GM Forum / GM News GM Forum / GM News
 
Go Back   GM Inside News Forum > Discussion Area > The Tech Forum
Register Home Forum Active Topics eBay Marketplace Media Gallery Mark Forums Read

Please Visit our Site Sponsors

GM Inside News & GM Forum is the premier GM Forum and GM News Source on the internet. We discuss all GM models on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-17-2008, 04:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
doh
6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8
 
doh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: N.W.Ontario
Posts: 5,559
Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayof...ets/index.html

Secret #1: Use two buckets to wash

Detailers know that the two bucket method is the best way to get your exterior clean. Use one bucket to hold your clean suds, and another bucket to hold clean water. Before you dip your cleaning mitt into the clean suds, rinse it off in the clean water bucket and wring it dry.

Then, you're always putting a clean mitt into the clean suds that will go on your car. If you only use one bucket, you're just moving dirt off of your car, into your suds and back onto your car.

Some pros have started using the Grit Guard insert, a $9.99 tray that helps sediment settle to the bottom of your wash bucket, instead of getting stirred up in the water and recollected on your wash mitt. AOL Autos: Hybrids that will save you the most

Secret #2: Join the microfiber revolution

We're living the microfiber revolution. Pro detailers use color-coded, task-specific microfiber cloths and towels for greater efficiency, lower friction and scratching and easier washing, rinsing and drying. Mike Pennington, director of training and consumer relations for Meguiars, emphasizes that it's important to wash your microfiber as a separate load, not mixed in with the regular laundry and rags.

Microfiber will trap the lint from cotton towels, defeating the purpose of the wash. Use very little detergent and skip the fabric softener, which will coat the fibers and inhibit microfiber's qualities. Double up on the rinse cycle, and your microfiber will perform at its best. Remove any labels and stitching before you use your towels to avoid scratching.

And remember, you get what you pay for -- those cheapo packs of microfiber from the warehouse store are not nearly as good as the ones you can find at online specialty stores.

Secret #3: Detail your trim first

This tip comes from Jim Dvorak, a product specialist at Mothers Polish. He suggests using a trim protectant/restorer like Mothers' Back to Black before waxing your paint. Wash and dry your vehicle, then apply the trim protectant.

The product will repel polish and wax that might otherwise stain your trim. Some pro detailers use masking tape to protect the trim during waxing -- this application can help save time and cleanup.

Secret #4: Use a buffer to apply product, a towel to remove

Consumers sometimes get confused by the name of the tool, and use a power buffer to remove wax or polish from the painted surfaces of their cars. A buffer can leave erratic swirl marks in your clear coat and paint if used to remove product, that's not what it's for.

Use the buffer to apply wax, and then use a soft, dry cloth to remove it. You'll avoid burning the paint or damaging the clear coat, and you'll wind up with a thin, even coat of wax.

Secret #5: Get a dual action polisher

For just a little bit more than you'd spend on a good direct drive polisher and an orbital polisher, you can get the perfect blend of both tools with a dual action polisher like the Flex XC 3401 VRG, which retails for around $280.

Based in Stuttgart, Germany, Flex has been making tools since 1922, and has been building dedicated auto finish polishers since 1988. The XC 3401 VRG is detailer Randy Lowe's favorite tool for exterior finishes. He says that it will handle 90% of the polishing chores you will encounter.

Meguiars' Dual Action Polisher ($149) is a little more consumer friendly, and a little less expensive than the Flex. It doesn't have the forced rotation, which keeps the tool moving even under a heavy load. Forced rotation is a great feature for an expert who knows how to use it; in inexperienced hands, it can do more harm than good.

Secret #6: Use a clay bar system

This secret may be out of the bag already, but it's such a good one that it bears repeating. There's no better way to remove surface contaminants from paint than with a good clay bar system. Pros have been using clay for years, and consumer versions have been on the market for at least a decade.

A good clay bar system includes a spray lubricant, usually a detailing spray, an 80 - 100 gram clay bar, and a towel. According to Mike Pennington from Meguiars, after washing and drying your car, you rub the clay bar on the paint to remove "bonded environmental contaminants" without removing paint thickness.

The smoother paint surface takes polishing and wax better, and extends the life of subsequent treatments. Meguiars' Smooth Surface Clay Kit retails for $19.99; Mothers' California Gold Clay Bar Paint Saving System is $19.95.

Secret #7: Use a plastic grocery bag to check the paint surface

Hers's another tip from Jim Dvorak at Mothers. Once you have cleaned your paint's surface of contaminants with a clay bar system or other cleaner, it's important to make sure that you've really removed all the dirt before you seal the surface with wax.

Put your hand in an ordinary thin plastic grocery bag, and run it over the surface of the paint. The plastic bag will amplify any bumps and imperfections, so that you can go back and detail again. Keep rechecking until the surface is totally smooth, then polish (if necessary) and apply protective wax.

Secret #8: Dry your glass in two directions

Here's a great tip from Meguiars' Pennington: Dry your glass in two directions. Get into the habit of doing your final wipe of interior glass in a horizontal direction, and the final wipe on the exterior in a vertical direction.

Then, when you find the inevitable streak, you'll instantly know whether it's on the inside (horizontal) or the outside (vertical) of the glass. You'll get perfectly clear glass without jumping in and out of the vehicle chasing that streak.

Secret #9: Brush it first

Pennington says that when it comes to cleaning interiors, mechanical agitation is always better than chemical intervention. That means that your first line of attack is a good brush.

For instance, before vacuuming your carpeting, de-mat the fibers by using a stiff nylon brush. Then, when you vacuum, the dirt will be free in the carpet, and will be much easier to extract. The same goes for door panels, though you'll want to use a gentler brush. If more aggressive cleaning is necessary, start gently, use a gentle solution of fabric cleaner, and dry with a soft cotton cloth.

Secret #10: Make static electricity your friend

To remove stubborn pet hair from your car's carpets, put on a pair of latex gloves (readily available in boxes of 100 from any home improvement store) and then rub your hand over the carpet. The static electricity caused by the latex glove will help bring the pet hair up to the surface of the carpet for easy removal by hand or vacuum.

Secret #11: Leave the headliner alone

According to Pennington, there's one part of the car that detailers avoid if at all possible: the headliner. Even a little bit of agitation can cause the glue in a headliner to fail, causing way more problems than it is worth. Keep your ministrations to a minimum when it comes to cleaning, brushing and tending to the headliner fabric.

If you positively must clean your headliner, use very little moisture, and never allow it to soak through the outer fabric.

Auto detailing can be a great way to bond with your car, and to make your automotive investment go farther, last longer and look better. Hopefully these top secrets will help you and your ride along the way.
doh is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 10-17-2008, 04:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 323
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Now I feel like washing my car. Damn you cold NY weather!
Pedal 2 Metal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8
 
BrickTamland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Waterville, OH
Drives: 2007 Mazda 3 s
Posts: 6,102
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

A lot of god stuff there, but the one that was new to me was drying the inside and outside of the windows in different directions. That makes a lot of sense.
__________________
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Current: Galaxy Gray 2007 Mazda 3 s Grand Touring
Former: Super Black 2003 Nissan Maxima SE
Brilliant Blue Metallic 1995 Ford Explorer XLT 4WD
BrickTamland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 04:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 264
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Cool find - thanks for posting!
__________________
2009 Pontiac G8 GT
2008 Saturn Vue Green Line
2002 Olds Intrigue GLS - soon on the chopping block
1996 Chevy Beretta Z26
2009 Honda Odyssey EX-L
BerettaZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 05:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
1.8 Liter ECOTEC
 
imcgary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 31
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

that is great. i think i might send this out to all of my sold customers so that i get some really quality trade-ins down the line.
imcgary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 05:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
GMI Staff Member
Premium Member
 
GMCSonoma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,053
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Doh, I am moving this to the tech forum and I'm gonna sticky it...
__________________
GM dealer parts manager...for a lot of years!
Please post all tech questions to the GMI Tech Forum, not my message box! Thanks!
GMCSonoma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 06:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
6.0 Liter L76 V8
 
IROCNROL1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Fairfax, Iowa
Posts: 2,467
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Sounds labor intensive. Do you make house calls?
__________________
www.timmyshavingfun.com Political commentary welcome, all bans banned.

I may be shallow, but counter it by also being dense.
IROCNROL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 06:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
6.0 Liter L76 V8
 
Shotgun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southeast USA
Drives: 1999 GMC, 2007 Buick, 2005 Chevrolet
Posts: 2,275
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrickTamland View Post
A lot of god stuff there, but the one that was new to me was drying the inside and outside of the windows in different directions. That makes a lot of sense.
So true. Pain in the rear after you're done to get rid of a few streaks. Figuring out which side just adds more time and effort.
Shotgun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 06:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
doh
6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8
 
doh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: N.W.Ontario
Posts: 5,559
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMCSonoma View Post
Doh, I am moving this to the tech forum and I'm gonna sticky it...
Cool My first Sticky! Thanks

I used to do this after hours at work, before I had kids. I enjoy it, takes my mind off of the days troubles. Not that I do it to my own though.
doh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 07:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
GMI Staff Member
Premium Member
 
GMCSonoma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,053
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Quote:
Originally Posted by doh View Post
Cool My first Sticky! Thanks

I used to do this after hours at work, before I had kids. I enjoy it, takes my mind off of the days troubles. Not that I do it to my own though.
You are welcome my friend!
__________________
GM dealer parts manager...for a lot of years!
Please post all tech questions to the GMI Tech Forum, not my message box! Thanks!
GMCSonoma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 09:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
News Contributor
 
91 s-10baja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Kirkland, WA
Drives: 2004 Cadillac CTS 1991 Chevrolet S-10 Baja Editio
Posts: 4,562
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

VERY good post, thanks! The Headliner is a great one!
__________________
http://www.northwestautosalon.com/

My Rides (2004 Cadillac CTS Lux/sprt, 1991 Chevrolet S-10 Baja):
http://flickr.com/photos/45118511@N00/
http://www.youtube.com/user/bajabusta
Quote:
"I know a lot about cars. I can look at a car's headlights and tell you exactly which way it's coming." - Mitch Hedberg ...
91 s-10baja is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2008, 09:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
doh
6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8
 
doh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: N.W.Ontario
Posts: 5,559
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 91 s-10baja View Post
VERY good post, thanks! The Headliner is a great one!
Thanks Baja, The head liner thing has been known for a while. The first thing that a dealer tries to do with a smokey trade in is "Get it outa the seats/carpet/Headliner.

The headliner is "Very Delicate" try the HVAC unit first.
doh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2008, 01:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
GMI Staff Member
Premium Member
 
shadams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas Hill Country
Drives: 09' G8 GT 08' GMC X-CAB
Posts: 3,347
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Good tips. My second stop in the shop was Makeready/Used car detail. We didnt have the luxury of the microfiber towels then, just the rough blue ones which made cleaning windows and wiping down cars a nightmare. I used to bring in white t-shirst for that.

One tip I have that I always do is this. I use a super fine grit steel wool on the glass, then wax the glass when I finish wax the car. That way when it rains, the water beads up and runs off, and lessens the chance of water spots, which makes them a lot easier to clean down the road. You dont want to use polish or heavy wax, but something like a really light finishing wax or even a spray wax works great..
__________________
2008 GMC Sierra XCab Z-71 4x4 Onyx Black
2009 G8 GT Magnetic Gray

GM/ASE Certified Service Consultant
MOE Platinum 04-05-06-07-08

"Contrary to common belief, planning is complicated and is not run by complete idiots, so you'll just have to trust that the decisions were made on good information that's not made available to you."
shadams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2008, 01:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
Editor-in-Chief
Premium Member
 
nsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Drives: 2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT
Posts: 17,721
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Excellent tips.

I always have a hell of a time getting glass perfect. It almost always streaks. I've tried a dozen types of paper towels, newspaper, whatever.
__________________

Get the latest news from GMI...Join the "GMInsidenews.com Facebook Page!!
Follow me on TWITTER
E-Mail Me
nsap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2008, 01:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
GMI Staff Member
Premium Member
 
BigAls87Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 10,654
Re: Top 11 secrets of auto detailers

Get Stoner's Invisible Glass in the can, not spray, and news paper.
No streaks, no smudges, nothing. Looks great every time, and VERY VERY clear! Then I put on some RainX and im golden.
__________________
Alexander Villani
GMInsideNews Editor
Email Me @BigAl@GMInsidenews.com
Tweet Me @Twitter.com/BigAls87Z28
2009 Malibu LT 2.4 : 1987 Camaro Z28 : 1972 Camaro RS
BigAls87Z28 is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  GM Inside News Forum > Discussion Area > The Tech Forum



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:31 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
©2008 GMInsidenews.com.
GMInsideNews.com is not affiliated with GM, General Motors or any GM Divisions in any capacity.
GMInsideNews.com is an enthusiasts' forum dedicated entirely to news about GM vehicles.