Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

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    Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

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    Confirmed: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Transmission (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)
    May 31, 2011
    by Jens Meiners

    More isn’t always better. We’ll agree in terms of power, but respectfully pass when we’re talking about weight. Transmission gears? We’re not sure. Some recent automatics have featured seven and eight forward ratios (and ZF has even announced a nine-speed auto), but the maximum for traditional clutch-and-lever manual transmissions has been six for some time. That’s about to change, however, because we’ve confirmed from various corporate sources that Porsche will offer a seven-speed manual in the next-generation 911, a development we first reported last November.

    The point is to offer a tall, seventh gear for improved efficiency and reduced engine noise during long cruises. The shifting experience is said to be similar to that of the current six-speed manual—which we love—there’s just a bit more rowing to do, although, depending on the ratio spread, veteran Porsche drivers might also have to slightly tweak their thinking in terms of gear choice for upcoming corners. Unless something changes and the shift pattern is seriously wacky, though, we doubt anyone will get confused during hard driving, since seventh will hardly be anyone’s go-to gear for corner exit.

    As to the next 911 itself, it carries the internal 991 designation and is scheduled to debut at the Frankfurt auto show this September. It will be based on the stretched architecture of the 996/997 and offer more rear seat space and a more comfortable, luxurious interior. Vehicle stability will be improved thanks to a longer wheelbase. Future generations of the 911, however, are expected to share many components with the next-gen Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo as part of the VW Group’s highly flexible Modularer Sportbaukasten, or “modular sports architecture.” When and if this platform convergence happens, the 911 will keep its rear-engine layout, although the powerplant may nevertheless be moved forward significantly.

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

    If this actually pans out, I'm wondering if it will filter through the rest of the industry at some point?
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    Well, Corvette this time just has to make sure they are better in every conceivable way than the 911

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

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    t will be based on the stretched architecture of the 996/997 and offer more rear seat space and a more comfortable, luxurious interior. Vehicle stability will be improved thanks to a longer wheelbase. Future generations of the 911, however, are expected to share many components with the next-gen Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo as part of the VW Group’s highly flexible Modularer Sportbaukasten, or “modular sports architecture.” When and if this platform convergence happens, the 911 will keep its rear-engine layout, although the powerplant may nevertheless be moved forward significantly.
    me, it sounds like Volkswagen is polluting the brand..

    As in buy the current generation 911, because after this model, you will be getting something based on the TT and R8.. with porsche styling cues

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

    7 gears? Ehhhh.....I had a bit of a hard time adapting to a 6th gear, not sure how I can do 7th. 10 years down the like we may see 7 gears more attainable cars if the take rate is high.

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    To me, it sounds like Volkswagen is polluting the brand..

    As in buy the current generation 911, because after this model, you will be getting something based on the TT and R8.. with porsche styling cues
    Have you ever driven one, or have any knowledge of what you are talking about? The 911 will stay rear engined, but moving the engine forward will do wonders for it's stability. As is, the Camyan is pretty close to beating a 911 around a track, and with less power. Want to take a guess why? The answer starts with a "S".

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    To me, it sounds like Volkswagen is polluting the brand..

    As in buy the current generation 911, because after this model, you will be getting something based on the TT and R8.. with porsche styling cues
    Polluting the brand?

    VW and Porsche have allways had a close working relationship and have shared before even as far back as 69 and the 70's and even 80's

    Way before the Toureg and Cayenne

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    Quote Originally Posted by VS Ute 5Litre View Post
    Polluting the brand?

    VW and Porsche have allways had a close working relationship and have shared before even as far back as 69 and the 70's and even 80's

    Way before the Toureg and Cayenne
    Go back further, as in Porsche's inception.

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

    is that why the 911 looks like a beetle?

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

    A real clutch and that 60's styling. If they really wanted to get edgy, maybe change the cupholder location...

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Cluth-Pedal Kind)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    Have you ever driven one, or have any knowledge of what you are talking about? The 911 will stay rear engined, but moving the engine forward will do wonders for it's stability. As is, the Camyan is pretty close to beating a 911 around a track, and with less power. Want to take a guess why? The answer starts with a "S".
    I have not driven a 911 though one of my friends let me take out his Cayman. Nice little horse the cayman is..

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

    I've sometimes wondered why companies don't offer a "Highway Gear" on most manual transmissions, I mean on our Cobalt SS/SC we can comfortable get to normal cruising speed in 4th gear. (2nd gets me to 55 if I want it to, and quickly) but then 5th (or a 6th) could be a very tall Gear for cruising at 65-80 in the 1000 RPM range and help immensely with MPG's?

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

    Quote Originally Posted by ogg vorbis View Post
    is that why the 911 looks like a beetle?
    It's actually the other way around. The Beetle was essentially meant to be a cheaper and more affordable version of the 911 when it was first introduces in '57 or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by SS SCHGD View Post
    I've sometimes wondered why companies don't offer a "Highway Gear" on most manual transmissions, I mean on our Cobalt SS/SC we can comfortable get to normal cruising speed in 4th gear. (2nd gets me to 55 if I want it to, and quickly) but then 5th (or a 6th) could be a very tall Gear for cruising at 65-80 in the 1000 RPM range and help immensely with MPG's?
    I can't remember a car that spun near idle during freeway cruising. My car spins a little under 4k @ 70...in 6th gear. Makes passing a breeze though!

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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    It's actually the other way around. The Beetle was essentially meant to be a cheaper and more affordable version of the 911 when it was first introduces in '57 or so.



    I can't remember a car that spun near idle during freeway cruising. My car spins a little under 4k @ 70...in 6th gear. Makes passing a breeze though!
    I think a Roadmaster does like 1475 @ 70 mph, about the lowest I know of. My buddy's Miata was really high...I don't understand how those motors last that long.

    This 7 speed manual thing is awesome. I'd love to have one. I've had times where I thought it'd be nice to be turning way under 2k rpm @ 100 mph
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    Re: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Trans (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    It's actually the other way around. The Beetle was essentially meant to be a cheaper and more affordable version of the 911 when it was first introduces in '57 or so.



    I can't remember a car that spun near idle during freeway cruising. My car spins a little under 4k @ 70...in 6th gear. Makes passing a breeze though!
    The Beetle originated during the Third Reich, and was inspired by cars from Czech automaker Tatra, which had their engines in the rear, and of which Hitler was a big fan. Ferdinand Porsche engineered the original Beetle, and the 911 didn't come around until the 1960's, a derivative of the 1950's Speedsters like the one James Dean drove.

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