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**Ming** · 03-12-2004, 08:10 PM

The excitement NEVER ENDS!

**BigAls87Z28** · 03-12-2004, 08:38 PM

IT NEVER ENDS?!?!?!

wow, back when the 3.8 was new...

sounds like a strong little car? RWD? I never heard of the starfire? Sounds like a RWD car with the torque arm set up.
Would make one sweet project car!! B)
That car probably weighs like what..2900lbs?
2dr, 2 seater with a 500hp supercharged small block... im down.

**nsap** · 03-12-2004, 08:41 PM

:drevil: :flush: That is ugly!!!

Never ends.... The excitement of that car may not end, but the excitement of the brands itself is! :lol:

**Rex Raider** · 03-12-2004, 08:46 PM

Not GM, but still fun. People were worried about reputation even back then.

**Rex Raider** · 03-12-2004, 08:47 PM

Anyone have a translator?

Is this funny? Is it anything?

**Ming** · 03-12-2004, 08:58 PM

Um, is that a good thing...?

**Ming** · 03-12-2004, 10:13 PM

jro4566 · 03-12-2004, 10:23 PM

Hmm...that Citation probably fell apart after the guy leaned on it... :lol:

**Ming** · 03-19-2004, 11:11 AM

To the question nobody asked! :lol:

**paul8488** · 03-19-2004, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rex Raider@Mar 13 2004, 01:47 AM
Anyone have a translator?

Is this funny? Is it anything?

directly translated (using an online translator) i got:

"progressive construction, careful präezisionsarbeit and completed shaping made the opel car in the whole world popular."

"präezision" means precision, but "sarbeit" doesn't appear to mean anything on its own. but at least we get the idea now!

oh, and "Opel der Zuverlässige" means "opel the reliable one"!

MelvinJ · 03-19-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ming@Mar 13 2004, 01:10 AM

The excitement NEVER ENDS!

This was Oldsmobiles version of the Monza, built from 1975-1980. In 1978-1979, Chevy's 305 was available with an automatic or 4-speed manual. Fairly zippy stuff in it's day.

You are right about the torque arm rear suspension, and road tests pegged it as the best behaved live-axle you could get in an American car.

With the V8, they weighed about 3200 lbs., and were restricted to 13-inch wheels from the factory.

GroundedZ · 03-26-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Ming@Mar 13 2004, 03:13 AM

Oh - i just want to whip out a gun and just start shooting everything having read that.

**Ming** · 04-12-2004, 12:34 PM

"you'll get more than any other car in its class"

In those days, Saab could make this claim without the GM Asterisk.

The one that says "not including other GM vehicles"

:P

leadfoot85 · 04-12-2004, 05:35 PM

STOP THE MADNESS!! :rudolph: :plasma:

These types like that Sunbird/Monza/Starfire make was just horrible!

I had a 1980 sunbird similar in make to that Starfire. Dang thing nearly shook itself apart tryin' to top-out at a whopping 85mph...going downhill! Fun for a time...but never really reliable nor was I proud to have driven it. Considering most of my friends were driving really good cars back in the HS days. :P

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