Honda Accord

[91 s-10baja]

Originally Posted by drew630

I thought import drivers were suppose to be smart....

He is not as think as you dumb he is.

[W.A.F.U.]

Originally Posted by CaymanS

As far as I'm concerned, a member should be able to brag about cars from any brands. Also, it's funny how you guys cannot tolerate import cars being praised at such an immature degree. That means laying off with the scrutinizing of every error Tony makes with his statements for one. I say we should welcome reviews like this because we have a broader base of opinions that is not completely supporting GM, despite the forum's namesake.

Hold on there sunshine, this is not a GMI exclusive thing. If I went and posted his exact message about a Malibu at Toyotanation or Temple of Vtec, I'd get the same or worse responses from there.

This "broader base of opinions" you speak of does nothing but create controversy and illwill. Most import owners (not you) that post here do so with only the objective of getting others riled up at their posts.

Between all the UAW members signing up and all these import people posting here, GMI has become almost hostile. Name calling and fighting seem to be the norm now.

[CaymanS]

Originally Posted by W.A.F.U.

Hold on there sunshine, this is not a GMI exclusive thing. If I went and posted his exact message about a Malibu at Toyotanation or Temple of Vtec, I'd get the same or worse responses from there.

This "broader base of opinions" you speak of does nothing but create controversy and illwill. Most import owners (not you) that post here do so with only the objective of getting others riled up at their posts.

Between all the UAW members signing up and all these import people posting here, GMI has become almost hostile. Name calling and fighting seem to be the norm now.

While Tony's statements may sound uneducated and extreme, they are unfortunately (for GM) the testimonials of the majority of car consumers in the US regarding American cars and Japanese cars. One of his statements, "To me, I wouldn't drive a GM at all", should have been toned down at his discretion. However, his following statement,
"You guys need to give them ideas and show them their mistakes. That's what GM will see and improve in their designs. Improvements will be done only if you can show their mistakes. is an excellent advice to many of the die-hard GM fanboys that never acknowledge import cars. His statements give us a good look at what the majority of America sees in import cars, and thus, I believe we shouldn't chastise him as much. From some of his better statements, we can learn from them for the betterment of American cars. I am not, in any way, defending Tony totally though.

I never stated that blind fanboyism exists exclusively in GMI. Though I rarely browse ToyotaNation, I know exactly what goes on at TOV and there are just as many Honda worshippers as there are GM ones here. But, what exactly is your point? Do they justify senseless fanboyism for GMI? I think not. Fortunately, MOSTLY all moderators and admins here have done a commendable job in banning some of those GM culprits here. I really just I hope I am not labeled as the foe in this discussion.

[AMERICA 123]

Have you even taken a superficial look at the complaints on the 2008 Accord ???

You got about 3 major safety related recalls of indeterminable size brewing on that one - if they don't get out in front - and myriad teething problems as well.

No joke, this appears to rank amongst Honda's second tier - in terms of worst and roughest new vehicle launches.

Surprising - as is how they're handling long time Honda owners with a legitimate beef.

None of GM's 2008 offerings have that kind of b**ch list.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by CaymanS

While Tony's statements may sound uneducated and extreme, they are unfortunately (for GM) the testimonials of the majority of car consumers in the US regarding American cars and Japanese cars. One of his statements, "To me, I wouldn't drive a GM at all", should have been toned down at his discretion. However, his following statement,
"You guys need to give them ideas and show them their mistakes. That's what GM will see and improve in their designs. Improvements will be done only if you can show their mistakes. is an excellent advice to many of the die-hard GM fanboys that never acknowledge import cars. His statements give us a good look at what the majority of America sees in import cars, and thus, I believe we shouldn't chastise him as much. From some of his better statements, we can learn from them for the betterment of American cars.

True, but he blatantly ignored what GM did do right. For example, he criticized GM's engines, saying something about how they were too loud, when that's obviously a false statement. Everyone here knows that GM does stupid stuff all the time, and yeah, it pisses us all off. But what makes me even angrier is when GM actually does something right, but people like Tony ignore it and try to justify their purchase of an import on a GM website.

Do I think the accord's a nice car? Yeah, with the exception of that stupid character line. Do I think it's the best car in the market? Absolutely not.

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by tony209

91 s-10baja,
Your GM wouldn't move to any better spot in the future if the shade is still over some of yours. You should put a question why the big trees are falling a part.

Vette Dude,
There are many DNA drivers and PD don't really like GM because they don't work right. I hope there will be a big change with GM in the future. I've seen there are many cars from the county are Toyota now.

What? That was the most confusing post ever. I don't even know what you said to me!

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Do I think the accord's a nice car? Yeah, with the exception of that stupid character line.

I'll second that. I hate that character line!

[tony209]

solman98,
I don't know about the website you have visited, but most of the county vehicles I've seen, they always have so many problems compare with the Asian cars. This is real. At the county repair shop, I asked many dudes about which car should I get for my own, they always told me to get a Toyota or a Honda. Some even told me to get a VW. They just told me don't buy an American car. The dude at my work has just bought a new Toyota. He didn't like me to mention about an American car to him. Therefore, I told him about the Ford Explorer I had so many problems with, he told me that what I had was a friday car.

SAngelo,
I had a test drive on each of those. About the Malibu, I don't like the look of the body, and the Aura, the body seem to be too small compare with the Honda. Its suspension is not very stable. Also, I don't like those features GM offers with the car. The Honda seems to be a perfect car for me on the shape and the features with the options come with it.

CaymanS,
I understand how you feel. I may make mistakes for what I think, and I am sorry if I hurt your feeling. But there are many problems I think the big three automobiles need to fix on those cars. Do you agree? I may sound uneducated, that's why I picked up the wrong vehicle in the past (the Ford Explorer). If GM improves in its mistakes, I would come back to buy its vehicles again.

'Vette Dude,
What don't you understand?

For everyone who read my posts: If you think I offend you or GMC, I wouldn't come into this website to write a post. I just want GMC to change its idea in automobile designs.
Do you think a big automobile manufacture should make better cars than a small one?

I wish everyone have a happy new year!

[FenwickHockey65]

I don't know what county you live in or what state, but all government vehicles here in Ohio are GM, Ford, or Dodge.

And I'll tell you what's real. JD Power and Associates Best Midsize Sedan in Initial Quality: Not the camry. Not your accord. Chevy Malibu.

Your Explorer was most likely a lemon. It happens. Even with toyota.

So you didn't like the look of the Malibu, yet you found the accord's gouged-in, off-center character line appealing? Yeowtch. I'm glad there aren't more people like you buying cars.

And in all honesty, every time someone unfairly criticizes a GM vehicle, it offends me. My dad built these cars for 30 years. My dad did NOT build bad products.

Our designs are perfectly fine, thank you very much. Try telling honda about changing designs, the new pilot and ridgeline look like utter crap.

And for the record, the name of the company is GM. The name of the division is GMC. Get it right.

[AMERICA 123]

Well look at that.

A song for Tony - and his Accord.

Tears of a Clown

Now if there's a smile on my face
It's only there trying to fool the public
But when it comes down to fooling you
Now honey that's quite a different subject

But don't let my glad expression
Give you the wrong impression
Cos really I'm sad, Oh I'm sadder than sad
Well I'm hurt and I want you so bad
Like a clown I appear to be glad ooh yeah

CHORUS:

Well they're some sad things known to man
But ain't too much sadder than
The tears of a clown when there's noone around
Oh yeah, baby baby, oh yeah baby baby

Now if I appear to be carefree
It's only to camouflage my sadness
And honey to shield my pride I try
To cover this hurt with a show of gladness
But don't let my show convince you
That I've been happy since you
Cos I need to go, oh I need you so
Look I'm hurt and I want you to know
For others I put on a show ...CHORUS

Just like Pagliacci did
I try to keep my surface hid
Smiling in the crowd I try
But in a lonely room I cry
The tears of a clown
When there's noone around, oh yeah, baby baby
Now if there's a smile on my face
Don't let my glad expression
Give you the wrong impression
Don't let this smile I wear
Make you think that I don't care
Cos really I'm sad...

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by tony209

For everyone who read my posts: If you think I offend you or GMC, I wouldn't come into this website to write a post. I just want GMC to change its idea in automobile designs.
Do you think a big automobile manufacture should make better cars than a small one?

Dude, its GM. You're on GM Inside News. GMC is a division of GM!

[CaymanS]

Originally Posted by tony209

solman98,
CaymanS,
I understand how you feel. I may make mistakes for what I think, and I am sorry if I hurt your feeling. But there are many problems I think the big three automobiles need to fix on those cars. Do you agree? I may sound uneducated, that's why I picked up the wrong vehicle in the past (the Ford Explorer). If GM improves in its mistakes, I would come back to buy its vehicles again.
I wish everyone have a happy new year!

I don't exactly cry over erroneous or biased comments.

I realize GM has many problems to fix, but the same can be said for Honda and every other automakers as well. I'll tell you this though, Honda's record might be cleaner than GM's. However, I'm glad that GM has begun to take the necessary steps to reform itself, and it is paying off as we speak.

American cars, at least GM, have come a long way from the historically unreliable Ford Explorer. Don't tell me you've been judging GM based on that car!

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by CaymanS

I don't exactly cry over erroneous or biased comments.

American cars, at least GM, have come a long way from the historically unreliable Ford Explorer. Don't tell me you've been judging GM based on that car!

['Vette Dude]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

the new pilot and ridgeline look like utter crap.

Don't forget Element and CR-V

[GMCSonoma]

I can't believe I missed this thread....


Sounds like a bad hangover or worse!!!


I'm closing it...troll bait if there was ever.