Toyota boosts truck output

[ejfx]

Originally Posted by free_energy0

Is the hate for Toyota around here from a sense of nationalism? What is the reason for disliking them so much? (dont say boring cars, cause GM is just as guilty)

For me, I hate all asian car brands....they are party responsible for the cheesy tuner/ricer craze going on now, that did away with the Camaro/Firebird being cool in the eyes of todays punk as$ teenagers.

Originally Posted by boost

You hate Toyota yet it produced 1.44 million in North America, Thats alot of jobs.

People are so closed minded and selfish when it comes to cars....yes toyota has plants here, so doesnt GM, yes toyota has workers, GM does too. Toyota is responsible for GM down-sizing, laying off tens of thousands of workers...GM hasnt done that to toyota.

Toyota/Japan has stolen more then $5 trillion dollars of profit from North America since 1990.......

[spudglo08]

Originally Posted by free_energy0

Is the hate for Toyota around here from a sense of nationalism? What is the reason for disliking them so much? (dont say boring cars, cause GM is just as guilty)

I disslike toyota as well as most other non GM companies because GM pays my dad money and im still in school and living with my parents so if gm does bad i have to take it personaly.

[Infiniti Z350]

Originally Posted by ejfx

For me, I hate all asian car brands....they are party responsible for the cheesy tuner/ricer craze going on now, that did away with the Camaro/Firebird being cool in the eyes of todays punk as$ teenagers.



People are so closed minded and selfish when it comes to cars....yes toyota has plants here, so doesnt GM, yes toyota has workers, GM does too. Toyota is responsible for GM down-sizing, laying off tens of thousands of workers...GM hasnt done that to toyota.

Toyota/Japan has stolen more then $5 trillion dollars of profit from North America since 1990.......

Since I don't know what the deal exactly was with Toyota and GM I can't comment on that. I will say this:

I didn't see Honda, Nissan, or Toyota sponsoring tuners when the hobby first reached the mainstream. Civics happen to be popular to tune because they're one of the easiest to. You don't think the tuning craze actually is what caused the Camaro and Firebird's death, do you? There's no proof of that as far as I know. Tuning has been going on before "The Fast and the Furious". People tune American and European cars, too. Was not the Road Runner the ridiculously big wing innovator? (Though I may be wrong.)

And earning a profit conducting a legitamate business is not exactly "stealing" profits.

[2003SCT]

Here's MY issue with Toyota......

Everyone looks at their build quality and throws everything else out the window. Boring styling, poor handling, absolutley non-connected feel to the road (Camry in specific), none are particularly quick, etc....Yet people will throw everything else out the window in the name of quality AND argue that to the ground. There isn't ONE Toyota that I would buy because there's something MUCH more fun in other manufacturers lineups.


The Celica......it's like the cheap, plasticky feeling version of the cool RSX.

The Camry......sorry, give me the new SWEET Honda accord instead...I wanna drive it instead of sleep in it. Most Camrys are stripper LE's anyway(drum brakes, balloon tires, hubcaps, that cheesy fur interior cloth....and EVERYONE acts like it's some super luxury car)

The Highlander or Lexus RX....the Honda pilot has some decent handling and the SRX is **************** near a Sports car utility!

Corolla.....naw, I'll take a new SRT-4....or Civic(tons of stuff for them)...Mazdaspeed Protoge....even the new Cobalt.

And on and on..


Sorry, I guess my opinion is swayed cause I am a DRIVER...not a 40 year old lady. I guess I would want a Toyota then.


I just hate that they have done so well because of build quality alone...not because of cool product.


CHRIS

[Infiniti Z350]

Originally Posted by 2003SCT

Here's MY issue with Toyota......

Everyone looks at their build quality and throws everything else out the window. Boring styling, poor handling, absolutley non-connected feel to the road (Camry in specific), none are particularly quick, etc....Yet people will throw everything else out the window in the name of quality AND argue that to the ground. There isn't ONE Toyota that I would buy because there's something MUCH more fun in other manufacturers lineups.


The Celica......it's like the cheap, plasticky feeling version of the cool RSX.

The Camry......sorry, give me the new SWEET Honda accord instead...I wanna drive it instead of sleep in it. Most Camrys are stripper LE's anyway(drum brakes, balloon tires, hubcaps, that cheesy fur interior cloth....and EVERYONE acts like it's some super luxury car)

The Highlander or Lexus RX....the Honda pilot has some decent handling and the SRX is **************** near a Sports car utility!

Corolla.....naw, I'll take a new SRT-4....or Civic(tons of stuff for them)...Mazdaspeed Protoge....even the new Cobalt.

And on and on..


Sorry, I guess my opinion is swayed cause I am a DRIVER...not a 40 year old lady. I guess I would want a Toyota then.


I just hate that they have done so well because of build quality alone...not because of cool product.


CHRIS

What about the IS300 (and even though they are discontinued, the MR2 and the Supra)?

[driverblogger]

Go Toyota!!!

[ChevyHoosier]

Most people don't care what their car looks like or where it was built or by what company. They want to get from A to B. Some choose to get there in a Chevy, some in a Toyota. They don't care how bland there car is if it gets them where they are going. And that is just fine.

[GM_Guy81]

Originally Posted by gmsickofan

Die, Toyota, die! Sorry, I had to get that out.

Detroit needs to unify against the evil that is Toyota, before Detroit-based companies all just fade away into memory and we all work for Fujio Cho.

Ill second that.

[GM_Guy81]

Originally Posted by driverblogger

Go Toyota!!!

what? I think routing for toyota should be an immediate ban. not only do they make an incredibly array of completely uninspired vehicles, but they are the single greatest threat to the company and industry that we hold dear.

Sure they have adds saying, oh we have 6 factors, look how many jobs we make. But those are offset by the loss of jobs from Big 3 factories that were closed down because of slipping market share.

[sagethemonkeyboy]

Yea there makin plants in NORTH america but does that mean AMERICA.... no that includes mexico with cheap labor

[Innotech]

Originally Posted by free_energy0

Is the hate for Toyota around here from a sense of nationalism? What is the reason for disliking them so much? (dont say boring cars, cause GM is just as guilty)

The reason is because everyone worships them and says they are unbreakable, but the truth is that every flaw they DO have is buried beneath media bias and consumer perception versus reality. Toyota banks on it and does nothing to tell the truth. They also design some seriously ugly vehicles.

And no its not nationalistic hatred of japanese products, I own 3k worth of anime (japanese animation) and I happen to LOVE Infiniti, Nissan, Mazda, and I like Mitsubishi and Subaru. Its not an issue of where they come from but the fact that such boring and arrogant companies are on top of the much more exciting and beautiful competition.

[pagemaster]

The reason is because everyone worships them and says they are unbreakable, but the truth is that every flaw they DO have is buried beneath media bias and consumer perception versus reality

I have to disagree here. I have had many GM vehicles that were terrible because they kept breaking down. My 1996 GMC had at leat 10 repairs done before it made it to 70k. My 03 Tundra has yet (knock on wood) have a mechanical repair done after 70k. The only problem was a light bulb burn out in the heated mirror switch.

[xioix]

It Is Not Toyotas Fault That People Are Buying Their Cars And Not From The Big 3

[Gorf]

The reason I want Toyota and Honda to fail is pretty simple, GM builds cars that appeal to me, they do not. When the one I don't like wins in sales, two things happen, 1. GM has less money to build better cars that appeal to me. 2. GM in attempt to increase sales by luring people that chose Toyota last time around, makes their cars more like Toyotas. If this happens over an extended period of time I lose GM or what I liked about GM anyway. That's one main reason, the other one that's already been mentioned is that I want American products to succeed. I know some GM's are built in other countries, and some imports are built here, but the profits of foreign cars go back to the country of the company that makes them and I avoid the foreign built GMs.

[Tony's BlkGTP]

I guess I need to recheck my posting sooner after writing them. I suppose some of this talk is directed toward too. Here lies my opinion:

I definitely agree with what some of the Toyota haters have written above. Now that is not to say that I hate imports too, because that is not true at all. I enjoy Nissans and Infinitis, Mazdas, Subarus and others to some certain degree. So I think that I'm still a car fan, even for brands that aren't GM products. However, at least in my eye, Toyota has this way about it's products that it is the greatest thing since slice bread. I hate their advertising, the way they market them and all. And that includes Lexus as well. To me, all of their cars are boring appliances that are used to transport you from point A to point B in the most uneventful way possible. To me from day one, Lexus' LS has been nothing more than a copycat version of a Merceres S class. The Tundra is nothing more than a smaller version of an F150 with only one or two engine options are that are still leak and lame. Now that is way I can't stand them and will never be a fan of them anymore. I used to like Toyotas in the 80's when they were looked at as an alternative, but now they want to be greedy and slam their perceived quality crap in everyone face and it makes me sick. Some of you may disagree with my way of thinking, but that's fine. It's my opinion and I have a right to express just like anyone else.