZ numbers, but 2wd Crew Cabs have got to be the #1 selling cab/drivetrain combination. Still, I wish its availability weren't an issue.

Perhaps your area. But here where there is actual precipitation, people tend to get trucks with 4WD.

[Slideways]

Originally Posted by Buick61

Perhaps your area. But here where there is actual precipitation, people tend to get trucks with 4WD.

I'd bet that Chevy sells more 2wd trucks than 4wd, nationwide. I think the real limiting factor is the LTZ trim level.

[RangeRover]

Originally Posted by Buick61

Yes, what are the torque figures?

That is a good question. The only engine that I am concerned about is the 3.7. The V8 torque should be fine and the 3.5TT will be ecoboost so no issues with torque there.

The F-series will be class leading/competitive in HP from top to bottom.

[XCR440SP]

Originally Posted by Buick61

SO. This is just going in the Raptor and the Super Duties? That's what I've been able to glean from the press releases.

The F150 still won't have a motor to go against either the widely available 390hp/410lb-ft 5.7L Hemi in the Ram or the very limited availability 403hp/417lb-ft 6.2L Vortec V8 in the Silverado (2wd LTZ Crew Cabs only (like, why even offer it if it's that restricted?). Even the 367hp/375lb-ft 6.0L Vortec outguns the best F-150 mill.

Oh well, the lack of a decent motor hasn't really hurt sales. I suppose Ford buyers just don't care.

Most buyers don't care. Remember 10 years ago the biggest gas engine you could get in a Ford truck was the then new 6.8L V10 in the Super Duty F-Series with a whoping 275 Horsepower. We've had a decade of power hungry times, but its slowing down. 300 is plenty of power for 90% of buyers. Go look at a GM dealer and you'll find every 1/2 ton will have a 5.3L, I never see a 6.2L and have only seen a couple of Vortex Max 6.0L 1/2 tons.

If buyers really were as stuck on Horsepower as many on this site belive, Dodge sales would be through the roof because they are the only large 1/2 ton truck manufacturer with big horsepower engines in the majority of their trucks.

Honestly we've started seeing a increase in 4.6L 3V sales now that the fuel economy has improved on it. With a 4x4 getting 2 mpg better than the 5.4L, its still got more power than the 2V 5.4L had and most people are plenty happy after a test drive. Heck the local Sheriff's department got a new F-150 this spring and even went with the 4.6L 3V.

[RamJet502]

Originally Posted by wescoent

For next year... F-150 engine lineup:

3.7L V6: 270-315hp (unknown at this point how it'll be tuned)
5.0L V8: 360hp
3.5L V6TT: 425hp

Any questions?

What happened to 400hp out of the 5.0L?

I thought that might have been a little optimistic when Ford's "only" getting 411hp out of the 6.2L

[Extreme4x4]

Ford has always had a different tune for their car and truck engines.

400hp for Mustang..................... 360hp for trucks.