CTS Wagon Vs. TSX Wagon

[-World Class-]

Am I alone when I say I don't care for wagons much...at all?

I'm all for utility and sportiness but....ugh....

The CTS wagon is the FIRST station wagon that actually looks 'decent' to me. Probably because it's a 'sport wagon' with a higher emphasis on on style/design than functionality.

[Olds88]

Originally Posted by TuffG929

Those were great for their time, but if we still had them, Buick would be in the trash heap with Pontiac and Saturn.

Whaddya mean great for their time? A 94 Roadmaster is 15 years old and still more capable than a 2009 Traverse, with similar fuel economy. The Roadmaster also performs better. Imagine if we had a 2009 5.3L model to compare to Traverse. If GM kept the B-Body and kept it up-to-date it could be doing 95% of what the Tahoe does at a fraction of its cost.

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by TuffG929

The TSX and CTS are not in the same size/price class. Until GM decides that Buick should get a Regal wagon, the CTS wagon is the only car in GM's stable that we can compare to Acura's "new" offering. Now to stir the pot...






Opel Insignia OPC Sports Tourer pictured

Now THAT is a sexy wagon.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by -World Class-

Am I alone when I say I don't care for wagons much...at all?

I'm all for utility and sportiness but....ugh....

The CTS wagon is the FIRST station wagon that actually looks 'decent' to me. Probably because it's a 'sport wagon' with a higher emphasis on on style/design than functionality.

Did you like the Magnum at all? It was quite stylish, except for maybe the front end...both versions. I'd take a wagon over a hatch-back any day!

[TuffG929]

Originally Posted by Olds88

Whaddya mean great for their time? A 94 Roadmaster is 15 years old and still more capable than a 2009 Traverse, with similar fuel economy. The Roadmaster also performs better. Imagine if we had a 2009 5.3L model to compare to Traverse. If GM kept the B-Body and kept it up-to-date it could be doing 95% of what the Tahoe does at a fraction of its cost.

I mean BOF sedans and wagons don't really have a place in 2009. Don't get me wrong..one of my favorite vehicles of all time is the 1996 Impala SS. But 2009 is a different time.

[ohmywrd8]

CTS wins by a long shot in my opinion. Honda/Acura's new design theme just seems like the design team ran out of ideas and they just started putting in huge chunky grey interiors and buck tooth grills. The new Accord is nice IMO but everything else Honda or Acura has is just looks like an atrocity.

[-World Class-]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

Did you like the Magnum at all? It was quite stylish, except for maybe the front end...both versions. I'd take a wagon over a hatch-back any day!

Oh yeahh, I do like the Magnum as well. That's one bad car. But really?? I dunno...I'd rather have a nice sporty hot hatch.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by ohmywrd8

CTS wins by a long shot in my opinion. Honda/Acura's new design theme just seems like the design team ran out of ideas and they just started putting in huge chunky grey interiors and buck tooth grills. The new Accord is nice IMO but everything else Honda or Acura has is just looks like an atrocity.

I'd lump the Accord in the Hideous category as well. The Coupe version looks a little better than the sedan, but ugh! It's pretty bad.

[GM-10]

Originally Posted by Olds88

If we still had these we wouldn't need Traverses.

No...we would need blinders to protect our eyes.

[cdp326]

The Audi Q5 and Q7 have the rear lamps on the tailgate like the Insignia, but they also have lower lights set in the bumpers. I'm not sure of the function of the lights, however (rear fog lamp, etc.).

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

I thought a side by side would be nice

That just highlights how bizarre the D pillar of the CTS Wagon looks.

And really compare the CTS Wagon to the TSX? The TSX will probably be cheaper by a large margin, and it is not as big as the CTS is.

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by Olds88

Whaddya mean great for their time? A 94 Roadmaster is 15 years old and still more capable than a 2009 Traverse, with similar fuel economy. The Roadmaster also performs better. Imagine if we had a 2009 5.3L model to compare to Traverse. If GM kept the B-Body and kept it up-to-date it could be doing 95% of what the Tahoe does at a fraction of its cost.

A BOF car will probably fall on it's face nowadays....its heavier than a unibody so it will get worse fuel economy, and less weight available for cargo, it won't have as capable brakes so its not going to tow as great, and because of the nature of the chassis mounting, its going to handle like crap. You essentially get a less capable SUV in the process.

I could see a BOF car being useful for a base structure for an armored car, but even then, there are plenty of unibody cars that can do that. A BOF-based car has no place nowadays.

[calgaryhhr]

Originally Posted by -World Class-

Am I alone when I say I don't care for wagons much...at all?

I'm all for utility and sportiness but....ugh....

The CTS wagon is the FIRST station wagon that actually looks 'decent' to me. Probably because it's a 'sport wagon' with a higher emphasis on on style/design than functionality.

To each their own. The feelings you have towards wagons are probably the same feelings I have towards pick up trucks and SUV's.

For wagon enthusiast it is good to see more choices becoming available in the future. The only wagons previously available were European luxury wagons and wagons from VW and Subaru (maybe the HHR, Vibe/Matrix) all of which were really pretty good choices.

[calgaryhhr]

Originally Posted by Xenon

That just highlights how bizarre the D pillar of the CTS Wagon looks.

And really compare the CTS Wagon to the TSX? The TSX will probably be cheaper by a large margin, and it is not as big as the CTS is.

I think the CTS wagon might look a little better with slightly more glass behind the c pillar. I think it might have been designed with more sheet metal to try and "mask" or hide the fact it is a wagon. Maybe the designers thought more glass = more obvious wagon = bad ????