If you need to get keys cut by code

**GMCSonoma** · 06-02-2005, 05:32 PM

A word of advice for everyone...many states now have strict laws regarding locksmiths & dealers in code cutting keys for people. For example, if I were to cut a set of keys for someone with a VIN# when they walk up to my parts window, stating they are locked out, or they lost their only set and I do it without seeing the title & driver's license and verifying ownership that way, or without a law enforcement officer authorizing such, if that car/truck/etc gets reported stolen, I, the person that cut the key could be charged with an accessory to grand theft!

I suggest if you decide to travel, or you commute for your school or work, and you DON'T have sufficient duplicate keys, please obtain your vehicle key codes, no matter what kind of car ot truck you own...it may save you LOTS of hassles in the long run.

**Rex Raider** · 06-02-2005, 05:34 PM

Makes sense.
At my dealership, if you need an extra key made, you must show proof of ownership and identyity.
Because my car is a lease, they needed a letter from the leasing company as well, since I'm not full owner.

Envoy Fan · 06-03-2005, 12:43 PM

Bought my '03 Envoy used. How do I get key number for duplicates?

**GMCSonoma** · 06-03-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Envoy Fan

Bought my '03 Envoy used. How do I get key number for duplicates?

Go to any GM dealer, bring with you your title & driver's license, that is all it should take. Any GM dealer should be able to easily retrieve the code(s) for you. BTW, in many cases we can go back a good 15 to 18 years in code retrieval, depending on the make/model.

**GMCSonoma** · 06-04-2005, 12:51 AM

Also, to those Onstar folks, this is a good reason to keep Onstar should you ever lock your keys inside your vehicle.

mk1700 · 06-06-2005, 01:05 PM

In my dealer we only sold cut keys if the car was sold here and when the person who requires it give us a letter and an ID copy for our records.
But as a matter of fact its not against the law here in Mexico.

al_gy · 10-19-2005, 12:00 PM

Go to Rogers Chevrolet, my wife did twice......

GM PARTSMAN · 12-17-2005, 06:39 PM

And now GM requires a license plate number in order to get a key code.....

likearock00 · 01-03-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GMCSonoma

Also, to those Onstar folks, this is a good reason to keep Onstar should you ever lock your keys inside your vehicle.

Amen brother...It happened to me!! I was on a trip and stopped for gas in W Va. Went to pay for the gas and get a soda and came out with no keys...they were in the ignition. Onstar may seem like an item that "I'll never use", right up until you do need them!!

Minnow101 · 01-31-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCSonoma

Go to any GM dealer, bring with you your title & driver's license, that is all it should take. Any GM dealer should be able to easily retrieve the code(s) for you. BTW, in many cases we can go back a good 15 to 18 years in code retrieval, depending on the make/model.

I don't travel with the title. Registration yes but vehicle title - no. And I don't reccommend that people carrying the title with them. Have that stolen and the thief can dispose of your car very easily.

**GMCSonoma** · 01-31-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Minnow101

I don't travel with the title. Registration yes but vehicle title - no. And I don't reccommend that people carrying the title with them. Have that stolen and the thief can dispose of your car very easily.

Correct...all the more reason to have an extra key when travelling...

Mercedes007 · 02-15-2007, 11:06 PM

How much does a extra key cost? it may get useful sometime......but when?

Ed_S · 04-03-2007, 06:28 PM

Hi All,
New to this forum

I googled this forum and another. I posted a message on the other forum yesterday and did not get a reply yet

Seems like this one is more active

Question about keys;
I bought a used in mint condition 2005 Uplander (15602 kms) several months ago and was wondering if that model was supposed to have a master key?
The two keys that came with it looks identical.
There was no 2005 manual in it so they gave me a 2006 manual saying it is 99% the same word for word. But I noticed that in the 2006 manual it mentioned something about a pass key III . Is that only in the 2006 models and up?
I am going to check with the local dealer here for an extra key now though.

Thanks in advance
Ed

**shadams** · 04-03-2007, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed_S

Hi All,
New to this forum

I googled this forum and another. I posted a message on the other forum yesterday and did not get a reply yet

Seems like this one is more active

Question about keys;
I bought a used in mint condition 2005 Uplander (15602 kms) several months ago and was wondering if that model was supposed to have a master key?
The two keys that came with it looks identical.
There was no 2005 manual in it so they gave me a 2006 manual saying it is 99% the same word for word. But I noticed that in the 2006 manual it mentioned something about a pass key III . Is that only in the 2006 models and up?
I am going to check with the local dealer here for an extra key now though.

Thanks in advance
Ed

By master key they mean an original. Some of the older Buick's had a valet key that only started the vehicle and opened the door but not glove box or trunk. Passkey III is the security system they have had on GM vehicles for sometime now. A key could run you a pretty penny though.

PASS-Key® III Operation

Your vehicle is equipped with the PASS-Key® III (Personalized Automotive Security System) theft-deterrent system. PASS-Key® III is a passive theft deterrent system.

The system is automatically armed when the key is removed from the ignition.

You do not have to manually arm or disarm the system.

The security light will come on if there is a problem with arming or disarming the theft-deterrent system.

When the PASS-Key® III system senses that someone is using the wrong key, it shuts down the vehicle's starter and fuel systems. The starter will not work and fuel will stop being delivered to the engine. Anyone using a trial-and-error method to start the vehicle will be discouraged because of the high number of electrical key codes.

If the engine does not start and the security message comes on, there may be a problem with your theft-deterrent system. Turn the ignition off and try again.

If the engine still does not start, and the key appears to be undamaged, try another ignition key. If the engine still does not start with the other key, your vehicle needs service. If your vehicle does start, the first key may be faulty. See your dealer/retailer or a locksmith who can service the PASS-Key® III to have a new key made.

It is possible for the PASS-Key® III decoder to learn the transponder value of a new or replacement key. Up to 10 keys may be programmed for the vehicle. This procedure is for learning additional keys only. If all the currently programmed keys are lost or do not operate, you must see your dealer/retailer or a locksmith who can service PASS-Key® III to have keys made and programmed to the system.

See your dealer/retailer or a locksmith who can service PASS-Key® III to get a new key blank that is cut exactly as the ignition key that operates the system.

To program the new key:

Verify the new key has PK3 stamped on it.
Insert the original, already programmed key into the ignition lock cylinder and start the engine. If the engine will not start, see your dealer/retailer for service.
After the engine has started, turn the key to LOCK/OFF and remove the key.
For vehicles first sold in Canada, repeat step 2 with a different, already programmed, key before proceeding to step 4.

Insert the key to be programmed and turn it to ON/RUN within 10 seconds of removing the previous key.
The security message will turn off once the key has been programmed. It may not be apparent that the security message went on due to how quickly the key is programmed.

Repeat Steps 1 through 4 if additional keys are to be programmed.
If you are ever driving and the security message comes on and stays on, you will be able to restart your engine if you turn it off. Your PASS-Key® III system, however, is not working properly and must be serviced by your dealer/retailer. Your vehicle is not protected by the PASS-Key® III system at this time.

If you lose or damage a PASS-Key® III key, see your dealer/retailer or a locksmith who can service PASS-Key® III to have a new key made.

Do not leave the key or device that disarms or deactivates the theft deterrent system in the vehicle.

Ed_S · 04-03-2007, 06:47 PM

Wow thanks for the prompt reply

I understand now.

Ed

06-02-2005, 05:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
GMCSonoma GMI Fixed Ops Contributor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coronado, 92118 Posts: 8,934	If you need to get keys cut by code A word of advice for everyone...many states now have strict laws regarding locksmiths & dealers in code cutting keys for people. For example, if I were to cut a set of keys for someone with a VIN# when they walk up to my parts window, stating they are locked out, or they lost their only set and I do it without seeing the title & driver's license and verifying ownership that way, or without a law enforcement officer authorizing such, if that car/truck/etc gets reported stolen, I, the person that cut the key could be charged with an accessory to grand theft! I suggest if you decide to travel, or you commute for your school or work, and you DON'T have sufficient duplicate keys, please obtain your vehicle key codes, no matter what kind of car ot truck you own...it may save you LOTS of hassles in the long run. __________________ certified GM Dealer Parts Manager since 1994 GM Dealer Parts employee since 1987 AMC-Jeep-Renault Dealer Parts employee 1987-90 holder of many GM accredations, too numerous to list ================================================== ==============================

06-02-2005, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rex Raider Administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Drives: 2009 Camry Hybrid (company car) Posts: 11,782	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code Makes sense. At my dealership, if you need an extra key made, you must show proof of ownership and identyity. Because my car is a lease, they needed a letter from the leasing company as well, since I'm not full owner. __________________ Sure, I drive a Toyota, but at least I don't have to pay for it.

06-03-2005, 12:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Envoy Fan 2.5L Iron Duke Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati Dayton Ohio area Drives: 2005 GMC Envoy Denali (SWB) Posts: 29	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code Bought my '03 Envoy used. How do I get key number for duplicates?

06-04-2005, 12:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
GMCSonoma GMI Fixed Ops Contributor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coronado, 92118 Posts: 8,934	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code Also, to those Onstar folks, this is a good reason to keep Onstar should you ever lock your keys inside your vehicle. __________________ certified GM Dealer Parts Manager since 1994 GM Dealer Parts employee since 1987 AMC-Jeep-Renault Dealer Parts employee 1987-90 holder of many GM accredations, too numerous to list ================================================== ==============================

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mk1700 3.6 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Guadalajara, Mexico Drives: 2002 Opel Astra 1.8L Posts: 1,241	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code In my dealer we only sold cut keys if the car was sold here and when the person who requires it give us a letter and an ID copy for our records. But as a matter of fact its not against the law here in Mexico. __________________

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10-19-2005, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
al_gy 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: metro area Drives: slow shuffle Posts: 232	Re: If you need to get keys cut wrong Go to Rogers Chevrolet, my wife did twice......

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Mercedes007 2.5L Iron Duke Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code How much does a extra key cost? it may get useful sometime......but when?

04-03-2007, 06:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ed_S Walking Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code Hi All, New to this forum I googled this forum and another. I posted a message on the other forum yesterday and did not get a reply yet Seems like this one is more active Question about keys; I bought a used in mint condition 2005 Uplander (15602 kms) several months ago and was wondering if that model was supposed to have a master key? The two keys that came with it looks identical. There was no 2005 manual in it so they gave me a 2006 manual saying it is 99% the same word for word. But I noticed that in the 2006 manual it mentioned something about a pass key III . Is that only in the 2006 models and up? I am going to check with the local dealer here for an extra key now though. Thanks in advance Ed

04-03-2007, 06:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ed_S Walking Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	Re: If you need to get keys cut by code Wow thanks for the prompt reply I understand now. Ed

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