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    Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    Anyone have an image of the actual part they replace for the clunking ISS on the Impalas.
    2000-2008.

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    I don't have the image, but that's not the fix for about half of them.

    There's worn out steering gear's, as well as several other fixes.

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCritical View Post
    I don't have the image, but that's not the fix for about half of them.

    There's worn out steering gear's, as well as several other fixes.
    Could you post more, specific information regarding this?

    I have a 2008 Impala LTZ and a 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT (the dealer has lubed, then "exercised", then replaced the ISS on the Grand Prix). I bought the Impala new and it has 11,200 miles. Although I am not having a steering problem, I am concerned that there will be a problem based upon all the steering issues with the W platform.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    Sis had an 03 Impala. it ended up with bad knocking from the ISS.
    Now our 07 3LT impala- with 27,500- developed a very small knock when turning etc.
    I took it to the dealer because during an oil change- I found that the quick connect fitting at the tranny had a slow leak-- not enough to drip... but enough that it was noticeable (dust sticking to it)... so I also asked them to lube the ISS.
    They went ahead and replaced the ISS. I was a little surprissed. But from other post online- it appears that now theres a new upgraded ISS? (I wonder if the new one also stops working)....
    But our Impala had been trouble free.... The small leak- wasnt trouble (yet) and the ISS had just started...
    But other wise the cars tires, brakes, engine, interior have been no problem.

    I just wanted to see what the part that they replace is...

    found this on another forum... dont know how up to date it is.
    A new TSB was issued on 3/27/08. This does include a new designed ISS. The number is 19179923. The TSB is 01-02-32-001O

    #01-02-32-001O: Clunk Felt/Noise Heard From Stering Column, Steering Gear and/or Front of Vehicle During Turnign Maneuver and/or Steering Wheel Rotation (Replace Intermediate Shaft As Directed) - (Mar 27, 2008)

    Models:2001-2004 Buick Regal
    2005-2007 Buick Allure (Canada Only), LaCrosse
    2000-2008 Chevrolet Impala
    2000-2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    1998-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue
    2004-2007 Pontiac Grand Prix

    This bulletin is being revised to provide new I-shaft part numbers for servicing Allure and LaCrosse vehicles built PRIOR to January 1, 2006. A Corrective Action Summary has been added to this bulletin for quick reference. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-02-32-001N (Section 02 -- Steering).
    Corrective Action Summary:

    Model Year
    Vehicle Line
    Corrective Action
    2001-2004
    Buick Regal
    Replace using P/N 19179922
    2005-2006
    Buick Allure/LaCrosse
    (built PRIOR to January 1, 2006)
    Replace using P/N 25829292
    2006-2007
    Buick Allure/LaCrosse
    (built AFTER to January 1, 2006)
    Replace using P/N 25828562
    2000-2005
    Chevrolet Impala
    Replace using P/N 19179923
    2006-2008
    Chevrolet Impala
    Replace using P/N 25913681
    2000-2005
    Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    Replace using P/N 19179922
    2006-2007
    Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    Replace using P/N 25913680
    1998-2002
    Oldsmobile Intrigue
    Replace using P/N 19179922
    2004-2008
    Pontiac Grand Prix
    Replace using P/N 25913680
    Condition

    Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from the front of the vehicle while driving during a turning maneuver. This condition may also be felt through the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary and the wheel is rotated from steering stop to steering stop. Some vehicles may only exhibit the noise once for every 360° of wheel rotation. On all other vehicles, this clunk noise will be noticed during low speed acceleration or deceleration, typically in light turns of the steering wheel or when applying/releasing the brakes.
    Cause

    This condition may be caused by a "slip stick" condition resulting in the clunk noise or feel through the steering wheel.
    Diagnostic Tip

    Important: This condition is commonly misdiagnosed as originating in the steering gear and has resulted in the replacement of numerous steering gears without correcting the concern.
    Attempt to duplicate the customer's concern and isolate the I-shaft by following the procedure below:
    Locate a large area (parking lot) where the vehicle can be turned in a tight circle. Turn the steering wheel to the right and/or left all the way to the steering lock, then off the steering lock a 1/4 turn. Drive the vehicle approximately 5 km/h (3 mph) in a circle, preferably over rough pavement or seams on the road surface. If a clunk is felt in the steering wheel, the MOST likely cause is the I-shaft -- not the steering gear. Continue with the correction.
    Drive the vehicle straight ahead at idle speed while applying and releasing the brake pedal. Listen/feel the steering wheel for the clunk-/noise condition.
    Correction

    DO THIS
    DON'T DO THIS
    Replace the intermediate shaft
    DO NOT lube the intermediate shaft.
    Replace the existing intermediate shaft using the service procedure found in Service Information.
    Parts Information

    Part Number
    Description
    19179922
    Shaft -- Steering Gear Coupling
    '01-'04 Buick Regal
    '00-'05 Chev Monte Carlo
    '98-'02 Olds Intrigue
    19179923
    Shaft -- Steering Gear Coupling
    '00-'05 Chev Impala
    25913680
    Shaft -- Steering Gear Coupling
    '06-'07 Chev Monte Carlo
    '04-'08 Pont Grand Prix
    25913681
    Shaft -- Steering Gear Coupling
    '06-'08 Chev Impala
    25829292
    Shaft -- Steering Gear Coupling '05-'06 Buick Allure and LaCrosse vehicles built PRIOR to January 1, 2006
    25828562
    Shaft -- Steering Gear Coupling ’06-'07 Buick Allure and LaCrosse vehicles built AFTER January 1, 2006
    Warranty Information

    For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
    Labor Operation
    Description
    Labor Time
    E7700
    Shaft, Steering Intermediate - R&R
    Use Published Labor Operation Time

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    The ISS problem is shameful. GM never seemed to care enough to fix it.

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCritical View Post
    I don't have the image, but that's not the fix for about half of them.

    There's worn out steering gear's, as well as several other fixes.
    Why are you posting this nonsense?Worn out steering gears?The I shaft is a know problem for clunks.But "worn out" steering gears?In fact I have never replaced a steering gear in a newer body style W body ever.I have replaced some steering gears in older W bodys for some leak issues,but also never for a clunk noise.The updated I shaft fixes all of the steering clunk concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ttple View Post
    The ISS problem is shameful. GM never seemed to care enough to fix it.
    I agree it is shamefull.I also have seen plenty of I shafts warrantied beyond 3/36 in many cases.So to say GM does not seem to care is not completely true.It would be nice if the could find a supplier that could make one that never clunks though.
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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    I have 2 (two) '06 Pontiac G6's.

    Both had to have steering gears before 45k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73ChevelleSS View Post
    I agree it is shamefull.I also have seen plenty of I shafts warrantied beyond 3/36 in many cases.So to say GM does not seem to care is not completely true.It would be nice if the could find a supplier that could make one that never clunks though.
    I mean fix it so that they stopped selling cars with the faulty ISS. If they stayed with the same supplier who continued to make an inferior product then shame on GM for not searching elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCritical View Post
    I have 2 (two) '06 Pontiac G6's.

    Both had to have steering gears before 45k.
    That's great.But 95% of the time a new intermediate shaft will fix a clunk noise.You made it sound like so many Impala steering gears have issues with being "worn out".In all reality Impala's have zero issues with steering gears.Intermediate shafts yes they clunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ttple View Post
    I mean fix it so that they stopped selling cars with the faulty ISS. If they stayed with the same supplier who continued to make an inferior product then shame on GM for not searching elsewhere.
    Trust me I would rather not have to crawl under a dash for a measly .5 of labor.It also is beat like a dead horse on sites like this.
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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCritical View Post
    I have 2 (two) '06 Pontiac G6's.

    Both had to have steering gears before 45k.
    those are G6's, not impalas. 2 different vehicles. and yes i have also replaced several steering racks on Z body cars, never on W body. at least for a clunk
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    Quote Originally Posted by 73ChevelleSS View Post
    Trust me I would rather not have to crawl under a dash for a measly .5 of labor.It also is beat like a dead horse on sites like this.
    You're kidding right? This is not a normal for a vehicle to do. Your job is to fix the problem. My 64 Catalina, 68 Chevelle, and 89 Malibu never had this problem with the bumping noises. IT IS A QUALITY DEFECT. Do your job and fix it. IT IS MAJOR TO US! Ever hear of customer or quality service?

    Some retraining may be needed. I am having problems right now with EFG (Enterprise Financial Group) not wanting to fix a defective steering rack and the dealer wants to charge me $200 to fix the ISS, ridiculous! EFG claims it is only slightly defective....is that like being slightly pregnant? This will be my last GM product, I finally learned don't buy American! (of course it was assembled in Canada)

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    07 Impala. ISS replaced at 17000 miles.

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    Re: Image of the Intermediate steering shaft-Impala

    This is utterly ludicrous!!!! How many times does this make that an "updated" new steering shaft has been designed? No other car company that I know of is having these issues with there cars and I can't believe it is still plaguing the later model new generation Impala and LaCrosse. They only have had about 15 years to get it right and here we all are again with another redone shaft that has to be swapped out. My 2008 Impala is out of bumper to bumper warranty so they probably won't do squat for me since I am now feeling a clunk when turning the wheel all the way to the right or left. Whats next a leaky intake manifold gasket on my 3900?

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