Your ideal Chevy Lineup...

[AmericanRevolution]

Post your ideal Chevy lineup here!

Just figured that since people are now starting to post their lineups in my thread, I'd start one for everyone to post their lineups at, and give everyone an oppertunaty to discuss their ideas, what they like and dislike, etc. Please, DONT FLAME SOMEONE if you don't like what they posted. Just give them constructive criticism... helpful feedback and debating... all that good stuff

I think it would be pretty redundant to have two my my same posts floating around, so I'll just give a link... check mine out if you're at all confused on how to do this...
My Ideal Chevy Lineup

[AmericanRevolution]

IAMCANADIAN Lineup has been updated:
Post #6

[AmericanRevolution]

kain01 Lineup had been updated:
Post #12

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by montecarlolsus

I will be very vague since time is at a premium plus I dont want to be totally closed to ideas.

1 RWD and 1 FWD mid sized sedan to please both types.
Same with 2 coupes
The Camaro however should stay RWD. Remember it is not supposed to be practical.
The Cobalt is just fine as is.
The Aveo is just fine as is. Maybe make an adaptaion of the ecotec for it as an upgrade.
The truck are fine as is. Just normal updates to stay competetive. Try somehow though to make the Silverado ride better for everyday people. Its a bit rough with its leaf springs. I may get more specific when time permits. Actually people, look at Chevys 1982 lineup. You will notice a nice mix of the new FWD's and the old RWD's. Something on that order is what I am really thinking about. They had something in 1982 to please anybody with the exception of the low horsepower engines typical of 1982.

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[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by titaniumSS

I'll start this one off.
The Blazer should be a 6 cylinder, and have the Trailblazer as the V8 with optional AWD.
The Malibu should NOT be thrown in with a Chevelle (the chevelle has much more prestige than that), instead there should only be an Impala with a 6 cylinder engine with optional AWD, it still being a FWD car with no RWD option.
The Monte Carlo should be RWD only with a V8 stuck under the hood being similar to the object of the CTS-V, to make a quick, sporty like car but still have luxury as a large part.
Get rid of the Cavalier, no need for it as long as the Cobalt is in the line-up. Still offer the Cobalt SS Supercharged yet bump up the engine to the 2.4L and slap the SC on it to give it street credibility over the SRT4.
Keep the Avalanche the same, they look great.
The Aveo is as fuel efficient as Chevy can get without sticking in a hybrid version, so that is fine.
The Camaro should either come out, or be kept for another time, depending on whether Chevy would want to bring the Chevelle back. Of course both would be suited with 400-430 hp V8's to live up to their reputations and out do the past generations.
Keep the Colorados, but offer the Extreme package like from the S-10's, upgrade the 6 cylinders to output enough power to keep up with competing manufactors and optional V8's.
Give the Silverado a small power booster with the V8 and make the SS's a tad bit more powerful and the rest is fine.
One other thing that i think would be a good idea would to be to come out with a whole SS line and make commercials with that, and have them all actually be very good vehicles. To compare to the SVT from Ford and the SRT lineup from Dodge. Even though the SVT lineup is over except for the Stang (for now), do not make a mistake like Ford did with the SVT Focus, underpowering a car was a big mistake for coming up to late in the sport compact game to catch on. Offer the Cobalt SS, the Silverado SS,the Monte Carlo SS, the Impala SS, and (depending on which they would decide on), a Chevelle or Camaro SS. All of the cars with RWD except for the Cobalt and Impala, which would have AWD. Also, a 6 speed manual would be standard on the Cobalt SS.

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[IAMCANADIAN]

My Ideal Line Up

Cobalt:
Priced similar to the civic
LS and LT engine is the 2.4L ECOTEC L4 with 170 HP
SS is the 205 HP 2.0L ECOTEC S/C
6-Speed Manual, 4-Speed and 6-Speed Automatic

Malibu:
Priced less than Accord, Camry
3.5L 210 HP LS
3.9L 240 HP LT
3.9L 275 HP SS
6-Speed Automatic

Caprice:
Value Priced Car priced slightly higher than malibu
3.5L 220 HP LS
3.9L 240 HP LT

Impala:
5.3L 310 HP LS
6.0L 400 HP LT
7.0L 500 HP SS
Priced in the luxury level

Blazer-trailblazer name doesn't sound as good
3.5L 220 HP LS
3.9L 250 HP LT
Priced similar to equinox

Tahoe/Suburban/Silverado
5.3L 310 HP LS
6.0L 400 HP LT
7.0L 500 HP SS
Priced slightly less than current prices

Uplander
Crossover on CTS platform
3.9L 250 HP LS
3.9L TURBO 320 HP SS

Colorado
3.9L 250 HP V6
5.3L 310 HP V8

As you may have noticed I use a lot of OHV Engines thats cuz it keeps costs down so you get more value per dollar

EDITED

[RWD60]

ok, here's my try at this...

all transmissions are 6-spd , all cars have equal trq to hp, trucks have 15 more trq than hp.

Aveo: like now, maybe add 3-door and hybrid

Cobalt: delta, FWD, sedan, coupe or 5-door same price
LS: 140hp Ecotoec, 13k, manual or auto
LT: 145hp Ecotoec, 14.5k bit lux, manual or auto
LTZ: 170hp Ecotec, 16k real lux, auto only AWD opt.
SS: 220hp super. Ecotec, 20k sports, manual or auto
SS-AWD: same as SS, but 22k and AWD

Camaro: large Kappa (2+2) coupe/convertible
LS: 245hp 3.9L, 20k, auto or manual
SS: 310hp 5.3L, 25k, auto or manual
SS Z-28: 390hp 6.0L, 31k, auto or manual, more lux/canyon carver, AWD opt.
SS IROC: 410hp 6.0L, 31k, manual, mostly drag racer, least lux

Malibu: epsilon II, FWD, little bigger than camry, Maxx add 1.5k
L: 175hp ecotec, 17k, very basic, auto only
LS: 200hp 3.5L, 20k, bit nicer, manaul or auto
LT: 210hp 3.5L, 21k, more lux, auto only
LH: 245hp 3.5/hybrid, 24k, auto only, AWD std.
LTZ: 245hp 3.9L, 24k, manual or auto, AWD option

Chevelle: SWB Zeta sedan or coupe, slightly smaller than malibu but nicer
LS: 245hp 3.9L, 21k, auto or manual
LT: 250hp 3.9L, 22k, more lux, auto only
LTZ: 300hp 5.3L, 26k, auto or manual, AWD option
SS: 380hp 6.0L, 31k, auto or manual, sedan only, AWD option

Impala: LWB Zeta sedan, fullsized
LS: 245hp 3.9L, 25k, auto or manual
LH: 300hp 3.9/hybrid, 28k, auto only, AWD std.
LTZ: 320hp 5.3L, 29k, auto only, AWD opt.
SS: 400hp 6.0L, 33k, auto or manual, AWD opt.

Monte Carlo/El Camino: LWB Zeta, basically impala coupe or truck
LS: 245hp 3.9L, 26k, auto or manual
LTZ: 320hp 5.3L, 30k, auto only, AWD opt.
SS: 400hp 6.0L, 34k, auto or manual, AWD opt. El Camino only

Vette: keep as is

Colorado: same chassis, but grow a bit, 4WD same price, 1.5k for crew cab
LS: 200hp 3.5 I-5, 17k, manual only
LT: 220hp 3.5 I-5, 18k, auto or manual
LH: 265hp 3.5/hybrid, 23k, auto only, AWD (not 4WD)
Z-71: 275hp 4.2 I-6, 23k, auto or manual, off-roader
SS: 290hp 4.2 I-6, 26k, manual only, lowered, sporty, AWD opt.

Equinox: theta chassis, same body as now, AWD std.
LS: 200hp 3.5L V-6, 19k, auto or manual
LT: 210hp 3.5L V-6, 20k, auto
LH: 245hp 3.5/hybrid, 23k, auto only
LTZ: 250hp 3.9, 24k, auto or manual

Trailblazer: moves to Colorado crew chassis
LS: 275hp 4.2 I-6, 23k, auto or manual
LT: 275hp 4.2 I-6, 24k, auto only
LH: 285hp 3.5/hybrid, 26k, auto only, AWD
SS: 320hp 5.3L V-8, 31k, auto or manual, lowered, AWD opt.

Sliverado 1500: new bigger chassis, 3/4 and 1 ton also avail, crew is 2k more
L: 275hp 4.2 I-6, 25k, auto or mmanual only,, very basic work truck
LS: 320hp 5.3L, 29k, auto or manual
LH: 315hp 4.2/hybrid, 29k, auto only, AWD only
LHZ: 350hp 5.3L/hybrid, 32k, auto only AWD, most lux
Z-71: 360hp 6.0L, 33k, auot or manual, off-roader
SS: 400hp 6.0L, 36k, auto or manual, AWD opt.

Tahoe: based off 1500 ext. cab Silverado
LS: 320hp 5.3L, 32k, auto or manual
LH: 315hp 4.2/hybrid, 32k, auto only, AWD only
LHZ: 350hp 5.3L/hybrid, 35k, auto only AWD, most lux
Z-71: 360hp 6.0L, 36k, auto or manual, off-roader
SS: 400hp 6.0L, 39k, auto or manual, lowered, AWD opt.

Suburban: based off 2500 crew cab (not just long tahoe)
LS: 335hp 5.3L, 36k, auto or manual
LH: 375hp 5.3/hybrid, 39k, auto only,AWD only
LT: 375hp 6.0L, 40k, auto only
LTZ: 400hp 6.0L, 43k, auto only, most lux

Avalanche: off-roader SUT based on 1500 crew, bigger than tahoe, optional retractable rear section and 3rd row for 1.5k
LS: 335hp 5.3L, 35k, auto or manual
LT: 375hp 6.0L, 39k, auto only
Z-71: 400hp 6.0L, 42k, auto or manual


wow, that's hard!! now for pontiac, buick, saturn, GMC, saab, caddy...
i think i found a solution to the chevelle/monte issue... let me know what ya'll think

also, anyone from SC/georgia/NC/tennesse going to the SC auto show in greenville this weekend??

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by RWD60

wow, that's hard!! now for pontiac, buick, saturn, GMC, saab, caddy...
i think i found a solution to the chevelle/monte issue... let me know what ya'll think

Yes... got a few more lineups to go... and takes a while, huh?

And I like your solution I think it'd benefit Chevy and make both the Chevelle and MC followers happy to see their car in the lineup as a RWD V8 coupe...

[knightfan26917]

Originally Posted by AmericanRevolution

And I like your solution I think it'd benefit Chevy and make both the Chevelle and MC followers happy to see their car in the lineup as a RWD V8 coupe...

*raises eyebrow*

Thumbs up from me, too! Nice job, all.....

Now, if only I could design some of those vehicles .


Cort, "Mr MC" / "Mr Road Trip", 31swm/pig valve/pacemaker
'72/'6/'9/'81/'7, train/models = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/
MC Guide = http://www.chevyasylum.com/mcspotter/main.html

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by knightfan26917

*raises eyebrow*

Thumbs up from me, too! Nice job, all.....

Now, if only I could design some of those vehicles .


Cort, "Mr MC" / "Mr Road Trip", 31swm/pig valve/pacemaker
'72/'6/'9/'81/'7, train/models = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/
MC Guide = http://www.chevyasylum.com/mcspotter/main.html

lol, leave that up to me... That's where I do good at...

[knightfan26917]

Originally Posted by AmericanRevolution

lol, leave that up to me... That's where I do good at...

Hmmm...then you best start designin'.... I want pics .

[kain01]

Here would be my ideal lineup. I would add DOD to all V8's and above, and add 3 valves per cylinder to all engines feasible. AWD is the way of the future, I'd go ahead and take full advantage of my share in Subaru and steal their AWD system. Primary competitors, Toyota/Ford

Astro
axed

Avalanche
Redesign, 5.3 HO (which completely replaces other 5.3), available AWD for those non offroad types. Trims:
LS: 5.3 345/4WD/AWD/RWD/$30k
LT: 5.3 345/6.0 395/7.5 440/4WD/AWD/RWD/$33k

Aveo
Add 3-door hatchback model, redesign front fascia. Replace 1.6 with 2.0 non supercharged, 130 HP. Trims
LS: 2.0 135 HP/FWD/$8k
LT: 2.0 135 HP/FWD/more options standard/$12k
SS: 2.4 180 HP/FWD/AWD/$19k

Epica/Nomad
Four door model to replace current Malibu in Chevy lineup. Smaller than replacement Malibu, but larger than Camaro. Would include Nomad wagon model. Trims:
LS: 2.4 180 HP/FWD/$18k
LT: 3.0 205 HP/FWD/AWD/more standard options/$20k

Camaro
Kappa platform, placing it closer to original size. Placed slightly upmarket from Cobalt. Engine choices would be:
LS: 4.0 280 HP/RWD/AWD/$18.5k
Z28: 5.3 LS4 360 HP (c'mon its gotta make more HP than the regular vortec version)/RWD/AWD/$21k
SS: 6.5 475 HP/RWD/AWD/$24k

Chevelle
Zeta platform, midsize musclecar. 2 door placed in luxury sport market. Trims:
LS: 6.0 425 HP/RWD/AWD/$26k
SS: 6.5 475 HP LS5 V8 (6.5 for 396)/RWD/AWD/$28k

Cobalt
leave alone except for increase in HP. make supercharged engine availabe in sedan, alone with coupe styling only for SS sedan. Trims:
LS: 2.0 135 HP/FWD/$12.5k
LT: 2.4 180 HP/FWD/more standard stuff/$14k
SS: 2.0 SC 220 HP/AWD/$18k

Colorado
Mostly as is Trims:
LS: 2.4 180 HP/3.7 235 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/$13.5k
LT: 2.8 180 HP/3.7 235 HP/4.8 285 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/$15k
SS: 4.8 305 HP/RWD/AWD/$19k

Corvette
Leave as is except of course an increase in HP. Trims:
Base: 6.0 425 HP/RWD/AWD/$42k
Z06: 7.0 535 HP/RWD/AWD/$55k

Equinox
leave styling alone replace 3.4 with new 3.5. My 3.5 would not have been released to public with less than 240 HP. Trims:
LS: 2.4 180 HP/RWD/AWD/$18k
LT: 3.0 205 HP/3.7 235 HP/RWD/AWD/more standard options/$20k

Express
Complete redesign, following Uplanders design them as SUVan. Trims:
LS: 4.2 295 HP/5.3 345 HP/6.0 395 HP/AWD/RWD/$25k
LT: 4.2 295 HP/5.3 345 HP/6.0 395 HP/AWD/RWD/more standard options/$27k

HHR
axed

Impala
moved to full size sedan, probably on Zeta, RWD with available AWD. Trims:
LS: 4.0 280 HP/RWD/AWD/$25k
LT: 4.8 310 HP/RWD/AWD/$28k
SS: 6.0 420 HP/RWD/AWD/everything Chevy has is on this bad boy/$30k

Malibu
Zeta platform, replaces current Impala. upper midsize sedan. RWD/V8 option. Would include wagon model. Trims:
LS: 3.3 235 HP/RWD/$20k
LT: 4.0 280 HP/3.9 275 HP/RWD/AWD/more standard options/$23k
SS: 5.3 360 HP/RWD/AWD/even more standard options/$26k

Tahoe
Redesign to follow Silverado. Trims:
LS: 4.8 305 HP/5.3 345 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/$32k
LT: 4.8 305 HP/5.3 345 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/more standard options/$36k

Trailblazer
redesign to match truck appearance. EXT would remain. Trims:
LS: 4.2 295 HP/RWD/AWD/$26k
LT: 4.2 295 HP/5.3 345 HP/RWD/AWD/$28k
SS: 6.0 395HP/RWD/AWD/$30k

Silverado
completely new chassis(getting that anyway), complete style redesign for more chevy look. Trims:
LS: 4.2 295 HP/5.3 345 HP/6.0 395 HP/6.6 375 HP/7.5 440 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/$17.5k
LT: 4.2 295 HP/5.3 345 HP/6.0 395 HP/6.6 375HP/7.5 440 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/more standard options$20k
SS: 8.2 V10 525 HP/RWD/AWD/Regular cab/Ext cab/Crew cab/$40k Extremely limited production.

SSR
axed

Suburban
Extended Tahoe, front and rear fascia matching Silverado HD. Trims:
LS: 6.0 395 HP/6.6 375HP/7.5 440 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/$38k
LT: 6.0 395 HP/6.6 375 HP/7.5 440 HP/4WD/AWD/RWD/more standard options/$40k

Uplander
My 3.7 with 235 HP. Trims:
LS: 3.7 235/RWD/$23k
LT: 3.7 235 HP/3.9 275 HP/RWD/AWD/$24k

Anyway that's what I would be working to create or would have in production already, you know depending on when I control Chevrolet. I think the hardest part of this whole thing is deciding if I wanted to please the Chevelle crowd or the Monte crowd.

Edited, removed 5.0 engine much as it pains me, changed Lumina to Bel Air, until I can think of a new name altogether. Also added very competitive pricing. Not sure how feasible they are, but that is trying to sell without rebates. Removed 8.1 replaced with a 6.5 liter Vortech derived from my LS5 396. Would have more horespower and torque than current 8.1 V8.

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by knightfan26917

Hmmm...then you best start designin'.... I want pics .

don't worry, I've got a packet full of designs... just need to make some modifications so they fit Chevy

Also, a few I'm not gonna design because I've seen either (a) a chop I love and would like GM to make or (b) someone else's design they've posted that I'd love GM to make... but that only accounts for a few...

[gmsickofan]

A brand with a common design theme, not a design that keeps changing from year to year based on the whims of some marketing guys. Case in point: the HHR, Malibu Maxx, and new Monte Carlo. Other than the bowtie there is no consistent styling theme to the cars. Go to a Honda, Nissan or Toyota dealership and you see a common, dare I say "comforting" lineup of similarly designed sheetmetal.

Chevy seems like GM's place to dump all of its ideas and excess cars, not a serious brand with a serious image.

A Colorado next to a Suburban next to an SSR....its a hodge-podge of styling, and GM just can't seem to choose what theme to stick with.

[AmericanRevolution]

Originally Posted by gmsickofan

A brand with a common design theme, not a design that keeps changing from year to year based on the whims of some marketing guys. Case in point: the HHR, Malibu Maxx, and new Monte Carlo. Other than the bowtie there is no consistent styling theme to the cars. Go to a Honda, Nissan or Toyota dealership and you see a common, dare I say "comforting" lineup of similarly designed sheetmetal.

Chevy seems like GM's place to dump all of its ideas and excess cars, not a serious brand with a serious image.

A Colorado next to a Suburban next to an SSR....its a hodge-podge of styling, and GM just can't seem to choose what theme to stick with.

Though it varies, the bowtie w/ the bar across the front (some more noticable than others) is common on alotta Chevy's...