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    Is it possible to make my 2003 monte carlo ss limited edition a manual? And by possible I do not mean, yes anything is possible, if you have 5,000 years and millions of dollars, I mean is it logically, and sensibly, possible? Thank you.
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    I've wondered this myself. Personally, I think it could be done (they are machines after all and you can take machines apart and rebuilt them). But no doubt it would be extremely expensive if it can be done at all
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    The 1997 Grand Prix GTP had the option of a 5 speed manual. It was a Getrag 284 which was manufactured by Muncie, low volume and a short run means your work is cut out to find one and they never came on a 3800 engine. Your other issue will be to build your own clutch pedal, but all the parts are out there you just need to find them.

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    Keep your car as is...save your money...

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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBUC View Post
    The 1997 Grand Prix GTP had the option of a 5 speed manual. It was a Getrag 284 which was manufactured by Muncie, low volume and a short run means your work is cut out to find one and they never came on a 3800 engine. Your other issue will be to build your own clutch pedal, but all the parts are out there you just need to find them.
    This has been done, I believe. If you want more info check out ImpalaForums.com I am an admin there. There are a few threads about it. Best of luck!
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Of course it won't take 5,000 years or millions of dollars.

    More like five years and $5,000 or one year and $10,000.

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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Would it be the most expensive, frustrating, and time consuming project you have ever taken on in your life only to find that you haven't gained but a couple of tenths in e.t. and the only available shifter sucks? More than likely.

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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Every model year this gets more and more impossible. The on board computers are so integrated with electronic transmissions and air/fuel sensors since the OBD II era began.

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    Re: automatic to manual?

    May be it is possible to make it manual, but it will be really an expensive one.

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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Quote Originally Posted by monteowner View Post
    Is it possible to make my 2003 monte carlo ss limited edition a manual? I mean is it logically, and sensibly, possible?
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    How did we get from an era when people put 1950's Oldsmobile engines in 1920's Fords to this point where people say you can't put a manual shift in a Chevy? Of course you can...

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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smaart Aas Saabr View Post
    How did we get from an era when people put 1950's Oldsmobile engines in 1920's Fords to this point where people say you can't put a manual shift in a Chevy? Of course you can...
    This is why not.



    It's not a matter of fitting two mechanical parts together, one way, or another. Computers make cars work now, and have for a while. You have to make all of that work together, too.
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Yeah but that isn't hard to do. If you have discrete ECM and TCM then it is obvious. If you have integrated PCM just do some programming or simulation. Computers aren't magic...

    I mean really for a PCM for example, it wants to control trans and tell engine to cut spark and such when shifting. Just change to ignore trans and never cut spark. You could probably just leave it unplugged and take out the "check gearbox" light

    Or, if not handy with hacking the machine, go clean-slate and design a custom engine control system, maybe using an off-shelf unit like Megasquirt and the original GM sensors / injectors and the like. That's really easy and you can tune the engine infinitely as well. Computers make tuning easier not harder!
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    One might be better off transplanting a 3.9/6m combo out of an '06 G6 GTP...
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    Re: automatic to manual?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzzy View Post
    This is why not.



    It's not a matter of fitting two mechanical parts together, one way, or another. Computers make cars work now, and have for a while. You have to make all of that work together, too.
    The computer is not the hard to get part, stand alone computers are available from GM, Ford , Chrysler and alot of speed shops. That is how I put a 502 with an allison in my 1972 GMC pick up. The clutch pedal and the flywheel will be hard to come by.

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