CAMARO! - The Massive Never-Ending Discussion Thread

[Ming]

I thought it would be a good thing to start a thread here where all Camaro enthusiasts can post their hopes, dreams, bitterness, rumors and whatever they are feeling / thinking.

Imagine what a massive database of Camaro lore we could accumulate here!

In this thread, the Camaro still Lives!

[Ming]

To get this started, I have some Camaro questions (I don't know the answers):

* What factories (where) produced the Camaro between 1993-2002?

* How many 35th Anniversary Camaros were produced for the 2002 model year?

* What were the strengths of the LT1 engine?

[powervette]

nice to hear something about real Chevrolets.
I am really fed up with watching all those econo-boxes with sticked Chevy badges at my local Opel dealership everyday.

[zeobandit]

If/when the Camaro comes back, hopefully it'll be able to handle the taller people. That was a major issue with the 4th gens. I'm 6'5" and needed a shoe horn to get in and out of them. Couldn't get my knees below the dash.

[1999 White C5 Coupe]

Wasn't the Camaro discontinued......

[zeobandit]

No, they still build them in a new fancy camulflage paint so no one can see them.

[IAMCANADIAN]

Originally Posted by Ming

To get this started, I have some Camaro questions (I don't know the answers):

* What factories (where) produced the Camaro between 1993-2002?

* How many 35th Anniversary Camaros were produced for the 2002 model year?

* What were the strengths of the LT1 engine?

I know the camaro was produced in Quebec, Canada for that generation, if they decide to rebulid it, GM promised that plant or the employees that it would be built there again. The only strengths of the LT1 engine I can think of is that it's torquey, good low end power, used in the corvette.

[actionjack]

Originally Posted by Ming

To get this started, I have some Camaro questions (I don't know the answers):

* What factories (where) produced the Camaro between 1993-2002?

* How many 35th Anniversary Camaros were produced for the 2002 model year?

* What were the strengths of the LT1 engine?

1.)
2002 35th Anniversary Camaro SS Limited Edition "Z4C" Build Counts


609 Convertibles with “MN6” 6-speed Manual Transmission

789 Convertibles with “MX0” Automatic Transmission

Total of 1,398 Convertibles

934 Coupes with Removable Roof Panels and “MX0” Automatic Transmission

1,037 Coupes with Removable Roof Panels and “MN6” 6-speed manual Transmission

Total of 1,971 Coupes


GRAND TOTAL OF 3,369 35TH ANNIVERSARY LIMITED EDITION CAMARO SS WITH OPTION RPO “Z4C”

3,000 TO THE UNITED STATES

369 TO CANADA





2.) St Therese which has since been torn down.


3.) One of the strengths of the LT1 is it was made of Iron and can withstand higher HP than a LS1 which is aluminum. The LS1 is good to about 700 HP approx and the LT1 with the right internals gets much higher.

I am sure others can contribute to this.

[actionjack]

2002 Camaro F-Body build counts:


A total of 41,777 Camaros were built for worldwide distribution..

8,083 were convertibles
11,191 were SSs.
13,614 were Z28 or B4C Special Service

29,034 were Automatics -- 69.5%
10,188 were 6-speeds – 24.4%
2,555 were 5-speeds – 6.1%

Colors:
#1 81U Bright Rally Red 10,329 24.7%
#2 41U Onyx Black 8,426 20.2%
#3 11U Light Pewter Metallic 5,914 14.2%
#4 13U Sebring Silver 4,907 11.7%
#5 28U Navy Blue Metallic 4,674 11.2%
#6 10U Arctic White 3,805 9.1%
#7 71U Sunset Orange Metallic 1,875 4.5%
#8 44U Monterey Maroon Metallic 1,834 4.4%
(#9) 01U (Police Two Tone) 13 0.01%
(note: B4C avail with special two-tone paint lines using existing factory colors)

Camaro SS

SS Coupe with 6-speed: 4,811 6.6% of total production
81U 1,617 33.6%
41U 1,349 28.0%
28U 482 10.0%
13U 465 9.7%
11U 403 8.4%
71U 263 5.5%
10U 232 4.8%


SS Coupe with Automatic 3,527 4.9% of total production
81U 1,443 40.9%
41U 645 18.3%
11U 307 8.7%
13U 306 8.7%
28U 297 8.4%
71U 283 8.0%
10U 246 7.0%





SS Convertible with 6-speed 1,297 1.8% of total production
81U 739 57.0%
41U 227 17.5%
28U 86 6.6%
13U 78 6.0% (5 with “Z7D” Brickyard 400 Pkg)
11U 74 5.7%
10U 52 4.0%
71U 41 3.2%
1,164 had 41T Black Conv. Top
103 had 56T Neutral Conv. Top
30 had 10T White Conv. Top


SS Convertible with Automatic 1,556 2.1% of total production
81U 975 62.7%
41U 174 11.2%
13U 141 11.2% (52 units “Z7D” Brickyard 400”
11U 88 5.7%
10U 73 4.7%
28U 59 3.8%
71U 46 3.0%

1,410 had 41T Black conv. top
110 had 56T Neutral conv. top
36 had 10T White conv. top

There were no “1LE” Camaros produced in the 2002 model year at Ste. Therese Assembly..SLP Engineering offered this option as a “second sticker” option....

Camaro B4C Special Service with Automatic Trans 583 units
41U 320 units 54.9%
10U 114 19.6%
28U 42 7.2%
13U 33 5.7%
44U 29 5.0%
11U 25 4.3%
01U (spec. 2tone) 13 2.2%
71U 1 0.2%


Camaro B4C Special Service with 6-speed 125 units

41U 62 49.6%
81U 18 14.4%
10U 14 11.2%
13U 12 9.6%
28U 8 6.4%
71U 7 5.6%
44U 2 1.6% (tie)
11U 2 1.6% (tie)




24.071 Camaros had CC1 Removable roof panels 57.6% of production

24,805 Camaros were Z28 or SS (had LS1 Engine) which is 59.4% of build.

16,972 Camaros were V-6 with the 3800 engine which is 40.6% of build

2,968 Camaros were built with NG1 Northeast Emissions (7.1%)
33,180 Camaros were built with FE9 Federal Emissions (79.4%)
5,224 Camaros were built with YF5 California Emissions (12.5)

33,580 Camaros were ordered as "Stock" orders by dealers
5,951 Camaros were ordered as "Sold" orders by dealers (customers special ordered their Camaro)
2,246 Camaros were ordered as "Fleet" by dealers (for Police, federal government, and large business/rental/concerns.)

2,412 V-6 Camaros were ordered with Y87 Package, of which 360 were “sold” orders
4,985 Camaros were ordered with the Y3F Sport Appearance package, of which 457 were “sold” orders.
443 Camaros were ordered with the Y3B SLP Rally Sport Package, of which 29 were “sold” orders.
11,191 Camaros were ordered with the “WU8” SS Performance and Appearance Package, of which 3,662 were “sold” orders – and 63 were “fleet” orders.

Total Camaro Interior Counts:
11,461 were built with 19B Ebony “Congo-Lexington”Cloth
16,276 were built with 192 Ebony “Supersoft - Sierra” Leather
3,367 were built with 193 Ebony/Pewter “Supersoft-Sierra” Anniv. Spec. Leather
3,767 were built with 522 Neutral “Supersoft - Sierra” Leather
6,754 were built with 92B Medium Gray “Congo-Lexington” Cloth
117 were built with 194 Ebony Prado Leather (Europe and Russia only)
35 were built with 524 Neutral Prado Leather (Europe and Russia only)

208 Convertibles were built with 10T white convertible top
6,924 convertibles were built with 41T black convertible roof
951 convertibles were built with 56T neutral convertible roof.


28,567 Camaros were built with “UK3” Leather wrapped steering wheel with duplicate radio controls
8,866 Camaros were built with “U1S” 12 disc remote CD changer

30,160 were built with “C49” Rear Defogger. . .only 72.2%

19,865 were built with “NW9” Traction Control.

[actionjack]

2002 Firebird F-Body build counts:


A total of 30,690 Firebirds were built for worldwide distribution..
Sold orders (ordered by customer specifically) 4,454
Fleet orders 721

5,192 were Convertible models

23,648 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels

26,391 had FE9 Federal Emissions System
2,018 had NG1 Northeast Emissions System
2,269 had YF5 California Emissions System

20,769 had the LS1 Gen III V8 Engine (67.7%)
9,921 had the L36 3800 Series V6 (32.3%)

16,837 had NW9 Traction Control (54.9%)
5,934 had U1S 12 Disc CD changer (19.3%)

14,908 had the WS6 Ram Air Package (48.6%)

1,500 had the WU6 Firehawk Package (4.9%)

2,391 had the Z15 Collector Package (7.8%)


Convertible Top Colors:

10T White 137 units
41T Black 4,455 units
56T Taupe 600 units


Total Firebird Color Breakdown:

10U White 2,918 9.5%
11U Pewter 4,302 14.0%
13U Silver 3,089 10.1%
28U Dk Blue 3,290 10.7%
41U Black 7,572 24.7%
44U Maple 867 2.8%
54U C/E Yellow 2,391 7.8%
71U S.O.M. 1,208 3.9%
81U Red 5,053 16.5%

Interior Breakdown:

19B Ebony Cloth 7,378 24.0%
192 Ebony Leath 14,832 48.3%
194 C/E Leather 2,391 7.8%
52B Taupe Cloth 1,078 3.5%
522 Taupe Leather 2,230 7.3%



FIREBIRD V6 COUPE 8,423 units (11.6% of production)

1,000 units had MM5 Manual transmission (11.9%)
7,423 units had MX0 Automatic Transmission (88.1%)

2,567 units had NW9 Traction control (30.5%)
7,375 had FE9 Emissions (87.6%)
425 had NG1 Emissions (5.0%)
619 had YF5 Emissions (7.3%)

6,573 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels (78%)

2,056 had Y87 Performance package (24.4%)

10U 982 units
11U 1,470 units
13U 1,188 units
28U 946 units
44U 415 units
41U 1,545 units
71U 372 units
81U 1,505 units


V6 Convertible 1,498 units (2.1% of production)

All had MX0 Automatic Transmission
401 had NW9 Traction Control
1,233 had FE9 Emissions
66 had NG1 Emissions
199 had YF5 Emissions

34 had 10T white conv. top
1,268 had 41T black conv. top
196 had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 289 units
11U 294 units
13U 102 units
28U 88 units
41U 114 units
44U 213 units
71U 28 units
81U 370 units



FORMULA COUPE 901 UNITS 1.2% OF PRODUCTION

409 units had MN6 6-speed transmission
492 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
473 units had NW9 Traction Control

729 had FE9 Emissions
95 had NG1 Emissions
76 had YF5 Emissions

167 had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 70 Units
11U 124 units
13U 90 units
28U 142 units
41U 244 units
44U 42 units
71U 51 units
81U 138 units



TRANS AM COUPE 3,962 5.5% OF PRODUCTION

1,591 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
2,371 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
2,732 units had NW9 Traction Control

3,345 units had FE9 Emissions
273 units had NG1 Emissions
344 units had YF5 Emissions

1,131 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 343 units
11U 408 units
13U 408 units
28U 474 units
41U 1,215 units
44U 145 units
71U 135 units
81U 834 units



TRANS AM CONVERTIBLE 998 UNITS (1.4% OF PRODUCTION)

235 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
763 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
578 units had NW9 Traction control

858 units had FE9 Emissions
71 units had NG1 Emissions
67 units had YF5 Emissions

202 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

36 units had 10T white convert. Top
777 units had 41T black convert. Top
185 units had 56T Taupe convert. Top


10U 84 units
11U 246 units
13U 58 units
28U 109 units
41U 261 units
44U 52 units
71U 26 units
81U 162 units



WS6 RAM AIR COUPES 12,212 UNITS (16.9% OF PRODUCTION)

6,828 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
5,384 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
8,115 units had NW9 Traction Control

10,601 had FE9 Emissions
833 had NG1 Emissions
775 had YF5 Emissions

1,349 units were Z15 Collector Editions

10U 986 units
11U 1,585 units
13U 1,112 units
28U 1,327 units
41U 3,630 units
54U (C/E) 1,349 units
71U 525 units
81U 1,698 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLES 2,696 UNITS (3.7% OF PRODUCTION)

1,176 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
1,520 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
1,971 units had NW9 Traction Control

2,250 had FE9 Emissions
255 had NG1 Emissions
189 had YF5 Emissions

1,042 were Z15 Collector Editions


67 units had 10T white conv. top
2,410 units had 41T Black conv. top
219 units had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 164 units
11U 175 units
13U 131 units
28U 204 units
41U 563 units
54U (C/E) 1,042 units
71U 71 units
81U 346 units



WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL


10U 454 units
11U 963 units
13U 613 units
28U 738 units
41U 2,066 units
54U 842 units
71U 304 units
81U 848 units


WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 532 units
11U 622 units
13U 499 units
28U 589 units
41U 1,564 units
54U 507 units
71U 221 units
81U 850 units

WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED

10U 56 units
11U 71 units
13U 51 units
28U 74 units
41U 221 units
54U 554 units
71U 30 units
81U 119 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 108 units
11U 104 units
13U 80 units
28U 130 units
41U 342 units
54U 488 units
71U 41 units
81U 227 units


FIREHAWK COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS

10U 60 units
11U 54 units
13U 84 units
28U 127 units
41U 348 units
71U 60 units
81U 150 units

FIREHAWK COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

10U 28 units
11U 49 units
13U 40 units
28U 76 units
41U 121 units
71U 25 units
81U 76 units

FIREHAWK CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL

10U 8 units
11U 9 units
13U 6 units
28U 23 units
41U 45 units
71U 11 units
81U 26 units


FIREHAWK CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

10U 8 units
11U 5 units
13U 1 unit
28U 17 units
41U 26 units
71U 4 units
81U 13 units

[actionjack]

Some F-Body Videos/Commercials:

4th Gen F-body




http://www.ls1fbody.com/video/hungry.mov


http://www.ls1fbody.com/video/98FirebirdSpeedZone.wmv


http://www.ls1fbody.com/video/stop-light.mov


http://www.ls1fbody.com/video/ls1power.mpg




3rd Gen F-Body:




http://www.ls1fbody.com/video/chevycamaro.mov

[actionjack]

See through of Camaro:

[actionjack]

1st Generation F-Body:

[actionjack]

LS1 engine was used in the 1997 C5 (Corvette) and then in 1998 in the F-Body:

[actionjack]

4th Gen LS1 for F-Body:


Type: 5.7L V8 LS1

Displacement: 5665cc

Compression Ratio: 10.0:1

Valve Configuration: Overhead Valves

Assembly Site:
Romulus, MI,
St. Catharines, ON

Valve Lifters: Hydraulic Roller

Firing Order: 1 - 8 - 7 - 2 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3

Bore x Stroke: 99.00 x 92.00mm

Fuel System: Sequential Fuel Injection

Horsepower:
310@5200 rpm
325@5200rpm (with WS6 Ram AIr)

Torque(lb-ft):
340@4000rpm
350@4000rpm (with WS6 Ram AIr)

Fuel Shut Off: 6200 rpm

Emissions Controls:
Catalytic Converter
Three-Way Catalyst
Air Injection Reaction
Positive Crankcase Ventilation


MATERIALS

Block: Cast Aluminum

Cylinder Head: Cast Aluminum

Intake Manifold: Composite

Exhaust Manifold: Cast Nodular Iron

Main Bearing Caps: Powder Metal

Crankshaft: Cast Iron with Undercut and Rolled Fillets

Camshaft: Hollow Steel

Connecting Rods: Powder Metal

Additional Features:
Extended Life Spark Plugs
Extended Life Coolant
Oil Level Sensor
Engine Oil Life Monitoring