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    More GM Layoffs

    http://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-...-be-cut-again/

    This is despite GM making record profits...

    GM is certainly behind Ford and FCA in converting their plants from cars to CUVs/SUVs/Trucks. I guess that is what happens when GM's main goal is to appease Wall Street- straight out of the GM playbook of the 1980s and 1990s. Then again, I guess importing the Cruze hatchback from Mexico certainly has not helped (so much for "building them where we sell them"). GM has some serious issues at the top especially with production management.

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    Interesting, especially on the heels of GM reporting earning next week (28th). Ford reports on the 27th.
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    So easy to fix this, just bring the Buick they are making in China here, and export it to Australia and any other country they still have face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradokid View Post
    http://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-...-be-cut-again/

    This is despite GM making record profits...
    Smart move on GM's part. GM is making record profits in large part because they're now more responsive to market trends than they were in the past.
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    So easy to fix this, just bring the Buick they are making in China here, and export it to Australia and any other country they still have face
    GM's got 50% too much car production (capacity), how on earth do you think 20,000 Regal's is going to fix it?
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    GM's got 50% too much car production (capacity), how on earth do you think 20,000 Regal's is going to fix it?
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    If it was US built, they could easily move 100K a year

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    If it was US built, they could easily move 100K a year
    Agreed- Not to mention more Encores and Traxs that could be moved if there were made here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Smart move on GM's part. GM is making record profits in large part because they're now more responsive to market trends than they were in the past.
    Good for the (very) short term. However, what about the long term when the other companies are building what people want and GM is loosing sales because they did not respond to the market fast enough (like the 1980s and 1990s)? Anyone can cut capacity and lay people off to falling sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradokid View Post
    http://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-...-be-cut-again/

    This is despite GM making record profits...

    GM is certainly behind Ford and FCA in converting their plants from cars to CUVs/SUVs/Trucks. I guess that is what happens when GM's main goal is to appease Wall Street- straight out of the GM playbook of the 1980s and 1990s. Then again, I guess importing the Cruze hatchback from Mexico certainly has not helped (so much for "building them where we sell them"). GM has some serious issues at the top especially with production management.
    What does "This is despite GM making record profits..." mean? To mean it means that GM knows what they're doing to be successful, but I doubt that's what you think it means. FYI, investors and "Wall Street" are the people that own GM, so yes, GM ought to be trying to appease them.

    Are you suggesting that GM should make less profit and keep these employees on the books building cars that aren't selling well? That would be dumb.

    Or do you want GM to rob product from another facility? That's probably not very smart. And probably against the Union contracts.

    Or do you want GM to rush untested, new product to market to avoid the lay offs?

    What's your solution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradokid View Post
    Good for the (very) short term. However, what about the long term when the other companies are building what people want and GM is loosing sales because they did not respond to the market fast enough (like the 1980s and 1990s)? Anyone can cut capacity and lay people off to falling sales.
    GM sells more vehicles than anybody in the US. Where did you get your info that GM isn't building vehicles that people want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    GM sells more vehicles than anybody in the US. Where did you get your info that GM isn't building vehicles that people want?
    Also, GM's U.S. product lineup is the most extensive of any OEM. They have at least one entry in nearly every passenger car and light truck category from A segment (city car) to class 3 truck. AFAIK, GM is absent only in the minivan segment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
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    If it was US built, they could easily move 100K a year
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    Agreed- Not to mention more Encores and Traxs that could be moved if there were made here as well.
    Are there production capacity constraints for Buick Envision or for Buick Encore/Chevy Trax/Opel Mokka? It would be very unwise for GM to add production capacity in the USA (or anywhere else) for these vehicles if global demand doesn't warrant it. I'm pretty sure demand for these products is amply accommodated by existing production facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Are there production capacity constraints for Buick Envision or for Buick Encore/Chevy Trax/Opel Mokka? It would be very unwise for GM to add production capacity in the USA (or anywhere else) for these vehicles if global demand doesn't warrant it. I'm pretty sure demand for these products is amply accommodated by existing production facilities.
    Because of high demand, production of Mokka already moved from Korea to Spain a few years ago. Mokka will move on to the underutilized Eisenach facility in Germany and in exchange Spain gets the Corsa from there.

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    Our dealership sells more Encore than anything else. The Envision and LaCrosse have not been big sellers at our dealership and we have a healthy supply of Envision so please don't bring any more over here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    What does "This is despite GM making record profits..." mean? To mean it means that GM knows what they're doing to be successful, but I doubt that's what you think it means. FYI, investors and "Wall Street" are the people that own GM, so yes, GM ought to be trying to appease them.

    Are you suggesting that GM should make less profit and keep these employees on the books building cars that aren't selling well? That would be dumb.

    Or do you want GM to rob product from another facility? That's probably not very smart. And probably against the Union contracts.

    Or do you want GM to rush untested, new product to market to avoid the lay offs?

    What's your solution?



    GM sells more vehicles than anybody in the US. Where did you get your info that GM isn't building vehicles that people want?
    Wall Street is only concerned about the short term here and now. To them, if GM has to risk future long-term success for short term financial gain so be it.

    What is dumb is spending billions of dollars to have the most state of the art plants in the world only to run them at 30 to 50 percent capacity while running others so flat out there is not enough time for preventative maintenance.

    I would like to see GM move the Encore, Trax, and Envision to US facilities. The Encore is Buick's best selling vehicle and the Envision its third best. A lot of people including myself will not touch a Chinese-made car. BTW, Mary Barra herself said that GM will build where they sell.

    Regarding untested new product, the market is changing rapidly from cars to SUVs/CUVs and trucks. That means the person who now owns a Malibu or Cruze is just as likely to buy the upcoming Blazer (smaller Traverse), Equinox, or Trax as they are another car. Will GM be ready for this change? I know that FCA certainly will.

    I will come up with a production plan shortly on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
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    If it was US built, they could easily move 100K a year
    I guess since we were talking about "car" plant layoffs, I was thinking "car" production............

    Where are they going to build 100K Envision's? GM has too much "car" production, they don't have much excess on the CUV/SUV side.
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