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Old 05-14-2008, 05:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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WVO is what again? I must have missed that...
Waste Vegetable Oil. Diesels will run on free, used cooking oil after a bit of filtration.

Great find, lio45! The illusive GMT-400 K1500 ECSB Z71 is one of my dream trucks! My dad's '94 Suburban was the same color (Light Autumnwood) and I always liked it, especially when it had the polished billet wheels on it.

I thought you had given up WVO forever?
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Waste Vegetable Oil. Diesels will run on free, used cooking oil after a bit of filtration.

Great find, lio45! The illusive GMT-400 K1500 ECSB Z71 is one of my dream trucks! My dad's '94 Suburban was the same color (Light Autumnwood) and I always liked it, especially when it had the polished billet wheels on it.

I thought you had given up WVO forever?
I never said "forever".

I just said that the hassle of gathering/filtering oil wasn't worth it...... back then.

Now, a few things are different.

1) I need a truck way more than I used to, so as of late I found myself using that gas hog F150 pretty often;

2) My amateur mechanic longtime buddy, who, in his free time, relentlessly kept working on a way to make gathering/filtering more efficient and automated, has just shown me his "completed" gathering trailer (it's going to be a breeze now);

3) The same guy has just informed me his new sister in law is working at the main cafeteria of our city's largest university (10,000+ students). They make a lot of fries. She's giving us all the oil we want;

4) Gas is (proportionally) way more expensive than it was back when I decided to trade my Golf for a Civic.



BTW, thanks for the official color name...

FWIW, if you like them that much, and are serious about running on WVO... stop looking for a Benz and set your sights on a diesel GMT400! They ought to be plentiful in Texas... if not by %, at least by sheer number (since there are so many trucks on the roads).
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Perhaps I should have noted that your neighborhood, rather than all of Canada, is very neat, clean, and tidy.
Thanks! Actually, it's not even that neat/clean/tidy. I'd say pretty average. Of course compared to some areas of New Orleans it might look quite clean...
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Hey lio,

Sweet new-to-you truck ... CONGRATULATIONS .



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Old 05-15-2008, 04:22 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I never said "forever".

I just said that the hassle of gathering/filtering oil wasn't worth it...... back then.

Now, a few things are different.

1) I need a truck way more than I used to, so as of late I found myself using that gas hog F150 pretty often;

2) My amateur mechanic longtime buddy, who, in his free time, relentlessly kept working on a way to make gathering/filtering more efficient and automated, has just shown me his "completed" gathering trailer (it's going to be a breeze now);

3) The same guy has just informed me his new sister in law is working at the main cafeteria of our city's largest university (10,000+ students). They make a lot of fries. She's giving us all the oil we want;

4) Gas is (proportionally) way more expensive than it was back when I decided to trade my Golf for a Civic.
Well, it's nice to hear that you're back at it again.

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FWIW, if you like them that much, and are serious about running on WVO... stop looking for a Benz and set your sights on a diesel GMT400! They ought to be plentiful in Texas... if not by %, at least by sheer number (since there are so many trucks on the roads).
The half-ton diesels are just as hard to find here as they are anywhere else. The only real advantage the 6.5L offered over the 350 was fuel economy, but in a world of cheap gas that wasn't enough to get people to pay extra for the diesel. The tow ratings were actually lower on diesel models than on gas models, so that didn't help the diesel's case either. Actually, even on three-quarter an one-ton models most buyers chose either the 350 or 454 over the 6.5L.

From what I've seen, pretty much all of the diesels that actually did sell were used as work trucks and are now in need of restoration.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The half-ton diesels are just as hard to find here as they are anywhere else. The only real advantage the 6.5L offered over the 350 was fuel economy, but in a world of cheap gas that wasn't enough to get people to pay extra for the diesel. The tow ratings were actually lower on diesel models than on gas models, so that didn't help the diesel's case either. Actually, even on three-quarter an one-ton models most buyers chose either the 350 or 454 over the 6.5L.
Makes sense... besides, the gas engines are cheaper to repair, and the SBC is a tried and true reliable powerplant. I would totally understand not checking the 6.5TD option box back when gas was dirt cheap.

BTW, if you want me to help you out with anything re: running on WVO... just ask.
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So far, I've averaged ~18 MPG.

City only, San Francisco-style. (Very hilly.)

I typically get the worst MPG ever on fuel tanks spent city driving in my hometown, so I'm curious to see how much I'll get on flat Midwest highways with the cruise set at ~65 and engine purring around 1,500 RPM.

Anyone's ever crossed the US-Canada border with a truck box full of filtered waste cooking oil?
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Can't say that I have lol.

Be aware though, in the US it is technically illegal for restaurants to give their grease off (By law it has to be picked up, and disposed of properly, not through bio diesel though), so, getting across the border may be interesting if any of the border patrol actually know that.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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So far, I've averaged ~18 MPG.

City only, San Francisco-style. (Very hilly.)

I typically get the worst MPG ever on fuel tanks spent city driving in my hometown, so I'm curious to see how much I'll get on flat Midwest highways with the cruise set at ~65 and engine purring around 1,500 RPM.

Anyone's ever crossed the US-Canada border with a truck box full of filtered waste cooking oil?
If you are crossing with a box full of waste oil this could be a problem

If you are crossing with a box filled with a fuel tank containing your fuel this should not be So just make sure you have a line going to it
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If you are crossing with a box full of waste oil this could be a problem

If you are crossing with a box filled with a fuel tank containing your fuel this should not be So just make sure you have a line going to it
That's what I'm thinking too, but they also take a peek into your vehicle, and they might notice weird gauges and transparent fuel lines in there. And a french fries smell.

I suppose they won't bother (since my truck is licensed here, that's Quebec DMV business, not customs)...
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so, getting across the border may be interesting if any of the border patrol actually know that.
OK, you're talking about the other border.

There's no "border patrol" here. Just US Customs guys who ask you where you're going before letting you through.

They sometimes look at what you're carrying these days, though... which is why, as was suggested, I should have that oil in a tank, not in loose transparent ex-washer-fluid gallons.
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Bring your chastity belt, terrorist!
Look, I'll be contributing to helping the US reduce its consumption of imported oil... so letting me cross with loads of WVO is actually an ANTI-terrorist measure!

Hopefully they'll buy into my logic
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:01 PM   #30 (permalink)
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OK, you're talking about the other border.

There's no "border patrol" here. Just US Customs guys who ask you where you're going before letting you through.

They sometimes look at what you're carrying these days, though... which is why, as was suggested, I should have that oil in a tank, not in loose transparent ex-washer-fluid gallons.
I know I cross the border every week or so

Maybe one problem you will run into is having the tank fly out of the back once you hit some of those bumps on the Autoroute 55!

Just mention it is the french fry oil the truck is running on, talk "friendly" and probably you'll have no problem, ideally you'll be there for 20 minutes explaining the system to the interested border guard who wishes he had such a thing on his truck
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