CTS Wagon Vs. TSX Wagon - Page 2

Uzzy · 11-02-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TuffG929

Opel Insignia OPC Sports Tourer pictured

Do the tail lights lift up with the gate? Is that legal here? I've never seen it before. It would mean you can't with the gate up at all.

TuffG929 · 11-02-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Uzzy

Do the tail lights lift up with the gate? Is that legal here? I've never seen it before. It would mean you can't with the gate up at all.

They do... But once it's open, there appears to be a secondary set of reverse/brake lights. So i suppose, if necessary, you could drive with the tailgate open. Not sure if it's legal though.

Simon says · 11-02-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

I thought a side by side would be nice

Actually it was very nice . . .

Uzzy · 11-02-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TuffG929

Well I'll be...ain't that sumthin' else?

Smoothcat · 11-02-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TuffG929

Just a guess... but I bet there would still need to be some modifications for the States, since the CHMBL probably wouldn't be visible.

TuffG929 · 11-02-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoothcat

Just a guess... but I bet there would still need to be some modifications for the States, since the CHMBL probably wouldn't be visible.

I doubt it. When you open the rear gate on a Cadillac Escalade, the CHMBL is no longer visible.

Smoothcat · 11-02-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TuffG929

I doubt it. When you open the rear gate on a Cadillac Escalade, the CHMBL is no longer visible.

Hmm... guess maybe I'm wrong. I assumed that was a non-negotiable thing.

mbukukanyau · 11-02-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TuffG929

They do... But once it's open, there appears to be a secondary set of reverse/brake lights. So i suppose, if necessary, you could drive with the tailgate open. Not sure if it's legal though.

This is awesome, I cannot Believe Buick will not bring this wagon stateside.

GMusa · 11-02-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mgescuro

Improper comparison.

It should be 5-series Touring.

Yep.

GMusa · 11-02-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

This is awesome, I cannot Believe Buick will not bring this wagon stateside.

did GM say for sure the Opel wagon wont make it state side?

TuffG929 · 11-02-2009, 06:58 PM

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Yep.

So then maybe we should compare it to the above pictured Insignia Tourer which could make it stateside.

Simon says · 11-02-2009, 07:03 PM

So many great station wagons that could, but wont, make it stateside . . .

. . . but the reality is that America gave up on this quintessential American vehicle in favor of the SUV. Fairly or not (and I am in the NOT camp, actually one of my vehicles is a station wagon) the station wagon has a stigma of boredom, not unlike that of the minivan . . . which totally deserves it.

jzchev28 · 11-02-2009, 07:22 PM

the CTS wagon sure is nice, but man oh man that opel wagon is pretty hot as well

Olds88 · 11-02-2009, 07:35 PM

Aren't wagons supposed to be utilty vehicles? ALL modern wagons fail at this purpose.

There has not been a wagon built to date that can match or even come close to the utility of this. The cargo capacity, 8 seats, 7000lb towing capacity... If we still had these we wouldn't need Traverses.

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Originally Posted by Simon says

So many great station wagons that could, but wont, make it stateside . . .

. . . but the reality is that America gave up on this quintessential American vehicle in favor of the SUV. Fairly or not (and I am in the NOT camp, actually one of my vehicles is a station wagon) the station wagon has a stigma of boredom, not unlike that of the minivan . . . which totally deserves it.

I will cling to my b-body wagon until my death or a find a clean 94-96 Roadmaster Estate, which ever comes first. None of these modern wagons are anything like what the American wagon used to represent, which was basically what the SUV represents: utility.

TuffG929 · 11-02-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Olds88

Aren't wagons supposed to be utilty vehicles? ALL modern wagons fail at this purpose.

There has not been a wagon built to date that can match or even come close to the utility of this. The cargo capacity, 8 seats, 7000lb towing capacity... If we still had these we wouldn't need Traverses.

Those were great for their time, but if we still had them, Buick would be in the trash heap with Pontiac and Saturn.

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