Your ideal Chevy Lineup...

[knightfan26917]

Originally Posted by AmericanRevolution

don't worry, I've got a packet full of designs... just need to make some modifications so they fit Chevy

OK, good! Just get 'em done soon .

[avro206]

I'll just mention a few changes I would like to see happen.

Colorado/Canyon- 6 speed automatics/6 speed manula across the board.
16-17" rims on the 4X4 models. (currently they have tiny 15's with UGLY rims)

Engines: 2.8L 4cy, 3.5L 5 cly and the 4.2 275hp I6 (bring it already)
I'd do a slight makeover on the front end too.

Silverado: 6.0 availible in the 1/2 ton 365hp LS2, 4.3L put in the trash and replaced by the 4.2L I6. New interior please!! and 6 speed automatics.

Cobalt: 2 and 4 door SS with 220hp 2.2L Eco-tec. 6 speed manual or 5 speed automatics. LSD standard equipment

Cobalt RS: 2 and 4 door.177hp 2.4L Eco-tec, 5 speed manual/5speed automatic. LSD optional

Suburban: 6.0 in the 1/2 ton!! 6.6L Duramax across the board.

Dump the SSR!

Chevy Nomad--just as show car, Kappa based. 4 door---like the ION Quad coupe. Still look like a coupe but with more functionality.
2.8L HF DOHC V6 210hp--6 speed manual/5 speed auto

Nomad SS-- Turbo 2.8 HF V6 275 hp

I think Chevy should make use of the HF V6's where appropriate. Maybe not widespread but I really like the idea in the Nomad.

Corvette: 435hp 6.0---I don't like the HEMI 6.1L having more power then the base Corvette. 3 valve head too.

[gmwsag]

My 'ideal' lineup for Chevy would include practical, muscle, and everyday vehicles... Chevrolet would need a few name changes, and some more powerful engines... I'm starting with the entry level to most expensive...

Aveo (replaced in 2006 with a stronger, more flexible platform) $10K-$15K
Lt- Standard 120 hp I-4 Ecotec engine with standard power locks, power windows, air conditioning, CD/MP3 player...
LTZ- Standard 140 hp I-4 Ecotec engine...added features include more sporty look, with leather seating
SS- Standard 170 hp I-4 Ecotec engine designed to compete with Mini Cooper S...with standard SS badging, seating, banging 15" wheels

Cobalt $13K-$19K sedan, wagon, coupe, and convertible
Basically the same as the current model except...
LT & LTZ- Standard 170 hp I-4, every single feature with current model, optional navigation system
SS- GM Performance better crank it up with some 220-250 hp I-4 supercharged and refined Ecotec...better handling and suspension to make a premium ride, and as other models, available navigation system

Malibu $18K-$25K, sedan
LT- standard 170 hp I-4 Ecotec engine with standard power windows, and locks, CD/MP3/AM/FM Cassette, air conditioning standard, leather optional, rims optional, refined suspension and handling like Cobalt under the name 'BetterRide', basically a wheel and deal...loaded up for under $20K.
LTZ- standard 240 hp 3.9 Litre V-6 engine with everything on LT in addition to optional navigation system, and DVD player in the back.
Maxx LT- standard 240 hp 3.9 Litre V-6 engine with everything on LTZ, and standard DVD Player, optional navigation
SS- standard 260 hp Easton-supercharged V-6 engine going 0-60 in under 6.5 seconds, rims standard, SS badging and seats come standard, and has everything in it...including DVD & navigation and loaded for under $26K. Also available in Maxx form.

Chevelle/Camaro/Monte Carlo (I'm just using the name...not the legacy) $19K-$27K, coupe, convertible
LT- standard 240 hp V-6 Ecotec with everything in Malibu LT
LTZ- standard 260 hp V-6 with everything in Malibu LTZ
SS- standard 400 hp V-8 with SS badging and performance 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Refined suspension in 'BetterRide'...also on Convertible

Impala $22K-$26K
LT- standard 240 hp V-6 with BetterRide, and power locks, windows, air conditioning, CD/MP3/AM/FM Cassette standard, optional leather seating, optional navigation system, and leading safety.
LTZ- standard 260 hp V-6, added are standard leather, better performance and everything on LT in addition to a standard DVD player and loaded for under $25K.
Maxx LTZ- standard 260 hp V-6 with standard DVD player...everything LTZ has in it and loaded with under $25.5K
SS- standard 400 hp V-8, SS badging and performance 0-60 in under 5.5 seconds and everything on LTZ except for the engine.

SS Flagship, flagship luxury sedan at $35K
SS- 450 hp V-8 with SS badging, standard everything

SSR $40K
SSR- 450 hp V-8 with SS badging, standard everything

Corvette, $40K-$85K
Coupe, Convertible- standard 450 hp V-8 with standard everything.
Coupe, Convertible Z06- standard 550 hp V-10 superpower car headed towards Ferrari and Porsche territory but available for less than $90K at a price around $85K, making it one of the cheapest for its powerful, best-in-class engine. It has BetterRide suspension, but the performance division have built it very light, and very strong and reliable.

Trucks will come later...what do you think??

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by gmwsag

My 'ideal' lineup for Chevy would include practical, muscle, and everyday vehicles... Chevrolet would need a few name changes, and some more powerful engines... I'm starting with the entry level to most expensive...

Aveo (replaced in 2006 with a stronger, more flexible platform) $10K-$15K
Lt- Standard 120 hp I-4 Ecotec engine with standard power locks, power windows, air conditioning, CD/MP3 player...
LTZ- Standard 140 hp I-4 Ecotec engine...added features include more sporty look, with leather seating
SS- Standard 170 hp I-4 Ecotec engine designed to compete with Mini Cooper S...with standard SS badging, seating, banging 15" wheels

Cobalt $13K-$19K sedan, wagon, coupe, and convertible
Basically the same as the current model except...
LT & LTZ- Standard 170 hp I-4, every single feature with current model, optional navigation system
SS- GM Performance better crank it up with some 220-250 hp I-4 supercharged and refined Ecotec...better handling and suspension to make a premium ride, and as other models, available navigation system

Malibu $18K-$25K, sedan
LT- standard 170 hp I-4 Ecotec engine with standard power windows, and locks, CD/MP3/AM/FM Cassette, air conditioning standard, leather optional, rims optional, refined suspension and handling like Cobalt under the name 'BetterRide', basically a wheel and deal...loaded up for under $20K.
LTZ- standard 240 hp 3.9 Litre V-6 engine with everything on LT in addition to optional navigation system, and DVD player in the back.
Maxx LT- standard 240 hp 3.9 Litre V-6 engine with everything on LTZ, and standard DVD Player, optional navigation
SS- standard 260 hp Easton-supercharged V-6 engine going 0-60 in under 6.5 seconds, rims standard, SS badging and seats come standard, and has everything in it...including DVD & navigation and loaded for under $26K. Also available in Maxx form.

Chevelle/Camaro/Monte Carlo (I'm just using the name...not the legacy) $19K-$27K, coupe, convertible
LT- standard 240 hp V-6 Ecotec with everything in Malibu LT
LTZ- standard 260 hp V-6 with everything in Malibu LTZ
SS- standard 400 hp V-8 with SS badging and performance 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Refined suspension in 'BetterRide'...also on Convertible

Impala $22K-$26K
LT- standard 240 hp V-6 with BetterRide, and power locks, windows, air conditioning, CD/MP3/AM/FM Cassette standard, optional leather seating, optional navigation system, and leading safety.
LTZ- standard 260 hp V-6, added are standard leather, better performance and everything on LT in addition to a standard DVD player and loaded for under $25K.
Maxx LTZ- standard 260 hp V-6 with standard DVD player...everything LTZ has in it and loaded with under $25.5K
SS- standard 400 hp V-8, SS badging and performance 0-60 in under 5.5 seconds and everything on LTZ except for the engine.

SS Flagship, flagship luxury sedan at $35K
SS- 450 hp V-8 with SS badging, standard everything

SSR $40K
SSR- 450 hp V-8 with SS badging, standard everything

Corvette, $40K-$85K
Coupe, Convertible- standard 450 hp V-8 with standard everything.
Coupe, Convertible Z06- standard 550 hp V-10 superpower car headed towards Ferrari and Porsche territory but available for less than $90K at a price around $85K, making it one of the cheapest for its powerful, best-in-class engine. It has BetterRide suspension, but the performance division have built it very light, and very strong and reliable.

Trucks will come later...what do you think??

Looks good, with some minor changes: No SS on Aveo, as it's not targetting those who want performance, it's targetting those who want cheap, reliable, nice transportation and/or wanna have good gas mileage... also for the SS, change the name to something else, I don't wanna see a car named "SS" SS should be only a version of a car.. the SSR, "everything standard" would include infotainment center, CD/MP3/XM radio, leather heated/cooled seats, power all, etc? Also, how would the suspension be set up?

[roberto57]

I think Chevy should make the Aerovette with C6 styling and engine lineup. It should be available in AWD to compete with the Lamborghini Gallardo and Mercielago.

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by roberto57

I think Chevy should make the Aerovette with C6 styling and engine lineup. It should be available in AWD to compete with the Lamborghini Gallardo and Mercielago.

Not Chevy.. if anything, it should be either (a) Cadillac or (b) a new super-car brand... but not Chevy... that's to high for it... We don't want a Chevy that's above Cadillac... Chevy's the value brand...

[Sixty8]

Originally Posted by AmericanRevolution

Post your ideal Chevy lineup here!
Please, DONT FLAME SOMEONE if you don't like what they posted. Just give them constructive criticism... helpful feedback and debating... all that good stuff

What do I think? I think for a dude who drives an Accord you are a true grearhead and honset to goodness GM guy.

The 2005/06 GTO judge idea is something I've been preaching for a while...
And as far as having the Chevelle, Camaro and BelAir in the Chevy lineup AND a Grand Nat. for buick would be just pure heaven. Plus GM needs a few old fashoned BOF cars... a couple Caddys and a Buick at least!

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by Sixty8

What do I think? I think for a dude who drives an Accord you are a true grearhead and honset to goodness GM guy.

The 2005/06 GTO judge idea is something I've been preaching for a while...
And as far as having the Chevelle, Camaro and BelAir in the Chevy lineup AND a Grand Nat. for buick would be just pure heaven. Plus GM needs a few old fashoned BOF cars... a couple Caddys and a Buick at least!

Thanks, glad to hear that

Ya, my family's never had an American car while I've grown up, but I got GM blood in me from... I donno when, I can't remember, all I know is that I was drawing cars for GM (ok, TRYING to draw...) when I was 5-6... lol

And ya, it'd be heaven, I agree, but even if it was just a couple of those cars in Chevy's lineup and the GN in Buick's lineup that stay true to their heritage, GM would have a real fine lineup... I don't mind GM having some conservativeness, but what GM currently has (Caddy and parts on Pontaic aside, as well as a few cars here and there like the Vette) is just unacceptable... they've turned away from their tradition of making cars that everyone wants... that enthusiasts want, and enthusiasts that can't afford so $40,000-$70,000 car at that... and ones that want American steel and muscle, just import-copiers, either...

[Sixty8]

Originally Posted by AmericanRevolution

Thanks, glad to hear that
they've turned away from their tradition of making cars that everyone wants... that enthusiasts want, and enthusiasts that can't afford so $40,000-$70,000 car at that... and ones that want American steel and muscle, just import-copiers, either...

Very well said.

A well made RWD V8 powered Camaro/Chevelle in the mid $25-28K range would sell double what a bland looking cookie cutter FWD Monte Carlo does. (not raggin' on the Monte but just drawing a comparison. The Monte is a grerat car for what it it...)

I'm glad the last Nabisco executive is finally out of GM and the company is being run by Graeheads again and not a bunch of empty headed executives who want profits but want to rehash two dozen bland products every couple years wiht no soul or fun-to-dirve factor.

When Chevy goes though the type of transformation that Cadillac just went through it will be amazing what kind of products we'll be seeing.

Good luck on finding a nice 442 or other old school muclecar. I LOVE my 68. It's the most amazing and beautiful thing I've ever owned!

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by Sixty8

Very well said.

A well made RWD V8 powered Camaro/Chevelle in the mid $25-28K range would sell double what a bland looking cookie cutter FWD Monte Carlo does. (not raggin' on the Monte but just drawing a comparison. The Monte is a grerat car for what it it...)

I'm glad the last Nabisco executive is finally out of GM and the company is being run by Graeheads again and not a bunch of empty headed executives who want profits but want to rehash two dozen bland products every couple years wiht no soul or fun-to-dirve factor.

When Chevy goes though the type of transformation that Cadillac just went through it will be amazing what kind of products we'll be seeing.

Good luck on finding a nice 442 or other old school muclecar. I LOVE my 68. It's the most amazing and beautiful thing I've ever owned!

Ya, I'd love to see the kinda action Chevy took in the mid 50's all the way through '72... building the best cars for the money... style, performance, luxury all in one value-packed vehicle... all throughout their lineup... sure, have a Camry/Accord fighter, but don't make all the cars like that...

And ya, I'd really like a '72 Chevell or '68 442... either one will do fine... project car or not...

[knightfan26917]

Originally Posted by Sixty8

A well made RWD V8 powered Camaro/Chevelle in the mid $25-28K range would sell double what a bland looking cookie cutter FWD Monte Carlo does. (not raggin' on the Monte but just drawing a comparison. The Monte is a grerat car for what it it...)

*raises eyebrow*

Uh huh.....

I think a "Monte Carlo" esque RWD MC would sell double what the current monte carlo is selling.

*pauses*

But, of course, I'm biased .

Either way, GM/Chevrolet (as mentioned elsewhere) needs some excitement in their cars again to make sales/profits....

[montecarlolsus]

The biggest thing is to keep it affordable no matter if it is RWD or FWD. No more than the mid 20's MAYBE upper 20's for the V8 version. I think there is room for both a FWD and RWD coupe if they both are done and marketed right. and again not priced too high.

[knightfan26917]

I agree with your assessments, montecarlolsus. Whatever they bring out...hopefully both for both crowds...needs to be affordable....

[Sixty8]

Originally Posted by knightfan26917

*raises eyebrow*

Uh huh.....

I think a "Monte Carlo" esque RWD MC would sell double what the current monte carlo is selling.

*pauses*

But, of course, I'm biased .

Either way, GM/Chevrolet (as mentioned elsewhere) needs some excitement in their cars again to make sales/profits....

I should have explained myseelf. I know that came off the wrong way. I was not attacking the MC at ALL!

I was attacking GM's stuborn attitude of thinking ONE affordable coupe model would be okay for the Chevy lineup. I mean with a V6 & V6SC engine and FWD the Monte IS not even close to being a worthy alternative to a 2002 Caamro. What the hell are they thinking. If the Monte Was still RWD it MOST DEFINATELY wouldbe selling better! As long as they would keep it in the $22-28K range the NASCAR fans alone would carry the model to sales success.

I LOVE old school Monte's; even the '78 to '87 was a great looking car. My first classic car was ALMOST a 1972 M/C wiht a 350 and three on the column wiht a bench. I noticed it one day by my college (like 8 miles from my house) It was sold before I could get the $2500 the guy wanted together. To add insult to injury the kid who bought it lived like a 1/8 of a mile from me. To this day I know that car when it drives by just by the exhaust note. (it has a REAL lumpy cam) What a sleeper... white wiht a black vinyl top and a BENCH seat!

[knightfan26917]

Originally Posted by Sixty8

I should have explained myseelf. I know that came off the wrong way. I was not attacking the MC at ALL!

I know you weren't...no worries .

I was attacking GM's stuborn attitude of thinking ONE affordable coupe model would be okay for the Chevy lineup. I mean with a V6 & V6SC engine and FWD the Monte IS not even close to being a worthy alternative to a 2002 Caamro. What the hell are they thinking. If the Monte Was still RWD it MOST DEFINATELY wouldbe selling better! As long as they would keep it in the $22-28K range the NASCAR fans alone would carry the model to sales success.

Very much agreed here! Problem is...is Chevrolet thinking at all?

*shrugs*

Darned if I know...heh.

I LOVE old school Monte's; even the '78 to '87 was a great looking car. My first classic car was ALMOST a 1972 M/C wiht a 350 and three on the column wiht a bench. I noticed it one day by my college (like 8 miles from my house) It was sold before I could get the $2500 the guy wanted together. To add insult to injury the kid who bought it lived like a 1/8 of a mile from me. To this day I know that car when it drives by just by the exhaust note. (it has a REAL lumpy cam) What a sleeper... white wiht a black vinyl top and a BENCH seat!

He he he....I know about losing out on cars...and having them haunt you by being around your area. Ah, well....you still could buy an "old school" Monte Carlo...they are available .